New Ignitech TCIP4 In Need Of Assistance

[terse750]

In need of assistance:

I'm trying to get some info from Ignitech on this new unit from them and no response yet.

Not sure which plug from the TCIP4 unit goes to which coil?

The manual I have says (orange wire to coil 1) and (white wire to coil 2)

But which is coil 1 and which is 2?

Other than the "Horizontal" and "Vertical" terminology, what coil would be considered #1 and #2?

I see them labeled as (input for pick-up 1) and (input for pick-up 2) in the TCIP4 chart but no correlation to which is which on my bike. (2001 750 with a 2002 750 motor)

Any help?

[terse750]

I guess the true question is...
Is the front cylinder (horizontal) the #1 Or is the rear cylinder  (vertical) considered the #1 according to Ignitech?

[koko64]

On my old 900 the wires originated from common white and black sleeves for each set of connectors, but I had to guess from there. This cut the odds down. Then there are the large and small connectors to give some guidance cutting the odds down again. I used paint dots to code them once correct. That and a bit of a hunch and it worked. Getting the firing incorrect will give a mifire on start up which is quite noticable. Maybe I was lucky with the one I got.

[koko64]

Member Ducatiz knows a bit about these units. I would pm him.
Ive only tuned three units on older 900s (93-95 models), and was lucky the wiring  corresponded pretty well. Maybe later model wiring doesnt line up as easily, Im not sure.

[terse750]

On my old 900 the wires originated from common white and black sleeves for each set of connectors, but I had to guess from there. This cut the odds down. Then there are the large and small connectors to give some guidance cutting the odds down again. I used paint dots to code them once correct. That and a bit of a hunch and it worked. Getting the firing incorrect will give a mifire on start up which is quite noticable. Maybe I was lucky with the one I got.

It would only be a misfire if it's the wrong way?
So a 50/50 shot at guessing correct and I would be able to have 2 tries without burning up the TCIP4 or any other ignition parts?
I'm so ready to try and fire her up!

[koko64]

No guarantees .
The Ducati coil wires have different sized spade connectors for + & -  which stops that mistake. Shorts and voltage spikes cause  damage. That bad ignition timing can cause a backfire or a misfire, you'll know. The ignition box wires have large and small connectors too which helps. You dont have a wiring diagram in your manual? Does Ignitech have an online diagram? I havent visited that site in awhile.
Dont worry, once Howie, Darkmonster 620 or DP are on deck you will have better advice.

[terse750]

I hear that!
There is a wiring diagram.
The TCIP4 only has three connectors

:flywheel plug : one for each coil! Three total!

The one is obvious the other to are interchangeable.

One has 2 wires(white &blue)
The other has 3 wires (Orange, brown & green)

The manual states that the orange wire goes to coil 1, the white wire goes to coil 2...
I have my coils labeled "H" and "V" for reference. Or you could consider them front and rear. But 1 and 2?
The other plugs from the original set-up are for the Tach? ( smaller plug with 2 wires each) Which this unit deletes.

The manual speaks in general terms... Not bike specific.
I must be missing something!

[Howie]

I would be if I was familiar with the Ignateck module.  I agree getting the cylinders wrong would not hurt the unit and you will know you need to switch.  I agree with all Koko said.  1 and 2?  Like you said, generic.  I'm guessing that is to include horizontal and and parallel twins.  If your bike is an '01 carbie the green wire that is now on the coil is the tach signal.  If you don't have a wiring manual you can download it here:  http://www.ducati.com/services/maintenance/index.do

[terse750]

I heard back from Ignitech.
They said give it a shot one way or the other. Shouldn't hurt the unit
I'll try after work today

[Speeddog]

BIKE SIDE    - - - - -   IGNITECH

red..............................brown
white...........................blue

yellow.........................yellow
black...........................blue

red..............................red
white...........................orange
black...........................blue

red
brown/green.................white
black

[koko64]

Good to have you back.

[terse750]

BIKE SIDE    - - - - -   IGNITECH

red..............................brown
white...........................blue

yellow.........................yellow
black...........................blue

red..............................red
white...........................orange
black...........................blue

red
brown/green.................white
black

Yeah...already you have 10 wires here and my TCIP4 harness only has 8 wires total.

blue
blue
black...which connects the flywheel pick-ups plug

Blue
white...fits a coil plug

Blue
orange
red...fits another coil plug.

Seems like I'm missing a few

Well after trying the key and ignition..................Nothing, not even the fuel pump was stirring

Lights / signals /brake lights etc. are working fine.

I'm going to try and contact Ignitech again

Now I REALLY wish I would have bought the proper 900 motor for all this work. feeling like a true jackass now

[koko64]

Fuel pump? Isnt your bike carbed? If the Ignitech was for a carbed bike with vacuum pump and not electric, you won't hear anything.

[ducpainter]

Fuel pump? Isnt your bike carbed? If the Ignitech was for a carbed bike with vacuum pump and not electric, you won't hear anything.

There's a back story here...

http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=71155.0

Not sure exactly what he's done.

[Speeddog]

Yeah...already you have 10 wires here and my TCIP4 harness only has 8 wires total.

~~~SNIP~~~

The bike harness has 10 wires, the Ignitech harness has 8.

Bike harness has 4 connectors, as does the Ignitech.

One of the 3-hole connectors on the Ignitech has just one wire, the white one.

Along with what Koko said, your bike is a carbureted M750, yes?

Using the two pickups that trigger off of the flywheel, and are the red & white and yellow & black wires?

Or are you using a 750ie engine and the ie ignition trigger that's mounted to the alternator cover>