This little shit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PowwUZw1xPM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PowwUZw1xPM)
Sorry for the shitty quality. It's a video of the TV playing the VHS tape...
you called the cops for snowman assault?
man.. that's cold. really cold.
next time make the snowman's head with broken glass in it.
were you able to put the head back on?
Did they up the charge to Att Murder?
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"thats my boy!"
in all fairness.... it was not a snowman it was a snowJayne Mansfield
Quote from: GotDuc on January 26, 2009, 04:26:37 PM
were you able to put the head back on?
The first three times? Yup. Then I put the camera up and caught the make the beast with two backser this morning. That's my three year old in the background yelling at the TV about the little shit knocking it's head off. He has been trespassed and will be arrested the next time he comes on the property...
What did he take at the end?
little badass
He can practice in Juvy hall
Picked up the scarf and then dropped it a little further down.
He's a latch-key kid and I have to assume his mom had no idea what he has been up to. She does now....
Little make the beast with two backser. Where I live I am surrounded by wealthy families whose children are raised by their nannies. I see this kinda crap all the time. When you confront the parents they act as though you are being unreasonable and that their spawn are just angels.
Nice move! [bow_down]
mix dog shit with the snow (or pee or some other noxious stuff) and when he smashes it with this hands and tromps on it - he'll smell as soon as he hits those nice heated hallways at school. Or better yet, his locker will smell and they'll call the principal to investigate!!! [laugh]
You called the police over a snowman? :)
Your kid giving the play by play was pretty funny BTW. "Uh oh"
Quote from: lauramonster on January 26, 2009, 04:48:44 PM
mix dog shit with the snow (or pee or some other noxious stuff) and when he smashes it with this hands and tromps on it - he'll smell as soon as he hits those nice heated hallways at school. Or better yet, his locker will smell and they'll call the principal to investigate!!! [laugh]
THAT is far better than glass, except that poop in the snow will be obvious
Can ya blame the kid? Hell, if I lived somewhere there was that much cold and snow...and my new neighbor from sunny ass Arizona kept building a f**king snowman...just to rub it in...I'd give that thing the People's Elbow too!! >:(
:-* [cheeky]
Dude, it was my THREE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER'S snow-Haley (yes, she said it was her)...
Yeah that kid is a little punk but for some reason I find that video so funny LOL
Me too. I'm just thrilled I caught the little shit.
There's no way he was gonna see the camera (8 year old X10 wireless camera). Hell, the cop didn't even see it after I pointed it out to him...
Dude, it's a make the beast with two backsing snowman. :-\
Quote from: kopfjager on January 26, 2009, 05:46:04 PM
Dude, it's a make the beast with two backsing snowman. :-\
It's malicious destruction of property. I don't know if you have kids, but I don't like having to explain to my 3 y/o what happened to her snowman...
Quote from: kopfjager on January 26, 2009, 05:46:04 PM
Dude, it's a make the beast with two backsing snowman. :-\
Come on.... You know that's where all criminals start. Next it will be shoplifting, Car Jacking, Armed Robbery [evil]
I think its good to put a little scare into the Punk so he thinks twice about it next time.
And he has snow all over the place. He can make his own Snowman or Snowwoman and open a can of whoop ass on it if that makes him feel better about himself ;D
This is in no way an indictment of anyone's actions, but merely an observation of differences between eras that I find interesting.
When I was a kid, if something like that happened, my Mom would either have taken it up with the kids parents and made the little shit apologize, or (more likely) taught me the ephemeral nature of snowmen and how they're the target for bad people because of their nature. Police would only have been involved if something was stolen, broken or someone was injured. Everything else was handled within the neighborhood.
It seems that these days, for whatever reason, neighbors with disputes are less likely to resolve them on their own.
Quote from: superjohn on January 26, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
This is in no way an indictment of anyone's actions, but merely an observation of differences between eras that I find interesting.
When I was a kid, if something like that happened, my Mom would either have taken it up with the kids parents and made the little shit apologize, or (more likely) taught me the ephemeral nature of snowmen and how they're the target for bad people because of their nature. Police would only have been involved if something was stolen, broken or someone was injured. Everything else was handled within the neighborhood.
Well, I'm of a pretty recent vintage, and that's how I would have handled it. Where I live, if I called the police to report "malicious destruction" of my snowman, they would hang up on me.
Quote from: NAKID on January 26, 2009, 05:50:47 PM
I don't know if you have kids, but I don't like having to explain to my 3 y/o what happened to her snowman...
Just tell her it's a snowman eat snowman world.
Is this a joke? You have got to be kidding me.
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Quote from: superjohn on January 26, 2009, 06:02:00 PM
This is in no way an indictment of anyone's actions, but merely an observation of differences between eras that I find interesting.
When I was a kid, if something like that happened, my Mom would either have taken it up with the kids parents and made the little shit apologize, or (more likely) taught me the ephemeral nature of snowmen and how they're the target for bad people because of their nature. Police would only have been involved if something was stolen, broken or someone was injured. Everything else was handled within the neighborhood.
It seems that these days, for whatever reason, neighbors with disputes are less likely to resolve them on their own.
I have an 11y/o and a 3y/o. Unfortunately in these times, me having a talking with the absent mom about her kid doing shit to other people's things while he's at home alone until 6 or 7pm isn't going to do much. I called the cops, not to have him charged or sent to juvy, but to scare the shit out of him so maybe he will think twice before doing stupid shit on and to other people's property (OPP)...
Quote from: =P on January 26, 2009, 06:37:16 PM
Is this a joke? You have got to be kidding me.
Nope, dead serious...
I support calling the cops on that little punk fully.
its all about consideration for others and their shit and kids these days need to learn it early.
hell im only 24 and I think that. I feel old now. :'(
~JD
Quote from: NAKID on January 26, 2009, 05:50:47 PM
It's malicious destruction of property. I don't know if you have kids, but I don't like having to explain to my 3 y/o what happened to her snowman...
Last I checked the snow isn't anyone's property. Kinda like you leaving a dog bowl out, having it fill with rain, and then complaining someone came and dumped your "property" on the ground. The most you had was a trespass violation but those are only valid after an order from the property owner to stay off the property.
Do you try talking to him first? Alot of these "latch key" kids are just looking for some direction or mentoring. I was a latch key kid. It's not an easy way to grow up.
Congrats Chris...
You busted a 12 year old with issues. [thumbsup]
I guess it seems a bit much for those of you who don't know the situation. The mother raises this kid by herself, goes to work before he leaves for school and comes home 3-4 hours after he gets home from school. There is no one else at home. Other than the 1-2 hours a day that she spends at home with him (doing what, who knows) he has no one to emulate other than kids from school or what he sees on the t.v. Had I told his mom, one of two things could have happened: she could have chewed his ass (like my parents would have done) or told him "you know better than that" and not mention it again. That's IF she believed that it was HER kid that did it in the first place, video or not.
Quote from: hbliam on January 26, 2009, 07:29:05 PM
Last I checked the snow isn't anyone's property. Kinda like you leaving a dog bowl out, having it fill with rain, and then complaining someone came and dumped your "property" on the ground. The most you had was a trespass violation but those are only valid after an order from the property owner to stay off the property.
Do you try talking to him first? Alot of these "latch key" kids are just looking for some direction or mentoring. I was a latch key kid. It's not an easy way to grow up.
Let's say I have some wild flowers growing in my yard. I water them, prune them and fertilize them. Then, the same kid comes and stomps all over them. Is that not destruction of property? What about the knit cap, scarf, and gloves that he stomped on and dragged into someone else's yard? The fact is building the snowman was a conscious effort and could be considered "art".
Quote from: ducpainter on January 26, 2009, 07:36:53 PM
Congrats Chris...
You busted a 12 year old with issues. [thumbsup]
Nope, the cops just informed her that her kid is doin shit that his isn't supposed to being doin when she isn't around.
Quote from: Triple J on January 26, 2009, 05:22:00 PM
Can ya blame the kid? Hell, if I lived somewhere there was that much cold and snow...and my new neighbor from sunny ass Arizona kept building a f**king snowman...just to rub it in...I'd give that thing the People's Elbow too!! >:(
:-* [cheeky]
[laugh]
You should have got the poop idea before you called the cops..or..
you could have been waiting and pulled your gun out on him.
Either way..it would have ended in a sh*tty mess. [laugh]
I don't own a gun. Plus in CT, you need to have a special permit just to take the gun out of your house...
Quote from: NAKID on January 26, 2009, 07:41:45 PM
Nope, the cops just informed her that her kid is doin shit that his isn't supposed to being doin when she isn't around.
You never did anything wrong either...
right?
Not at all. But my parents were around and I got my ass busted on a fairly regular basis...
Quote from: NAKID on January 26, 2009, 08:03:54 PM
Not at all. But my parents were around and I got my ass busted on a fairly regular basis...
So maybe it sucks to be a child of a single mom...
or maybe it just sucks to be a child 40 years after you were.
I'm not saying the kid should walk away.
You could have handled it differently...
with better results IMO.
It's make the beast with two backsing snow.
I would love to here the cop's down at the station talking (laughing) about this. :-\
I'm surprised at how many people are shocked about the cops being called. Did you miss when Chris said that this was the fourthtime?! Clearly this kids has no respect or concept of other peoples property. I'm all for talking to the kids mom...when it would make a difference. These days it takes a run-in with the Man or some type of Big Brothers program. Right vs. wrong is not being taught or enforced by many parents today. This kid is painfully bored. If someone doesn't show him the light now it could get worse.
Flame on.
I'm with you - the kid trespassed. Regardless of what's required of a property owner to make that a crime (and I don't think ANYTHING should be required - if you're on my property without my permission, its trespassing IMO). But personally, I would have tried talking to the mother first before I called the police. If the problem persisted, then I'd make the call.
FTR... I was a key kid myself
I was a lil shit
I did far worse
and some of ya'll like me in spite of my having been a lil shit.
maybe make the kid some hot coco after asking him to join ya in a friendly snowball fight.
I'd just shoot the little make the beast with two backser. [roll]
Add one criminal to the roles....
I would have tortured some of you "Nancies", when I was a kid.
Quote from: kopfjager on January 26, 2009, 08:26:36 PM
I would have tortured some of you "Nancies", when I was a kid.
make that a "we" [evil]
Build snowman around bricks, pour water over, let him have fun.
Quote from: NAKID on January 26, 2009, 07:41:45 PM
I guess it seems a bit much for those of you who don't know the situation. The mother raises this kid by herself, goes to work before he leaves for school and comes home 3-4 hours after he gets home from school. There is no one else at home. Other than the 1-2 hours a day that she spends at home with him (doing what, who knows) he has no one to emulate other than kids from school or what he sees on the t.v. Had I told his mom, one of two things could have happened: she could have chewed his ass (like my parents would have done) or told him "you know better than that" and not mention it again. That's IF she believed that it was HER kid that did it in the first place, video or not.
Let's say I have some wild flowers growing in my yard. I water them, prune them and fertilize them. Then, the same kid comes and stomps all over them. Is that not destruction of property? What about the knit cap, scarf, and gloves that he stomped on and dragged into someone else's yard? The fact is building the snowman was a conscious effort and could be considered "art".
Nope, the cops just informed her that her kid is doin shit that his isn't supposed to being doin when she isn't around.
I bet I know what single Mom is doing the 1-2 hours a day she is home with her son. Probably feeding him, doing his laundry, cleaning up after him, helping him with his homework, paying her bills, doing her laundry, buying groceries, etc, etc, etc.
You said it yourself, he needs someone to emulate. A stern discussion with him followed by a "come over sometime and I'll show you how to work on bikes" or whatever would have went alot farther in making his and your life living near each other more agreeable. I have about five people in my life that I credit with helping me "find my way". A few of the five did not spend much time with me but the time spent was valuable. So no, you don't have to neglect your kid to have a positive impact on the neighbor kid.
RE: Your wildflowers. An argument could be made that they are part of your landscaping so yes they could be property. Vandalism in CA is coupled with a dollar value (I'm not sure how they do it where you live) and higher values are actually felonies. So with your flowers or your snow you still wouldn't meet the required value of 1 cent to get me to do anything about it. :)
Quote from: bobspapa on January 26, 2009, 08:27:16 PM
make that a "we" [evil]
I believe we have formed a...
gang.
Quote from: hbliam on January 26, 2009, 08:30:30 PM
RE: Your wildflowers. An argument could be made that they are part of your landscaping so yes they could be property. Vandalism in CA is coupled with a dollar value (I'm not sure how they do it where you live) and higher values are actually felonies. So with your flowers or your snow you still wouldn't meet the required value of 1 cent to get me to do anything about it. :)
Yeah but....think how expensive it is to get snow in California! Those weather machines ain't cheap. Man is sittin' on a gold mine.
Vigilante justice would have probably been your best bet C?! Show him how crazy you are and it may have scared him a bit! [evil]
Now that he knows you've called the cops on him though..he might do more stuff to purposely p*ss you off. :-\
Show him your leg. That'd scare anyone off.
Quote from: ducpainter on January 26, 2009, 08:32:48 PM
I believe we have formed a...
gang.
I blew up a newspaper stand
I blew up a payphone
I blew up lots of stuff.... even myself once
I made lots of skateboard ramps with "borrowed" wood
I got really good a flinging asphalt roofing shingles
I broke windows
I rode across peoples yards
I shot a man in reno just to watch him die
all while mom was at work
Quote from: bobspapa on January 26, 2009, 08:37:06 PM
I blew up a newspaper stand
I blew up a payphone
I blew up lots of stuff.... even myself once
I made lots of skateboard ramps with "borrowed" wood
I got really good a flinging asphalt roofing shingles
I broke windows
I rode across peoples yards
I shot a man in reno just to watch him die
all while mom was at work
My mom was home, so I hung out with kids whose weren't. ;)
All I can say is, I wish it was snowing. ;D
Quote from: bobspapa on January 26, 2009, 08:37:06 PM
I blew up a newspaper stand
I blew up a payphone
I blew up lots of stuff.... even myself once
I made lots of skateboard ramps with "borrowed" wood
I got really good a flinging asphalt roofing shingles
I broke windows
I rode across peoples yards
I shot a man in reno just to watch him die
all while mom was at work
I got a phone call from my best bud one night...
bring all the glue you got...
His parents had a bomb shelter in the basement...
with luan doors.
The door didn't stand up to our bomb. ;D
Quote from: ducpainter on January 26, 2009, 08:45:07 PM
I got a phone call from my best bud one night...
bring all the glue you got...
His parents had a bomb shelter in the basement...
with luan doors.
The door didn't stand up to our bomb. ;D
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
One more thing before i head off the sleepland....
lms oldest has aspergers. Without knowing he has it...... one would think he's a rude mean kid. Knowing how aspergers plays into his behaviour, makes dealing with him waaaaaaay clearer.
I'm not say'n the kid is an aspy....... but he clearly is look'n to heard and understood.
The time it took to set up the camera, could have been spent...... seeking an alternative view of the kid.
Good luck Chris
If you don't help him, this is what will happen.
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i think this whole thread has potential.
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There is no right answer to this one [bang]
Quote from: Big Troubled Bear on January 26, 2009, 10:14:23 PM
There is no right answer to this one [bang]
Sure there is.
I established a long time ago to any kids in my neighborhood that I'm nuts, they know not to do me wrong.
Since then, highly visible cameras ensure of no future problems.
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If I were that kid, that snow man would turn into a bicycle jump. [evil]
Quote from: IZ on January 26, 2009, 08:34:03 PM
Vigilante justice would have probably been your best bet C?! Show him how crazy you are and it may have scared him a bit! [evil]
Now that he knows you've called the cops on him though..he might do more stuff to purposely p*ss you off. :-\
Vigilante justice in this state would have landed ME in jail!
Quote from: bobspapa on January 26, 2009, 08:23:13 PM
<snip>
maybe make the kid some hot coco after asking him to join ya in a friendly snowball fight.
I like this idea.
And, maybe meet the mom, too? Invite her to meet your family and have a beer sometime. I bet she's a decent person who's busting her ass to keep her life together.
My sister raised 2 kids on her own, and I know how unbelievably tough it was.
Jeeze, some people are calling me a nancy for calling the cops but here wwe have people telling me I should invite the kid over and talk to him about his "feeling"? WTF?
Quote from: bobspapa on January 26, 2009, 08:37:06 PM
I blew up a newspaper stand
I blew up a payphone
I blew up lots of stuff....
I blew up my share of stuff as well. I don't know why, but blowing up things with pipe bombs is
really funny! Especially fancy mailboxes that look like the house they're in front of! [laugh]
I'm really glad I'm not growing up now a days. I would have been labeled a terrorist probably. :-\ [roll] Back then all I worried about was my Dad (a fireman) finding out.
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target aquired.......
distance...... 30 yards
pumps...... 5 sir
wait..... wait.......
take the shot Timmy
target down sir
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Jr sniper training
Quote from: bluemoco v2.0 on January 27, 2009, 07:42:35 AM
I like this idea.
And, maybe meet the mom, too? Invite her to meet your family and have a beer sometime. I bet she's a decent person who's busting her ass to keep her life together.
My sister raised 2 kids on her own, and I know how unbelievably tough it was.
plus, she might be hot... and lonely...
Personally, I think Chris did it the right (read-safe) way.
Say you grab the brat by his arm and make him take you over to talk with his mom. She might accuse you of assaulting her kid. That gets ugly fast.
Say you build a malicious snowman, with glass in it-don't tell me that wouldn't play out as assault-and what if his own kid got into it? Also sucks.
As for being his friend? That's great-you invite a random kid into your house for hot cocoa. That sound okay to you? How about if it was your kid? I know my mother insisted I not go into strangers houses when they offered me goodies. It's a great way to be labelled a weirdo, whether he has kids or not.
It's all really just a pain in the ass. When I put up my fence, I'm going to electrify it.
^^^^^^^^ +1
It's not the same world it used to be. Unfounded accusations and lawsuits come way too easily.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 27, 2009, 09:49:10 AM
Personally, I think Chris did it the right (read-safe) way.
Say you grab the brat by his arm and make him take you over to talk with his mom. She might accuse you of assaulting her kid. That gets ugly fast.
Say you build a malicious snowman, with glass in it-don't tell me that wouldn't play out as assault-and what if his own kid got into it? Also sucks.
As for being his friend? That's great-you invite a random kid into your house for hot cocoa. That sound okay to you? How about if it was your kid? I know my mother insisted I not go into strangers houses when they offered me goodies. It's a great way to be labelled a weirdo, whether he has kids or not.
It's all really just a pain in the ass. When I put up my fence, I'm going to electrify it.
or.... just ignore a toppled snowman and the reason for it's demise
building a snowman, or doing anything with your kids is more about time spent with the kids.
a dead snowman is just another opportunity to spend the time building another one with the ones you care about
it's all perspective
Or just build it in your backyard ???
Quote from: bobspapa on January 27, 2009, 10:51:55 AM
or.... just ignore a toppled snowman and the reason for it's demise
building a snowman, or doing anything with your kids is more about time spent with the kids.
a dead snowman is just another opportunity to spend the time building another one with the ones you care about
it's all perspective
Ah, no-any kid who thinks coming onto my property to destroy anything, especially multiple times, is some sort of pastime will get straightened out.
That same little bastard probably thinks it'd be fun to sit on my bike, and possibly knock it over.
It's not the snowman-it's the principle. It's about respect.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 27, 2009, 11:00:51 AM
Ah, no-any kid who thinks coming onto my property to destroy anything, especially multiple times, is some sort of pastime will get straightened out.
That same little bastard probably thinks it'd be fun to sit on my bike, and possibly knock it over.
It's not the snowman-it's the principle. It's about respect.
Dave, I'm glad you get it...
Quote from: NAKID on January 27, 2009, 07:52:47 AM
Jeeze, some people are calling me a nancy for calling the cops but here wwe have people telling me I should invite the kid over and talk to him about his "feeling"? WTF?
I don't think anybody is calling you a nancy, nor are we suggesting you do some backyard Freudian analysis on the kid. We're just offering different ways to approach the kid (and his mom). You chose to call the [leo]. I'd probably save that for a [very] last resort.
It certainly is about teaching some respect. If you think that calling the police about your damaged snowman is the right way to do that, then that's your prerogative.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 27, 2009, 09:39:31 AM
plus, she might be hot... and lonely...
[laugh]
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the kid is never gonna respect Chris go'n that route
clearly his mom does not have his respect., so why would he have any for Chris..... the cops are not going to drill it into him.
if its respect for his property Chris wants...... then... Chris has to earn it. it aint right, but it's the only way it'll happen.
I have the same thing go'n on in my neighborhood with a group of lil punk skaterbrats.
no parental control...they make the beast with two backs around in everybodys yard cept mine..... why.... because I took the time to talk to them on thier level, and even went so far as to skate a lil with them. They now leave my shit alone.
Some kids need compliance by fear. This is not the same situation as with a group of kids. You have a group of kids with nothing better to do than entertain each other by seeing how far they can take things. Here, this kid was by himself and not trying to impress anyone else...
Quote from: bobspapa on January 27, 2009, 11:38:47 AM
clearly his mom does not have his respect.
Not necessarily. She just isn't around to witness this.
Quote from: NAKID on January 27, 2009, 11:42:27 AM
Some kids need compliance by fear. This is not the same situation as with a group of kids. You have a group of kids with nothing better to do than entertain each other by seeing how far they can take things. Here, this kid was by himself and not trying to impress anyone else...
...and the reality is that's how society is structured for the most part -- most people don't speed in their cars for fear of being fined (or arrested). few of us punch our bosses in the nose even if he deserves it -- why? fear of punishment, not because it isn't the right thing to do.
Nobody complained about the kid knocking the head off the first 3 times, so now the 4th he gets the po-po at his door?
Who's to say he did it the first 3 times?
Sure, one would suppose the kids is guilty, but one would suppose asking the kid to not touch your snowman would be enough deterrent.
Kids are kids. You're the adult.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 27, 2009, 11:00:51 AM
It's not the snowman-it's the principle. It's about respect.
agreed. That said, it's a no-win situation. You ignore it, maybe it escalates.. you ignore it, maybe it goes away. He's a kid and kids do stuff without thinking.
Maybe now that the PD got involved.. now is the time to help that kid get on the right path. We all get home, close our garages and seal ourselves in our fortresses. Clearly the mom needs help. Maybe she doesn't want it, but what's an hour a week? Hell, pay the kid to cut the grass or something. My sister is raising 3 kids on her own (widow) and it takes all of us to pitch in to keep everyone out of trouble.
Kill the kid with kindness, and next year you can both laugh about this.
Andy
Quote from: bobspapa on January 27, 2009, 11:38:47 AM
no parental control...they make the beast with two backs around in everybodys yard cept mine..... why.... because I took the time to talk to them on thier level, and even went so far as to skate a lil with them. They now leave my shit alone.
That is indirectly supporting their decisions to mess with other people's stuff then, right? You are rewarding their behavior by being buddies, and since they don't touch yours, they are more likely to touch others'.
I think that is a big problem with parents today - they act like friends with their children, instead of setting standards for behavior.
I am torn on this one, cause I have punk kids throwing stuff around our neighborhood, but also think that calling the cops is over kill. But, we have tried talking to their parents, and that doesn't seem to change things either. One neighbor actually moved due to the brats.
mitt
Quote from: Munch on January 27, 2009, 12:27:35 PM
Nobody complained about the kid knocking the head off the first 3 times, so now the 4th he gets the po-po at his door?
Who's to say he did it the first 3 times?
Sure, one would suppose the kids is guilty, but one would suppose asking the kid to not touch your snowman would be enough deterrent.
Kids are kids. You're the adult.
I didn't know who it was, hence the camera. It happened after I went to work but before my wife woke up.
I would assume that when I rebuilt the thing 3 OTHER TIMES that it was an indication I didn't want it's head taken off. Also, during the video, he's the only kid who walked by my place during the morning.
Also, I'm not going to the kids house while he's at home alone, as he shouldn't be answering the door.
Quote from: mitt on January 27, 2009, 12:36:03 PM
That is indirectly supporting their decisions to mess with other people's stuff then, right? You are rewarding their behavior by being buddies, and since they don't touch yours, they are more likely to touch others'.
I think that is a big problem with parents today - they act like friends with their children, instead of setting standards for behavior.
I am torn on this one, cause I have punk kids throwing stuff around our neighborhood, but also think that calling the cops is over kill. But, we have tried talking to their parents, and that doesn't seem to change things either. One neighbor actually moved due to the brats.
mitt
The officer gave me two options, he could go over and trespass the kid from my property and give him the official notice and a warning about the vandalism, or he could give the kid a juvy summons and do it in court.
Juvy for this situation is way overkill. I wanted him to scare the kid. Forcing his mom to take time out of work and him out of school to go to court wouldn't be helping the situation.
If my kid did that and the other parent acted the way I did, my kid would have their ass handed to them! They would WISH they had gone to juvy...
I have read every reply back to this thread... I am still a kid will to most of you i am. 19 years old, adult in all senses and circumstances i have done WAY worse then whats listed here and it wasnt to long ago. I learned by getting caught. My parents didnt find out about any of it and if they did best believe my dad would have beat the living shit out of me... Anyways to get to my point the kid is in the wrong. No one seems to mention that he built the snowman with his kids one of which is 3 years of age! Why does she/he (dont remember which) have to keep REbuilding her snowman because of some snot nose kid ruining it? its not fair. And as for the snow being property or not here in MARYLAND if someone is walking on the CITY sidewalk and there is snow on it that you have not shoveled and they slip and fall it is a huge lawsuit for the owner of the house its out front of. Calling the cops wasnt overkill at all maybe it will stop him from throwing eggs at buses and cars and others houses in a year or 2.
Quote from: mitt on January 27, 2009, 12:36:03 PM
That is indirectly supporting their decisions to mess with other people's stuff then, right? You are rewarding their behavior by being buddies, and since they don't touch yours, they are more likely to touch others'.
not even close.
all I did was take a lil time to meet the kids, talked to them about their boards and that was pretty much it.... same as I have done with my other neighbors.
I guess I could sit in my driveway with a finger ready to dial 911 everytime a kid skates by.
kids will forever be kids... some have better parents than others.... some have more respect than others. every case is different, as is every kid different.
I don't want to be the guy in the neighborhood yelling "get off my lawn". some of the best times in my life happend in other peoples yards. (backyards and fences are another matter [evil])
Maybe it's just my ature, but I would have given some bigger kids $20 bucks to smack some respect into that kid. But then I am contentious douchebag.
Quote from: ZLTFUL on January 27, 2009, 01:11:42 PM
Maybe it's just my ature, but I would have given some bigger kids $20 bucks to smack some respect into that kid. But then I am contentious douchebag.
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Did you consider putting out a contract on the kid, NAKID?
Quote from: swampduc on January 27, 2009, 01:28:01 PM
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Did you consider putting out a contract on the kid, NAKID?
Depends on what I find on the tape NEXT time [laugh]
You guys would be surpised with the calls we get. The majority of them could be worked out by neighbors talking to each other. If that's been tried and failed, I am totally behind calling the police if needs be. I always ask, "Have you talked to them about this before you called us?" I normally get a no and then I ask them how it's going to look that the first step they took was to send the police to their house. Some people get it and take care of the issue themselves. The others? I'm fairly certain the neighbors never talk to them again. Why would they?
Anyway. I will continue to talk to my neighbors first and call the police last...oh and clean my guns in the garage with the door open. For some reason I don't have any problems. ;)
Quote from: hbliam on January 27, 2009, 02:17:48 PM
Anyway. I will continue to talk to my neighbors first and call the police last...oh and clean my guns in the garage with the door open. For some reason I don't have any problems. ;)
Do you mumble to yourself and rock back and forth while you do that?
I firmly support the call to the Cops. The punk did this 4 times and needs to learn that there are repercussions to actions. Obviously he was not getting the concept that you don't "destroy your neighbors property" at home. Being scared by the cops my have been a good thing in the long run. If he did not learn his lesson, then he will have more involvement with the cops in the future. Might as well start now before it's serious so Mom may have a better chance of turning him around.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 27, 2009, 02:19:40 PM
Do you mumble to yourself and rock back and forth while you do that?
You know that liam is a [leo], right?
but he's one of us, too!!
Quote from: bluemoco v2.0 on January 27, 2009, 03:11:23 PM
You know that liam is a [leo], right?
Why would that preclude me from rocking back and forth and mumbling to myself?
Quote from: Fox on January 27, 2009, 02:40:11 PM
I firmly support the call to the Cops. The punk did this 4 times and needs to learn that there are repercussions to actions. Obviously he was not getting the concept that you don't "destroy your neighbors property" at home. Being scared by the cops my have been a good thing in the long run. If he did not learn his lesson, then he will have more involvement with the cops in the future. Might as well start now before it's serious so Mom may have a better chance of turning him around.
Have we established that there was any type of action taken the first three times? The way I understand it, the first time the kid or his mother were alerted to the fact that Nakid knew what was going on was by the police.
Quote from: hbliam on January 27, 2009, 03:59:51 PM
Why would that preclude me from rocking back and forth and mumbling to myself?
[laugh] [laugh]
Touche'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ9ieVLaLo8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ9ieVLaLo8&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YB8zGUZol4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YB8zGUZol4)
[laugh]
Nakid:
Some would choose to talk to the parents, some would choose to call the Police.
You did the right thing IMO
It's make the beast with two backsing snow..........snow god damnit....snow... [roll]
Quote from: hbliam on January 27, 2009, 04:02:29 PM
Have we established that there was any type of action taken the first three times? The way I understand it, the first time the kid or his mother were alerted to the fact that Nakid knew what was going on was by the police.
The action taken the first three times was to blow it off and rebuild it. Did you miss that part? What several people have established is that he obviously didn't care that what we was doing was wrong...
Quote from: kopfjager on January 27, 2009, 04:36:01 PM
It's make the beast with two backsing snow..........snow god damnit....snow... [roll]
It's the principle, the principle god damnit!
What principle. You are mad because a kid knocked over a snowman....a snowman. :'(
Quote from: kopfjager on January 27, 2009, 04:36:01 PM
It's make the beast with two backsing snow..........snow god damnit....snow... [roll]
(http://nealmeister.typepad.com/the_nealmeister/images/2008/01/12/snowman.jpg)
maybe the snowman started it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LucFY-SKpO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LucFY-SKpO0)
Quote from: kopfjager on January 27, 2009, 04:46:54 PM
What principle. You are mad because a kid knocked over a snowman....a snowman. :'(
Would you say the same thing if that kid had pushed his kid down? Face it, he bullied Nakid's 3 year old, not Nakid himself.
In my day, my ass would have been dragged to my parents, and then I would receive a spanking in front of that person.
Biggest problem with our country today is the lack of personal responsibility and accountability. This is a prime example.
You should have asked the cop to Tase him. ;)
Wow.....
7 pages about a snowman being toppled. Someone needs a hug.
Quote from: Court-Jester on January 27, 2009, 04:52:14 PM
Biggest problem with our country today is the lack of personal responsibility and accountability. This is a prime example.
I agree...except you don't know that about this kid. He was just being a dumb ass kid...like we all have. I'm sure you've never done anything stupid? [roll]
If he would have talked with the parent...then it kept happening, or the mom told him to shove it...then I would agree with you. But all we know now is the kid thought knocking off the snowman's head was funny, and the 1st he heard that it pissed someone off was when the cops showed up at his door.
I'm not trying to bash NAKID...that's just my perspective. Personally I would have talked to the parent...or ambushed him with water balloons. [evil] ...but that's me.
Do you guys get all bent out of shape when kids bash pumpkins at Halloween too? I don't...I think it's funny...and that's been happening
forever.
Quote from: Court-Jester on January 27, 2009, 04:52:14 PM
Would you say the same thing if that kid had pushed his kid down?
He knocked over a snowman.....a snowman.
Quote from: Triple J on January 27, 2009, 04:57:42 PM
I agree...except you don't know that about this kid. He was just being a dumb ass kid...like we all have. I'm sure you've never done anything stupid? [roll]
If he would have talked with the parent...then it kept happening, or the mom told him to shove it...then I would agree with you. But all we know now is the kid thought knocking off the snowman's head was funny, and the 1st he heard that it pissed someone off was when the cops showed up at his door.
I'm not trying to bash NAKID...that's just my perspective. Personally I would have talked to the parent...or ambushed him with water balloons. [evil] ...but that's me.
Do you guys get all bent out of shape when kids bash pumpkins at Halloween too? I don't...I think it's funny...and that's been happening forever.
I think I would have dug a trench around the snowman. Line it with sharpened bamboo stakes rubbed with poo, cover it loosely with snow and wait.....
OTOH, water balloon idea is a good one too. [thumbsup]
Quote from: NAKID on January 27, 2009, 04:44:28 PM
The action taken the first three times was to blow it off and rebuild it. Did you miss that part? What several people have established is that he obviously didn't care that what we was doing was wrong...
It's the principle, the principle god damnit!
No I didn't miss that part. I was pointing out to the other poster that your first contact with the kid/mother was through the police.
I'm not saying you did the wrong thing. I'm just saying I wouldn't have escalated it to that level without trying to resolve it myself first.
Quote from: hbliam on January 27, 2009, 05:07:28 PM
No I didn't miss that part. I was pointing out to the other poster that your first contact with the kid/mother was through the police.
I'm not saying you did the wrong thing. I'm just saying I wouldn't have escalated it to that level without trying to resolve it myself first.
Technically, you would have. :P
Quote from: kopfjager on January 27, 2009, 04:46:54 PM
What principle. You are mad because a kid knocked over a snowman....a snowman. :'(
No, I got over that. I am pissed because this kid has no respect for other people's things.
The main point is he had no reason NOT to believe that someone was at least upset that the snowman was messed up when it was rebuilt, over and over again...
Quote from: NAKID on January 27, 2009, 05:15:18 PM
The main point is he had no reason NOT to believe that someone was at least upset that the snowman was messed up when it was rebuilt, over and over again...
Que?
Nakid
Some people would rather you have just ignored this kid and then pat you on the back and send you $5 when he burns down your house 10 years from now since no one set him str8 when he was knocking over snowmen.
Yes, it's only snow, but it fell on Nakid's property. Once that kid crossed the property line, he owes even the garbage can respect since it clearly belongs to someone else.
The fact is, sending the cops over to give him a stern talking-to is the best thing. Cops are not animals or monsters (but they can be) they are just public SERVANTS whose job it is to keep the peace (which in this case, they are serviing as a buffer between homeowner and trespasser).
Some states allow you to kill a trespasser. I think Nakid's calling in the police on this sends a good message -- "Let's obey the law, let's not resort to violence, and please stop doing what you are doing."
of course, i would have put poo or glass or nitroglycerine in the snowman after #2 was destroyed and taught junior to laugh as the brat/delinquent reacted.
Just for the record, I was a very bad kid. I was the nightmare valedictorian in high school, who pranked the principal, who blew up mailboxes. I made a drano bomb and flooded the high school (by setting it off in the 3rd floor toilet). I was very naughty -- BUT I WAS SMART ENOUGH TO LOOK AROUND FOR CAMERAS.
Well... look at it this way... you get to have more quality time with your kids enjoying this nice NE weather while rebuilding the snowman. ;D
Quote from: kopfjager on January 27, 2009, 05:17:58 PM
Que?
OK Daryl, we're obviously not going to see things the same way.
Quote from: Charlief on January 27, 2009, 05:25:48 PM
Well... look at it this way... you get to have more quality time with your kids enjoying this nice NE weather while rebuilding the snowman out of C4. ;D
fixed
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 27, 2009, 05:22:17 PM
The fact is, sending the cops over to give him a stern talking-to is the best thing. Cops are not animals or monsters (but they can be) they are just public SERVANTS whose job it is to keep the peace (which in this case, they are serviing as a buffer between homeowner and trespasser).
True. I think the opposing points hearken for the day when people talked to each other.
Quote from: hbliam on January 27, 2009, 05:32:35 PM
True. I think the opposing points hearken for the day when people talked to each other.
Yes, people used to talk. And if you got busted by cops with a couple of joints, you'd get a stern talking-to about the dangers of the "negro drug" and sent home without your stash.
In the old days, said kid would have gotten his ass whipped with a stick and his dad would have come over and screamed at Nakid for whipping his kid, and then they would have had a bbq contest the following summer.
Those days are over.
This is why when something odd/destructive etc happens, I mention it to all the neighbors I cross paths with. Just saying "You know, the other day this (insert oddity here) happened" can sometimes make a difference. Some parents can and will put 2 & 2 together and get 4. Couldn't hurt to in light conversation say something like "Some silly keeps knocking down my kids snowman" or something of the sort whenever you talk to any of the neighbors. You'd be surprised what some people see and keep mum about until they know it affects someone they're talking to ~
JM
We had talked to some of the other neighbors. No one had seen anything. We literally had NO IDEA who it was before the video. The primary reason for setting up the camera was to find out who was doing it. It was just a bonus that we were able to identify the kid. Downside being that we knew what house he lived in and that his mom wasn't home until late...
Quote from: hbliam on January 27, 2009, 02:17:48 PM
Anyway. I will continue to talk to my neighbors first and call the police last...oh and clean my guns in the garage with the door open. For some reason I don't have any problems. ;)
When I was in Jr. High, a friend of mine Knew about this greenhouse in an alley that had a few Pot plants inside. One night around 10:30 we snuck in to the back yard and made an attempt to get in the greenhouse. There was a note on the door that said;
"You have been seen I should not have to say more" Undeterred we continued to try and get in without making any noise. When the light to the bedroom came on suddenly, we were out of there in a flash making a bit of a ruckus on the way out.
The next day we cruised by in broad daylight and took a glance into the back yard. There was the guy, sitting on the back stoop in the sunlight. He was too busy to notice us, But in his left hand was a big black, semi auto, something or other pistol. The mans right hand was busy screwing the silencer on to the pistol. We never went back there again.
WOW! Eight pages of debate over this incident and the only live witnesses are NAKID, the kid and the cop. Here is the reality. Maybe NAKID could have handled it better, maybe not. Something needed to be done, and for kids quick works well. The kid didn't go to jail or get a fine, no harm done. Would I have called the cops on the kid? Nope. Main reason being I live in Da Bronks and the cops are too busy chasing mother rapers and father stabbers. That would just be wrong. If I lived in Mayberry and could call Andy and Barney, well, maybe.
when the snow melts, i can guess who's yard kids won't cut through. ;)
I haven't been on this site in months. I just spent far too long reading this thread. All I can think is that either
A) I hope to god that some day my life is so worry free that I have the time to work myself into a lather over a snowman
or
B) I hope to god that my life is never so damn boring that I ever work myself into a lather over a snowman
sac
/did lots of stupid and destructive stuff as a kid
//never felt like I was "taught a lesson" by the lame ass cops who busted me, their idiocy encouraged me to push it further
///currently a productive member of society
Quote from: SacDuc on January 27, 2009, 08:55:04 PM
///currently a productive member of society
Debatable.
here's the snowman killer's school picture
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f356/mcfartknuckle/peanutbutter-mf.jpg)
Quote from: hbliam on January 27, 2009, 05:07:28 PM
No I didn't miss that part. I was pointing out to the other poster that your first contact with the kid/mother was through the police.
I'm not saying you did the wrong thing. I'm just saying I wouldn't have escalated it to that level without trying to resolve it myself first.
I understand what you were saying, and I still firmly support calling the cops. Parents these days have a tendency to protect their child. "Not my little Billy, he would never do that." type attitude. The kid now knows that you can't ruin others property.
Yes I know it is "just" a snowman but it represents more.
My neighbor that moved away accused the 2 boys next door to him of breaking his siding by throwing rocks at it, and confronted their parents. The kids then accused the neighbor of "illegal acts" on them, and things escalated quickly. The kids damn well did it, 4 other neighbors saw them do it daily, I saw them do it on occasion.
It just sucks that some parents 1) will not control their kids to start with, and 2) will not own up to it when they find out they are being sh!ts
mitt
Well, maybe it was a bit of wishful thinking, but the mom has not come over. I expected her to do what I would have in this situation, drag his little ass over here and make him apologize. Maybe my standards and expectations are a little too high. I personally would be thankful I didn't get a call from juvenile hall saying come pick him up if I was his mother...
You need to put up signs that say "Trespassers will be violated".
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2009, 11:35:25 AM
Well, maybe it was a bit of wishful thinking, but the mom has not come over. I expected her to do what I would have in this situation, drag his little ass over here and make him apologize. Maybe my standards and expectations are a little too high. I personally would be thankful I didn't get a call from juvenile hall saying come pick him up if I was his mother...
So your first contact with her was through the [leo]. Now you're surprised that she didn't immediately come over to your house and introduce herself as the mom whose kid beat up your snowman? Really?
[laugh]
Yup, really. Cause that's what someone who has any control over their kids and respect for their neighbors would do...
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2009, 11:35:25 AM
Well, maybe it was a bit of wishful thinking, but the mom has not come over. I expected her to do what I would have in this situation, drag his little ass over here and make him apologize. Maybe my standards and expectations are a little too high. I personally would be thankful I didn't get a call from juvenile hall saying come pick him up if I was his mother...
Maybe she would have if you hadn't sent the police to her house. Not to mention you had the police tell them that he is never allowed on your property again. Now you want it to be handled all neighborly? ???
OK, so apparently the officer did not get back to her Monday night. In fact he just got back to her this evening and she saw us pull into the driveway after going to the store. She came up and told us that the officer told her what had happened. She was a bit upset that we didn't come talk to her, but after I explained my reasoning why, she understood. She said the kid was in the house crying his eyes out that he didn't do it. We asked her if she wanted to see the video, of course she said yes.
We invited her in and showed her the video and she said, yup, that's him. We talked for about 30 mins. I explained that I told the officer that I didn't want him charged or cited, but I wanted him to know that he could have been and just how serious trespassing and property damage is. We also told her about him taking the sunglasses on the snowman (what he grabbed before he walked away) but that we didn't tell the officer he took them.
I told her how things were when I grew up and how my dad would have handled it. She told me not to worry, he was going to get it good.
I have no regrets on how I handled it and given the same situation again, I would do the same thing.
There are no hard feelings between her and us and she was very apologetic and said he would be over tomorrow to apologize to my daughter himself.
[clap]
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2009, 05:46:52 PM
I have no regrets on how I handled it and given the same situation again, I would do the same thing.
There are no hard feelings between her and us and she was very apologetic and said he would be over tomorrow to apologize to my daughter himself.
...with his fresh black eye and cigarette burns on the bottoms of his feet... ;D
Quote from: Mother on January 28, 2009, 05:54:02 PM
...with his fresh black eye and cigarette burns on the bottoms of his feet... ;D
They'll get infected there [roll]
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2009, 05:46:52 PM
OK, so apparently the officer did not get back to her Monday night. In fact he just got back to her this evening and she saw us pull into the driveway after going to the store. She came up and told us that the officer told her what had happened. She was a bit upset that we didn't come talk to her, but after I explained my reasoning why, she understood. She said the kid was in the house crying his eyes out that he didn't do it. We asked her if she wanted to see the video, of course she said yes.
We invited her in and showed her the video and she said, yup, that's him. We talked for about 30 mins. I explained that I told the officer that I didn't want him charged or cited, but I wanted him to know that he could have been and just how serious trespassing and property damage is. We also told her about him taking the sunglasses on the snowman (what he grabbed before he walked away) but that we didn't tell the officer he took them.
I told her how things were when I grew up and how my dad would have handled it. She told me not to worry, he was going to get it good.
I have no regrets on how I handled it and given the same situation again, I would do the same thing.
There are no hard feelings between her and us and she was very apologetic and said he would be over tomorrow to apologize to my daughter himself.
Do you ask Her what she does the 1-2 hours a day she is with her son? [roll]
Your update is just evidence that you could have handled this by talking to her.
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2009, 11:35:25 AM
Well, maybe it was a bit of wishful thinking, but the mom has not come over. I expected her to do what I would have in this situation, drag his little ass over here and make him apologize. Maybe my standards and expectations are a little too high. I personally would be thankful I didn't get a call from juvenile hall saying come pick him up if I was his mother...
wow. definition of passive aggressive right here.
I was with you earlier for a number of practical reasons but you've lost me now. If you wanted to speak to the mom why call the cops?
You don't have the courtesy of talking to her first on the assumption that she'd just protect lil Billy and then you get all pissy because you again assumed she'd come over. Maybe it's not Mom's behavior but your assumptions that need adjusting.
[EDIT now that I've caught up with rest of thread}
+1 sounds like your assumptions about Mom were unfounded as your update shows.
Next time if you want someone to talk to you I suggest talking with them first as opposed to having your best friend talk to their best friend ..... ;)
So much for the single parent that doesn't care theory. [roll]
...not all from Nakid...lots of people echoed this sentiment.
I wanted the mom to come over, yes. But, as I have stated before, I feel the KID needed to be scared by the police for it to really sink in.
Also, the reason she isn't home much is because in addition to working, she goes to school as well...
is it really a good thing to intimidate a child with the police? I can't imagine that will build a healthy respect for either policemen or for property if he has the riot act read to him over a snowman. You can argue that it was the principle, but the cops did not show up over violating a principle (in the kid's mind), they showed up because he killed a snowman.
I totally got that you wanted to deal with vandalism, but to say you feel the kid NEEDED to be SCARED by the cops is disturbing.
Kids mom will finish the job now that she knows where you live...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbEkvP3otZ8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbEkvP3otZ8&feature=related)
And don't think for once Timmy won't grow up and remember this day, every night lying awake, dreaming of...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX96CYhPdUo&feature=channel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX96CYhPdUo&feature=channel)
^^^ [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Taunting & Tackle
was that "flamethrower" a squirt gun filled with some accelerent?
Quote from: redxblack on January 28, 2009, 07:06:26 PM
I totally got that you wanted to deal with vandalism, but to say you feel the kid NEEDED to be SCARED by the cops is disturbing.
Come on, disturbing? [roll]
There is a difference between him not having a healthy respect for authority (police officers) because they give him shit about nothing, and the cop going over there and telling him in no uncertain terms that what he did was illegal and could result in his arrest.
Quote from: redxblack on January 28, 2009, 10:34:50 PM
was that "flamethrower" a squirt gun filled with some accelerent?
it had better be, else he was probably possessing an illegal DD
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2009, 06:54:23 PM
I wanted the mom to come over, yes.
Why, is she Hott??
[evil]
Quote from: redxblack on January 28, 2009, 10:34:50 PM
was that "flamethrower" a squirt gun filled with some accelerent?
Windshield washer fluid I hear is good. [evil]
Quote from: rgramjet on January 29, 2009, 06:53:14 AM
Why, is she Hott??
[evil]
you guys dissapoint me...... it took this long before somebody says it [roll]
[laugh]
Quote from: hbliam on January 28, 2009, 06:31:33 PM
1. - Do you ask Her what she does the 1-2 hours a day she is with her son? [roll]
2. - Your update is just evidence that you could have handled this by talking to her.
First off that is none of his business
As for the update. I am sure you know that in a lot of cases trying to talk to the parent can be a bad thing. It can go bad in so many ways.
Having the Police go and talk to the kid might not be a bad thing at all. Too many and I mean too many kids have no respect for the Police. So a healthy dose of fear might be a good thing.
Quote from: bobspapa on January 29, 2009, 07:09:58 AM
you guys dissapoint me...... it took this long before somebody says it [roll]
[laugh]
about 5 pages back
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 27, 2009, 09:39:31 AM
plus, she might be hot... and lonely...
Quote from: bobspapa on January 29, 2009, 07:14:51 AM
my bad.
:'( (http://gravybread.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/crying-indian_fullhead80p.jpg)
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 29, 2009, 07:13:32 AM
about 5 pages back
He dodged the question, hence my follow up!
ANSWER THE QUESTION!
;D
She's not exactly my type.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 29, 2009, 07:20:09 AM
:'( (http://gravybread.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/crying-indian_fullhead80p.jpg)
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] ROFL!
Quote from: NAKID on January 29, 2009, 07:32:55 AM
She's not exactly my type.
well, nothing a shared 40 won't cure..
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 29, 2009, 07:39:32 AM
well, nothing a shared 40 won't cure..
(http://bfcgroup.com/helluvatough/billydeesign.jpg)
Quote from: NAKID on January 29, 2009, 04:02:38 AMtelling him in no uncertain terms that what he did was illegal and could result in his arrest.
[roll] [puke]
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 29, 2009, 03:51:01 PM
That contributed a lot.
Is he wrong?
I have already made my decision on that pretty clear.
Quote from: kopfjager on January 29, 2009, 03:59:32 PM
I have already made my decision on that pretty clear.
Remember BJ Mough? He was the kid on a 250 who was sideswiped by a coupla of girls in their car. He followed them when they wouldn't stop. They called their dad while on the way home, and when he drove by, the girls' dad shot him.
You wana follow some strangers kid home to discuss things, be my guest. That shit gets out of hand, and quick.
OK, so if you made it clear, why post this?
Quote from: kopfjager on January 29, 2009, 03:45:59 PM
[roll] [puke]
Quote from: NAKID on January 29, 2009, 04:03:28 PM
OK, so if you made it clear, why post this?
You keep dragging this thread along, I just stop by to be disgusted.
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Just answering asked questions...
Quote from: NAKID on January 29, 2009, 04:17:51 PM
Just answering asked questions...
More like the situation worked out ok and you're still being second guessed...
So...
it worked out OK so far...
I vote we leave it alone until things change.
Can everyone agree
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and lock this thread?
Quote from: GotDuc on January 29, 2009, 07:13:03 AM
First off that is none of his business
No it isn't, and wasn't when he brought it up prior.
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As for the update. I am sure you know that in a lot of cases trying to talk to the parent can be a bad thing. It can go bad in so many ways.
Having the Police go and talk to the kid might not be a bad thing at all. Too many and I mean too many kids have no respect for the Police. So a healthy dose of fear might be a good thing.
Nope. I still think it should be the first step. Having a cop yell ay you for 187 on a snowman is not going to build respect.
I think we are all mature enough that we can let it go until more relevant information needs to be posted. I'm generally against locking threads unless there is uncontrolled chaos.
Quote from: NAKID on January 29, 2009, 04:02:38 AM
Come on, disturbing? [roll]
There is a difference between him not having a healthy respect for authority (police officers) because they give him shit about nothing, and the cop going over there and telling him in no uncertain terms that what he did was illegal and could result in his arrest.
What he did could not have resulted in arrest. At least not by any self respecting cop.
I have parents from time to time come to the station and tell me they want me to scare their kid, tell him he will go to jail or whatever, because he doesn't mind them. I tell them all no. It's a parenting issue and I'm not going to damage the kids view of the police. He may need the police someday or I may need him and I want him to feel comfortable talking to the police.
Anyway...your snowman is safe. The kid has been dealt with and the single mom that works FT and goes to school turned out to be a good person regardless of your initial profiling. Ha! it's good to accuse someone else of profiling now and again. [thumbsup]
Quote from: hbliam on January 29, 2009, 07:15:58 PM
What he did could not have resulted in arrest. At least not by any self respecting cop.
I have parents from time to time come to the station and tell me they want me to scare their kid, tell him he will go to jail or whatever, because he doesn't mind them. I tell them all no. It's a parenting issue and I'm not going to damage the kids view of the police. He may need the police someday or I may need him and I want him to feel comfortable talking to the police.
Anyway...your snowman is safe. The kid has been dealt with and the single mom that works FT and goes to school turned out to be a good person regardless of your initial profiling. Ha! it's good to accuse someone else of profiling now and again. [thumbsup]
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't see my last post since you're replying to something I posted 15 hours ago....
Quote from: NAKID on January 29, 2009, 07:26:38 PM
I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that you didn't see my last post since you're replying to something I posted 15 hours ago....
I read it. I've been at work since 0430.
Well, in that case, you just don't respect that I asked to let this die, so now it's locked...