Dual Sport Bikes

[He Man]

I need to get my hands on a stock DR650 to figure out what the stock suspension feels like.

The rear shock only has adjustable compression damping. Rebound is still slow, and Proaction says its only tuneable with the shimstacks.

I bounced teh front end around and it seems like its a linear spring in there already. Gonna have to open her up and figure out whats inside.

[Dirty Duc]

I would never do that with the Monster - go off tarmac or take a pillion along.

True, each to their own  .  Keep on smiling!

You're missing out.  Although my wife doesn't really appreciate unpaved roads...

[Estoma]

I have been kind of busy lately and not getting to the forums...

Really?  Coz this came across slightly  "mine's better than yours is"  Trollish IMO....

Hmm.  Still can't work out how boasting about my new Ride becomes deriding yours, but let's leave it there... .

Spare me 

OK.  You've been spared .

You coulda just shared that, posted up some pictures, rather than asserting superiority over the OP's choice of simple Japanese thumper.

I have not had the pleasure to lay eyes on the new Ride myself yet.  For now 'taken delivery' means that it has been unboxed, PDI'd and delivered to my home.  I will probably be back there in a week's time .

[zooom]

Estoma...in regards to Ung's reply to you, keep in mind that some may read things without the benefit of your voice tonality to temper a response in how it might have been meant, so there is a bit of a perceptive judgement you have to consider...just something to consider...

in regards to the 1190, nice machine, and I hope you have your 1st set of replacement tires on order, as those Conti's probably won't last very long...

[ungeheuer]

Very nice 

Too nice to fit my definition of "dual sport".  Maybe I'm looking for more duel and less sport 

[koko64]

I made an offer on an 88 E750 Bifaro in ELF colours! So excited!
I have the pipe, TM38s, coils, etc. Cmon man say yes!

[Estoma]

Estoma...in regards to Ung's reply to you, keep in mind that some may read things without the benefit of your voice tonality to temper a response in how it might have been meant, so there is a bit of a perceptive judgement you have to consider...just something to consider...

in regards to the 1190, nice machine, and I hope you have your 1st set of replacement tires on order, as those Conti's probably won't last very long...

Thanks for the heads-up on the Tires.

No offense taken and none intended either.  We are all passionate about our Rides, which is why you (we) take the time to ramble on about it online â€" a lot safer than in the pub anyway .  And it also helps that there is lots of water to cross between Oz and Sarfefica, in most directions for that matter .

I've been following this Forum, and its Post Wh0res, for years.  Nothing but respect for you bunch of Spaghetti Centrale-inspired two-piston Nuts.  I would probably never have joined though, had it not been for that utterly fugly 1200S.  See!  There I just managed to get myself in trouble again .

At least it shocked me into managing to lay my hands on literally the last 1100 evo in Africa .  Would have preferred a 1100S, but c'est la vie.

[Howie]

I made an offer on an 88 E750 Bifaro in ELF colours! So excited!
I have the pipe, TM38s, coils, etc. Cmon man say yes!

Congrats!  Love the twin headlights.

[ungeheuer]

....it also helps that there is lots of water to cross between Oz and Sarfefica, in most directions for that matter .

Anything I've said here, I'd say to your face.  You bring the Castle lager and I'll bring the Coopers Sparkling  

Would have preferred a 1100S, but c'est la vie.

See?

I knew you had good taste underneath it all

[Estoma]

Anything I've said here, I'd say to your face.  You bring the Castle lager and I'll bring the Coopers Sparkling  

Great.  So let's get back to where all of this started.

I cannot work out why you lot* refer to these Big Thumpers as Dual Sport Bikes.  They are Scramblers.  You might be able to ride on the road (tarmac) with them; in varying degrees of discomfort, distressing the motor and looking lost to whomever passes you (on the tarmac).  You might, in the same way, ride on a gravel road with a Streetfighter .

The 1190 Adventure I just bought is a Dual Sport Bike.  I can pack it like a Mule, add my wife as well, easily do a ton-up dressed out like that, lean it into corners almost as deep in (well not quite) as my Monster and hit any gravel road with it â€" nothing remotely suitable to Scramblers I dare say.  It's brother, the 1190 Adventure R, is an Adventure Bike.  You can drive across Africa with it, like the crow flies - in the right hands of course.  BMW sells the same two versions, the R1200GS and the R1200GS Adventure.

I will never take my Monster all over where I will the 1190.  And I will most certainly never take my Dual Sport Bike where you take your Scrambler.

Maybe I am showing my age?

*most respectfully meaning you more serious off-road trial-riding sleeping-out-in-the-sticks eating-barbequed-snakes types .

[Estoma]

My first Ride was also a Honda SS50 .  1973.

[ungeheuer]

I cannot work out why you lot* refer to these Big Thumpers as Dual Sport Bikes. 

We're just going around in circles with this now.  I've given reasons why for me my thumper is my ideal dual sport bike. I suggested that YMMV (and clearly it does).

Maybe I am showing my age?

You're showing your opinion.  Everybody has one.  Enjoy your KTM .

[Scoober1103]

It's not just peoples opinion on what bike falls into the 'Dual Sport' category but where people are willing and want to take it as well. If I had to have just one bike to ride and it had to go everywhere then it would be the smallest, lightest and most simple of all which there are very few bikes that fit this criteria! KLR, DR, NX, XT and even the earlier KTM 640 and Husqvarna TE 610 (there are probably more).

I chose the Honda NX 650 Dominator as it fit the bill for me, went everywhere I wanted it to go and still put a smile on my face! And I have owned a shed load of Honda's so a little biased. Some of the treks we have in Australia aren't suited to the big heavy multi-cylinder machines just purely because of their size and weight. Not saying you can't take one...many people do. And fuel capacity is another factor, the beauty of the above mentioned machines is you can chuck on a 25+ litre of the shelf fuel tank and that gets you a long way when your next fuel stop is a long way!

I have ridden the KTM 990 Adventure, Triumph Tiger 800 xc and while there road manners are certainly better (depending on tyres) would I go where I took my Dominator.......no. There are people out there who can ride the big Adventure bikes like a 125 as people have stated but can I....no. I had a dirt bike for that. I like the fact I could own my monster, a DR or the like and a dirt bike for less then one KTM 1190 Adventure.

Simple choice but again that is my opinion.

[the_Journeyman]

Does that make my M750 a Dual-Sport or a Scrambler?





JM

[Estoma]

Does that make my M750 a Dual-Sport or a Scrambler?

The first photo: You've got Clip-ons fitted .  I am guessing that that was as far as you needed to go to find a private dumping spot .  If not, we would need to define an entire new Bike Class to describe this application .

The second photo: Another time it seems â€" no Clip-ons fitted then.  That is as far as my Monster would veer off tarmac, ever.

It that the original Yellow?  Flovely.