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Author Topic: You're too stupid to... own a diesel small truck  (Read 254522 times)
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« Reply #840 on: February 04, 2016, 05:47:54 PM »
Quote from: DRKWNG on February 04, 2016, 05:43:05 PM
Lots of cash spent to federalize each chassis with each engine/transmission combination to start.
We're talking Toyota here...not Ducati.
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« Reply #841 on: February 04, 2016, 06:44:59 PM »
Quote from: DRKWNG on February 04, 2016, 05:01:23 PM
Part of the weak sales would likely come down to the fact that the American automotive industry package their vehicles like idiots.  They're only offering the diesel engines in the top trim levels, and then adding a hefty premium on top of that.  I'm not surprised at all that people aren't lining up to buy them when it turns into a $40+K truck.

It's so the rest of us can go "see?" when the people who may have wanted one since like, 2011 don't buy one.  Kiss cheeky
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« Reply #842 on: February 04, 2016, 07:00:17 PM »
Quote from: ducpainter on February 04, 2016, 05:47:54 PM
We're talking Toyota here...not Ducati.
Nissan...

And it turns out it isn't really a "small" truck.  12k towing and a ton and a quarter in the bed are pretty big specs.  The bed is only shortish, and they have a 5th wheel hitch standard.

It's like what a 3/4 ton was last century.
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« Reply #843 on: February 04, 2016, 07:45:31 PM »
Quote from: ducpainter on February 04, 2016, 05:47:54 PM
We're talking Toyota here...not Ducati.

It would be about $3K or so to add the necessary after treatment system to one of our global diesels to make it compliant.

My '16 Tacoma stickers for $38.5K as it is.
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« Reply #844 on: February 04, 2016, 11:11:14 PM »
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 04, 2016, 10:32:16 AM
It actually on a separate chassis and slightly smaller.

Current HiLux dimensions are the same as the US Taco
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« Reply #845 on: February 05, 2016, 06:28:35 AM »
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 04, 2016, 07:45:31 PM
My '16 Tacoma stickers for $38.5K as it is.

Whoa.  Just for comparison, I purchased a truck for one of my guys last week.  A '16 F250, SuperCab, 2WD, 6.2L V8 and it was $36.2K delivered.  10000# GVWR.
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« Reply #846 on: February 05, 2016, 07:35:48 AM »
Quote from: Duck-Stew on February 05, 2016, 06:28:35 AM
Whoa.  Just for comparison, I purchased a truck for one of my guys last week.  A '16 F250, SuperCab, 2WD, 6.2L V8 and it was $36.2K delivered.  10000# GVWR.

The Toyota he's driving is pretty much loaded. A run of the mill 2wd version can be had sor low 20's.
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« Reply #847 on: February 05, 2016, 07:46:27 AM »
Quote from: kopfjäger on February 05, 2016, 07:35:48 AM
The Toyota he's driving is pretty much loaded. A run of the mill 2wd version can be had sor low 20's.
...and the number he gave was sticker...who pays sticker?
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« Reply #848 on: February 05, 2016, 07:49:14 AM »
Quote from: ducpainter on February 05, 2016, 07:46:27 AM
...and the number he gave was sticker...who pays sticker?

Not really a lot of wiggle room on the Toyota.
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« Reply #849 on: February 05, 2016, 07:56:41 AM »
Quote from: kopfjäger on February 05, 2016, 07:49:14 AM
Not really a lot of wiggle room on the Toyota.


Not a 'lot' of wiggle room on cars at all anymore. The factories want all the profit, but a dealer that wants your business has ways to sweeten the deal so the delivered price is more attractive.
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« Reply #850 on: February 05, 2016, 01:06:06 PM »
Quote from: ducpainter on February 05, 2016, 07:46:27 AM
...and the number he gave was sticker...who pays sticker?

With less than a 15 day supply on a national basis, there aren't a lot of discounts being given.

Quote from: ducatiz on February 04, 2016, 11:11:14 PM
Current HiLux dimensions are the same as the US Taco





I show US dimensions as L: 5392, W: 1890, H: 1792
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« Reply #851 on: February 05, 2016, 01:26:11 PM »
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 05, 2016, 01:06:06 PM
With less than a 15 day supply on a national basis, there aren't a lot of discounts being given.

I show US dimensions as L: 5392, W: 1890, H: 1792
Dimensions for Tacoma or Hilux . . .
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« Reply #852 on: February 05, 2016, 01:40:15 PM »
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 05, 2016, 01:06:06 PM
With less than a 15 day supply on a national basis, there aren't a lot of discounts being given.

I show US dimensions as L: 5392, W: 1890, H: 1792
No price controls there eh? Kiss
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« Reply #853 on: February 05, 2016, 05:12:53 PM »
Quote from: DarkMonster620 on February 05, 2016, 01:26:11 PM
Dimensions for Tacoma or Hilux . . .

Tacoma.
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« Reply #854 on: February 05, 2016, 05:17:43 PM »
so, bit longer wider but lower . . .

I know Hilux is offered in gas, but, not offered here . . . if Tacoma was offered here as gas only, it would sell . . .95oct gas is going for 0.625/lt and diesel for 0.645/lt
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