You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

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« Reply #240 on: June 15, 2013, 10:05:40 AM »

Quote from: ungeheuer on June 15, 2013, 05:25:57 AM

Apparently not as awesome as you might imagine.....

http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-reviews-road-tests/jeep_wrangler_unlimited_crd_review

Of course they didn't like it, it was RHD. cheeky

Seriously though, to those who have driven Wranglers and know their limitations, 90% of that article's gripes are moot. Give me a diesel and a manual transmission and BOOM!


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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #241 on: June 15, 2013, 06:12:18 PM »

Quote from: ungeheuer on June 15, 2013, 05:25:57 AM

Apparently not as awesome as you might imagine.....

http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-reviews-road-tests/jeep_wrangler_unlimited_crd_review

4 stars out of 5 isnt bad at all. Most of the criticism seems to be the styling.


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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #242 on: June 17, 2013, 03:37:23 AM »

I've been toying with the idea lately of buying a really really late model jeep/taco and turning it into a dune runner/fishing truck.....There is a beach in Mass that lets you drive on the beach at the end of the season( just in the time for when the fish start migrating back south). Short wheel base, 4x4, stick some good tires for sand on it. A place for a cooler and rods, some big lights, maybe a rack for my kayak................I'm getting ahead of myself.....hehe....


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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #243 on: June 17, 2013, 04:56:43 AM »

Quote from: JohnEE on June 17, 2013, 03:37:23 AM

diesel?


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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #244 on: June 17, 2013, 07:13:15 AM »

Quote from: DRKWNG on June 15, 2013, 10:05:40 AM

Seriously though, to those who have driven Wranglers and know their limitations, 90% of that article's gripes are moot.

Totally. They're not for everyone...

My '13 is my fourth, and I have to laugh at a lot of the reviews I've read on them.


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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #245 on: June 17, 2013, 03:07:50 PM »

Sounds like we are too stupid for small trucks (not just diesel). All the US mfgr's are dropping their small trucks.


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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #246 on: June 18, 2013, 04:29:38 AM »

Quote from: mitt on June 17, 2013, 03:07:50 PM

Sounds like we are too stupid for small trucks (not just diesel). All the US mfgr's are dropping their small trucks.

The colorado is coming back next year, it might actually give the tacoma a run for its money......though these are really midsize trucks not "small trucks" by any sense of the word.


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« Reply #247 on: June 18, 2013, 05:34:56 AM »

I read an article on that (which my no means makes me an expert, but here goes anyways). Seems how the EPA classifies vehicles leaves manufacturers out in the cold when it comes to meeting emissions for both station wagons and small pick-up trucks. Something about the area on the road surface that the vehicle takes up...


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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #248 on: June 18, 2013, 05:48:30 AM »

Quote from: Duck-Stew on June 18, 2013, 05:34:56 AM

CAFE!! You are correct, they do it by vehicle foot print. This lead to the creation of the PT cruiser, its classified as a small pick up i think haha. So they could count the PT for their Truck/SUV MPG target.


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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #249 on: June 20, 2013, 11:31:06 AM »

Quote from: mitt on June 17, 2013, 03:07:50 PM

Sounds like we are too stupid for small trucks (not just diesel). All the US mfgr's are dropping their small trucks.

Yeah well my last little pickup got like, 17-19 mpg-regular cab, manual,. haul maybe 500 lbs and stay happy, 800 it would whine and I don't think I put more in there than that.

Current ginormous extended cab long bed diesel beast gets about 15/16 and is infinitely more useable. If you NEED a truck I don't see the point of a small one. Only real advantage is parking.


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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #250 on: June 20, 2013, 12:57:31 PM »

Quote from: Timon on June 20, 2013, 11:31:06 AM

The current generation double-cab long bed Toyota HiLux with 2.5L diesel in the UK gets almost 39 MPG combined. The 3.0 version gets 36 mpg combined.

The 2.5L version gets 140 hp / 343 ft lbs torque and 0-60 in 12 seconds. It's exactly what we need in the US for a small truck. If Toyota sold this version, Ford would go bankrupt when their F150 sales tanks.

http://www.toyota.co.uk/cgi-bin/toyota/bv/generic_editorial.jsp?navRoot=toyota_1024_root&fullwidth=true&noLeftMenu=true&forceText=%3Cnone%3E&edname=CC2-Hilux-specification&zone=Zone+NG+Hilux&id=CC2-Hilux-specification

It's not a true "small truck", but it's smaller than the American-spec Toyota Tacoma.


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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #251 on: June 20, 2013, 05:28:12 PM »

Quote from: ungeheuer on June 15, 2013, 05:25:57 AM

Apparently not as awesome as you might imagine.....

http://www.carsguide.com.au/news-and-reviews/car-reviews-road-tests/jeep_wrangler_unlimited_crd_review

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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #252 on: June 20, 2013, 06:06:30 PM »

Quote from: The Mad King Pepe' on June 20, 2013, 05:28:12 PM

Aussies are just a bunch of spoiled pricks! Evil

Yup

We got more diesel "small trucks" ("ute" is the proper name) than you can poke a stick at Cool

Not just us though. Most lands on Earth have mid-sized fuel efficient diesel utes available from most manufacturers. My theory is that its because we in the rest of the world have to pay money for the fuel, whereas in the US since it's virtually given away free there's no great incentive to be frugal with it Evil


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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #253 on: June 21, 2013, 04:29:37 AM »

I remember the terrible things we did to a diesel Hilux when I was in Australia. Those are tough little trucks.

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Re: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck

« Reply #254 on: June 21, 2013, 09:31:39 AM »

Quote from: ungeheuer on June 20, 2013, 06:06:30 PM

Yep.

And the bullshit nonsense collectively known as the EPA.


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