Title: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 09, 2009, 11:04:35 AM So I take me new BSTs to have the tires swapped over and all. Well my wife picked them up today, and the front came back like this...
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/tonkoshala/07092009453.jpg) Is there anything I can do or am I stuck with a big or white line scar on my new wheels??? Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: kopfjäger on July 09, 2009, 11:12:18 AM Holy shit. :o Who the make the beast with two backs did that?
They need to replace the wheel. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Slide Panda on July 09, 2009, 11:13:57 AM is there damage damage? What's causing the white? Could it be buffed out with a *very* mild abrasive? I had good luck with Meguiars PlasticX and a a sponge pad to buff a CF hugger to where I could see myself.
Perhaps someone with more experience refinishing CF will have in sights. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: corey on July 09, 2009, 11:17:01 AM EPIC FAIL.
Tire tech = fired. Where'd you have this done? They'll be replacing the wheel IMO. Good choice on tires btw. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DucatiSTi on July 09, 2009, 11:43:30 AM Hope the wife isn't responsible ;D - if she is, I'd change the locks [evil]
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: hypurone on July 09, 2009, 12:24:28 PM Dude! If that is more than tire lube all dried up and nasty looking, they owe you a new wheel!! >:( >:(
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Bladecutter on July 09, 2009, 12:59:06 PM So I take me new BSTs to have the tires swapped over and all. Well my wife picked them up today, and the front came back like this... (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/tonkoshala/07092009453.jpg) Is there anything I can do or am I stuck with a big or white line scar on my new wheels??? And that right there is why I swap all my own tires on my bikes (Ducati's and Honda's alike), but also my friends bring me their Ducati's, Yamaha's, Honda's, and whatever else. Heck, I just swapped out my racer friends bikes and spare wheels just yesterday and today (3 race bikes, and 2 sets of spare wheels). Heck, just got a set of Diablo SuperCorsa SC2's take offs and a dyno run for my 848 in exchange of all that work. She can't use the Pirelli's because she's contracted with Michelin. There's no way I could hand over a set of rims that looked like that to anyone. BC. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: psycledelic on July 09, 2009, 01:12:41 PM Did the culprit own up to it, or just put them in your wife's car good side up. Not that it matters, honest or not, they should replace it.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DrDesmo on July 09, 2009, 01:13:19 PM And this, friends, is why I am getting a no-mar changer setup when I get sweet wheels ... Like my friend Steve.
Yikes :-\ Cheers, Adam Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 09, 2009, 01:25:01 PM Spoke with them shorty after posting this. Manager is not going to be in till tomorrow and he has to look at them. Hope they make right. If not there will be some major hell raising [leo] involved. These suckers were not cheap and I'm not a wealthy man.
(BTW the wife is in the dungeon for a week for bringing them home without saying anything to them) [evil] She says he told her that it should just rub off that it's normal for CF wheels to do that when you first put a set of tires on the. I can't wait to stand eye to eye with this fella. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Speedbag on July 09, 2009, 01:27:22 PM Hell, I'm pissed and they're not even mine. >:(
If they were mine, a tire tech would be in the ER having them removed from his ass. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: hypurone on July 09, 2009, 02:46:01 PM Hell, I'm pissed and they're not even mine. >:( If they were mine, a tire tech would be in the ER having them removed from his ass. Yeah but then he has to clean that shit off too! Literally... [puke] [laugh] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 09, 2009, 03:02:26 PM Yeah but then he has to clean that shit off too! Literally... [puke] [laugh] Nope been giving this serious consideration. It will be up to the store manager to clean them off before returning them to me. BTW he will clean them with no hands involved. I called the people to make sure they were competent in doing CF wheels. Don't know who the hell I talked to that day, but he sounded like he knew what he was doing and had done them before. anymatter how f'ing hard can it be to put a tire on a wheel??? PS the little white mark on the wheel goes all the way around... I am going to take Beelzebub with me in the morning. My sweet black 85lb pitbull [thumbsup] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: mitt on July 09, 2009, 03:13:17 PM Best wishes to get it sorted out. Looks like the shop might get to have a used set of wheels for sale.
mitt Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Ivan on July 09, 2009, 03:18:46 PM That sucks. There is only one place (Spectrum Moto) that I trust with my BSTs.
Is that a PR2 tire? If so, be aware that those are somewhat heavier than the PP. If you really want to get the full benefit of the BST wheels, you might want to consider using sport tires instead of ST tires. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: mattyvas on July 09, 2009, 03:48:43 PM That is beyond taking the piss!
I hate having tyres changed, my shop has always done it with care and I usually hang about and watch/chat. My wheels were just painted and Rob didn't want to put the rubber back on for almost a week just to be sure. That is a shop that cares and they are just stock painted rims. Then it is a long way to come to Sydney to change your rubber. Hope it gets sorted and they take responsibility. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DucHead on July 09, 2009, 04:58:41 PM And this, friends, is why I am getting a no-mar changer setup when I get sweet wheels ... Like my friend Steve. Yikes :-\ Cheers, Adam I've had one for three years. One of the best investments I've ever made. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: MaxPower on July 09, 2009, 06:05:34 PM ...he told her that it should just rub off that it's normal for CF wheels to do that when you first put a set of tires on the. I can't wait to stand eye to eye with this fella. What a genius. He must have meant it's normal for only the front wheel to do this? Just brutal. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: psycledelic on July 09, 2009, 06:54:41 PM Spoke with them shorty after posting this. Manager is not going to be in till tomorrow and he has to look at them. Hope they make right. If not there will be some major hell raising [leo] involved. These suckers were not cheap and I'm not a wealthy man. (BTW the wife is in the dungeon for a week for bringing them home without saying anything to them) [evil] She says he told her that it should just rub off that it's normal for CF wheels to do that when you first put a set of tires on the. I can't wait to stand eye to eye with this fella. You should ask him why he didn't just rub it off. Might be worth mentioning that being cool with them (in the beginning at least) might lead to a better outcome. I mean, I would sit on the cock sucker, mother f..., stupid son of a bi.... stuff until it becomes obvious that they are not gonna make amends. As much as it is probably deserved, the main thing is to get your wheel replaced (or rubbed out ??? - how do you rub scuffs out of carbon fiber clearcoat anyway?). Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: He Man on July 09, 2009, 08:56:08 PM I've had one for three years. One of the best investments I've ever made. which nomar do you have? been wanting to get one. but Pilot Road 2cts take forever to die. but i could always charge a minimal fee until i cover the cost of the thing. :p Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: mookieo2 on July 10, 2009, 10:05:39 AM which nomar do you have? been wanting to get one. but Pilot Road 2cts take forever to die. but i could always charge a minimal fee until i cover the cost of the thing. :p I bought the Harbor Freight Changer and the No Mar bar. I changed my first set of tires in a bout an hour and a half. That is with taking them off and back on the bike. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 10, 2009, 10:34:14 AM Thanks for all the responses. This is why I love my Ducati. You don't see this much support on a typical sportbike forum... [thumbsup]
Just got back from the shop. I was able to keep my cool when I found that the fella that did the mishap had the day off...Went real smooth the manager was very apologetic. My take to him was a polite golf style response of "hey man accidents happen." They are going to get back with me Monday at the latest to let me know the time frame for replacing my wheels. (seeing how they do not carry them and hadn't even heard of BST?) Looking at the rear wheel it also had some minor scaring on it too. Both wheels will be replaced. [thumbsup] I was really hoping to drive the bike to Nashville this weekend...PITA, but it's all good... >:( How much does a decent balancer and changer setup cost? Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: NAKID on July 10, 2009, 10:36:36 AM Ummm, I get the feeling they may retract (or attempt to) their offer when they find out how much they cost. Especially since they have never heard of them (WTF?)
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: kopfjäger on July 10, 2009, 10:38:36 AM (seeing how they do not carry them and hadn't even heard of BST?) I have to ask. Why the make the beast with two backs would you take those wheel's to be mounted by a shop that never heard of BST's? ??? ??? :( Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DrDesmo on July 10, 2009, 10:58:54 AM How much does a decent balancer and changer setup cost? ~$1000 http://www.nomartirechanger.com/ (http://www.nomartirechanger.com/) Cheers, Adam Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 10, 2009, 11:08:12 AM Ummm, I get the feeling they may retract (or attempt to) their offer when they find out how much they cost. Especially since they have never heard of them (WTF?) Naw they will make good. (fingers and toes crossed) I let them know the price of the wheels....several...several...times ;) If not I get to make them. If that be the case I am getting much free stuff from my local cyclegear shop... I'm in Memphis TN guys where a least 85-90% of the soprtbikes around here are raked out drag bikes....with neon....We have bike night on Beale Street Wednesday nights and you don't wanna know how many other cycle owners have walked up to me and said "What's wrong with your bike?" Simply because they've never heard a dry clutch. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 10, 2009, 11:10:34 AM I have to ask. Why the make the beast with two backs would you take those wheel's to be mounted by a shop that never heard of BST's? ??? ??? :( The guys told me they haven't done several sets of CF wheels....n cause I get stuck on stupid from time to time [bang] [drink] [drink] [drink] Seriously I didn't think it that tough of a job.... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: kopfjäger on July 10, 2009, 12:06:46 PM Seriously I didn't think it that tough of a job.... Live and learn. ;) Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: rockaduc on July 10, 2009, 03:13:57 PM I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you as well.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on July 10, 2009, 03:39:16 PM Man, that is a seriously hosed up situation!! Glad that they are stepping up to the plate and getting you taken care of though. Looking forward to see how this all pans out for you.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: duc996 on July 10, 2009, 06:17:55 PM Have them replace it or sue the f!@#$! out of em!I'm sure they know how much that BST cost.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: NAKID on July 10, 2009, 06:21:59 PM Sooooooooooooooo, whatcha plannin on doing with the other wheels?
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: filter on July 10, 2009, 06:42:07 PM Sooooooooooooooo, whatcha plannin on doing with the other wheels? LOL. A bunch of vultures in this forum! Now we see why everyone was demanding they replace the wheels. :) Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 10, 2009, 06:47:50 PM LOL. A bunch of vultures in this forum! Now we see why everyone was demanding they replace the wheels. :) Heh I am assuming that the shop will keep the ones they jacked up. Anyone know the weight of the stock S4 wheel? I've never been one to sue (strong believer in krama) but here it would be VERY tempting. I mean you ole Cyclegear has to have some $$$ :P Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: kopfjäger on July 10, 2009, 06:51:27 PM Ducati OEM aluminum 3-spokes, 11.5 lbs front, 13 lbs rear
Ducati OEM aluminum 5-spokes (996/998), 9.25 lbs front, 12 lbs rear Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 10, 2009, 07:13:54 PM Ducati OEM aluminum 3-spokes, 11.5 lbs front, 13 lbs rear Ducati OEM aluminum 5-spokes (996/998), 9.25 lbs front, 12 lbs rear [thumbsup] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: junior varsity on July 11, 2009, 05:12:49 AM Naw they will make good. (fingers and toes crossed) I let them know the price of the wheels....several...several...times ;) If not I get to make them. If that be the case I am getting much free stuff from my local cyclegear shop... I'm in Memphis TN guys where a least 85-90% of the soprtbikes around here are raked out drag bikes....with neon....We have bike night on Beale Street Wednesday nights and you don't wanna know how many other cycle owners have walked up to me and said "What's wrong with your bike?" Simply because they've never heard a dry clutch. There's a couple regulars out there! (Hell, I used to be one). Though I never rode the bike down to Beale at night. Too many doing the booze cruise for me. I never got any work on my bike done in Memphis. Ever. It went back to Nashville to Corse motorsports everytime for Alain and Andy to have a look at. And if I need a run of the mill part, I went down to DeSoto Honda. Best of luck to you. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: corndog67 on July 11, 2009, 02:18:57 PM I'm pretty sure that when I used to have my tires mounted at a dealer, there was a sign there that said, "Not responsible for damage/scratches to wheels". I do my own tires, so all the scratches are my own damn fault.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: NAKID on July 11, 2009, 04:03:40 PM I'm pretty sure that when I used to have my tires mounted at a dealer, there was a sign there that said, "Not responsible for damage/scratches to wheels". I do my own tires, so all the scratches are my own damn fault. That's a bullshit cop-out. It's absolutely their responsibility. Just because they put up a sign doesn't mean they can do it... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: corndog67 on July 11, 2009, 05:23:38 PM The last shop I worked at, if you were real worried about your wheels getting scratched, because it does happen occasionally, he would let you do it yourself on his machine. At your own risk. I bet those guys won't pay for those carbon wheels to be replaced.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: He Man on July 11, 2009, 06:16:47 PM The last shop I worked at, if you were real worried about your wheels getting scratched, because it does happen occasionally, he would let you do it yourself on his machine. At your own risk. I bet those guys won't pay for those carbon wheels to be replaced. thats not that bad of an idea, i wished more shops did that. heres the machine, give me say...$25 bucks go scratch your own damn wheels. it would be cool if the operator had to put a $500 deposit to do your wheels. that way hed treat them as if they were his own. you need to see some guys chanigng tires man, they dont give a shit. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: corndog67 on July 11, 2009, 06:39:42 PM He would let you do it for free if you bought your Rennsports from him. Then no one to blame but yourself. Seriously though, sometimes they get scratched, no matter who does them. I don't see how any shop could guarantee no scratches, especially considering how many times tires get changed on and off of some guys wheels.
"it would be cool if the operator had to put a $500 deposit to do your wheels. that way hed treat them as if they were his own. you need to see some guys chanigng tires man, they dont give a shit." The only problem with that is that those guys changing tires usually (at least around here) make about $200 a week. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Qwack on July 11, 2009, 06:53:24 PM Seriously though, sometimes they get scratched, no matter who does them. Accidents do happen, however, people need to own up to it...sticking them in the trunk and not saying anything, or in this case telling his wife it will rub off,is complete BS. Since it is a service being paid for, by a person that is supposed to be a trained technician they shouldn't damage the wheels, scratches are damage, and they should make good on it,no matter the cost...if not they should not change tires. Can you tell, I have had too many wheels damaged at dealerships that don't give a crap. [bang] whew, I'm better now [wine] ;D Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: CairnsDuc on July 12, 2009, 01:33:26 PM While working at a Ducati Dealership, I started dealing a little bit with a Hard core Harley/Chopper tuning shop down the road (They use to do our Road Worthy Certs for Registration) I now take my wheels off, and take it into these guys for them to do the tyre change, Considering the crowd of customers he has to look after, well, I'll tell you how he described his typical customer.
"These guys are hard core, they will spend 10's of thousands on there Harleys and Choppers for the latest performance bit's, or chrome bling bit, They become very good friends, but if you make the beast with two backs up and scratch/damage there pride and joy, they don't come in and complain or call you, they walk in the front door and knock your ass out!" So he has the best machine that money can buy, and they are very very cautious, it's a bit more work for me, as I have to take the wheels off and put them back on, but after having my rear rim resprayed twice due to the Damage from shitty machine the local Ducati dealer uses (Yes the same dealer I worked for, they have now gone out of business), I'd rather do it this way. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: RavnMonster on July 13, 2009, 04:10:09 AM Sooooooooooooooo, whatcha plannin on doing with the other wheels? took the words right out of my keyboard... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: RavnMonster on July 13, 2009, 04:15:28 AM ~$1000 http://www.nomartirechanger.com/ (http://www.nomartirechanger.com/) Cheers, Adam that may have to be an nice addition to the garage shop Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: corey on July 13, 2009, 04:21:54 AM Naw they will make good. (fingers and toes crossed) I let them know the price of the wheels....several...several...times ;) If not I get to make them. If that be the case I am getting much free stuff from my local cyclegear shop... I'm in Memphis TN guys where a least 85-90% of the soprtbikes around here are raked out drag bikes....with neon....We have bike night on Beale Street Wednesday nights and you don't wanna know how many other cycle owners have walked up to me and said "What's wrong with your bike?" Simply because they've never heard a dry clutch. So you had the tires put on at cyclegear? I had mine installed recently there, and they seemed very thorough about checking the wheels with me there BEFORE mounting the tires, and pointing out scratches and nicks that were already present. then we went back through afterwards and made sure everything was still hunky-dorey. They did a good job... They were, however, very intent on making sure my wheels were NOT magnesium, as they did not want to risk bending them or damaging them. They would NOT do CF wheels at all, as they had a tech accidently CRUSH one... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DrDesmo on July 13, 2009, 04:25:00 AM that may have to be an nice addition to the garage shop Once I get a garage i'm getting one - it took us 15 minutes, maybe, to set it up, and throw both pilot powers on the S4R Cheers, Adam Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: RavnMonster on July 13, 2009, 05:40:00 AM Once I get a garage i'm getting one - it took us 15 minutes, maybe, to set it up, and throw both pilot powers on the S4R Cheers, Adam Very nice, that thing will pay for itself in time. Especially if you have multiple bikes or lots of friends with bikes. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Danmack_98 on July 13, 2009, 03:39:08 PM Any updates?
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Popeye the Sailor on July 13, 2009, 07:57:42 PM Very nice, that thing will pay for itself in time. Especially if you have multiple bikes or lots of friends with bikes. Only if you charge your friends ;) Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 14, 2009, 06:30:16 AM So you had the tires put on at cyclegear? I had mine installed recently there, and they seemed very thorough about checking the wheels with me there BEFORE mounting the tires, and pointing out scratches and nicks that were already present. then we went back through afterwards and made sure everything was still hunky-dorey. They did a good job... They were, however, very intent on making sure my wheels were NOT magnesium, as they did not want to risk bending them or damaging them. They would NOT do CF wheels at all, as they had a tech accidently CRUSH one... I assume they are different at every shop. The one here said they would have no problem doing they CF wheels.... Spoke to the manager yesterday and basically got the run around. Said he has to talk to the regional fella to see what needs to be done. He is suppose to call me around lunch time today. I have a good mind to go on their website and find a way to call the regional guy myself... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: NAKID on July 14, 2009, 06:37:53 AM I would argue that the wheels aren't safe in their current condition and that everyday that they aren't replaced is a day you can't ride. I would mention something about possibly getting a lawyer involved to see what your options are. That may speed up their response time a bit...
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on July 14, 2009, 11:36:13 AM I would mention something about possibly getting a lawyer involved to see what your options are. That may speed up their response time a bit... +1. You probably wouldn't even have to talk to an attorney, but just the mere mention could get them moving. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 14, 2009, 12:14:09 PM Fella called today. Not looking too good. I was in the shower and missed the call. He said he was still waiting to here something back from the guy who heads up this kinda stuff. Told me that the base of operations is out of California said "you know how California time goes."
Alright dude stalling I can understand but the Cal statement was a fuct. Jackass wants to insult me like that....alright :-X Said he was going to call me again tomorrow. I'm out of town till tomorrow. I'll give him till then. If no progress is made tomorrow I will turn up the heat. He has had enough time to work something out. >:( >:( >:( Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DrDesmo on July 14, 2009, 12:36:04 PM Sounds like its time to call in the troops, and by that I mean an attorney.
Your state almost certainly requires them to have a general liability policy. Call their HQ, talk to book keeping (or the state) to find out their policy info, or take them to small claims. I personally would give them 5 business days, send a letter of demand, and then hold them to the fire. Accidents are a part of business - not making them right, and acting like its not an issue for a customer, is simply bad business. Good luck! Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on July 14, 2009, 01:26:44 PM Also, as toothless as this may sound, don't forget to let the establishment know that you intend to contact the better business bureau on them. It never hurts to have all your bases covered in situations like this, and having the ability (effective or just implied) to blast them on all fronts is a good thing to have on your side.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: NAKID on July 14, 2009, 01:41:08 PM You're a better man than I am. I would have called them back immediately with what I recommended earlier...
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: txduc on July 14, 2009, 02:21:12 PM F'n Cyclegear. I had my tires changed there once and never will again. Rear came back w/ a scratch where the wheel weights were before and the trained monkey said it was already there along w/ some paint on the verge of cracking off the side. Looked like the F'er took a screwdriver to the weights to peel them off. I think they have a Squids only hiring policy.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: junior varsity on July 14, 2009, 02:33:32 PM If you need the name of an attorney in Memphis PM me so I can get you in touch with him, and he can get you in touch with somebody who specializes in the appropriate field.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: corndog67 on July 14, 2009, 03:48:20 PM F'n Cyclegear. I had my tires changed there once and never will again. Rear came back w/ a scratch where the wheel weights were before and the trained monkey said it was already there along w/ some paint on the verge of cracking off the side. Looked like the F'er took a screwdriver to the weights to peel them off. I think they have a Squids only hiring policy. I think I mentioned that they don't pay their people jack. I hope it works out. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DucHead on July 15, 2009, 08:53:28 AM Very nice, that thing will pay for itself in time. Especially if you have multiple bikes or lots of friends with bikes. Mine "paid for itself" in a little over a year. The quotation marks are because most of the tire changes are on other peoples wheels FOC. :) Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: El Matador on July 15, 2009, 01:33:06 PM I think I mentioned that they don't pay their people jack. I hope it works out. Yup, I used to work at one. They only pay overtime two days a year, Christmas and Thanksgiving. And overtime is only 1.5. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: junior varsity on July 15, 2009, 01:52:16 PM Overtime is 1.5 everywhere. Double time is 2x. Duh.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: greenohawk69 on July 15, 2009, 02:02:41 PM (BTW the wife is in the dungeon for a week for bringing them home without saying anything to them) [evil] She says he told her that it should just rub off that it's normal for CF wheels to do that when you first put a set of tires on the. I can't wait to stand eye to eye with this fella. If it would "just rub off", why didn't they do it then? [roll] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: El Matador on July 15, 2009, 02:22:45 PM Overtime is 1.5 everywhere. Double time is 2x. Duh. [beer] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 15, 2009, 04:29:53 PM Update....
Spoke with the manager again today. Had to call him...let him know that I was becoming impatient with it all today. His take (which is believable) was that it has to go through the companies corporate structure before they can make a move. Cyclegear does have round about 100 stores give or take...I am going to give till the end of the week before I make another move. If I do not hear from them by then I will attempt to contact the main office myself. PS I for one think that overtime should be X2 [cheeky] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on July 15, 2009, 04:31:37 PM Get in touch with an attorney and see what they say, especially if you have any attorney friends. ;)
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: psycledelic on July 15, 2009, 09:48:27 PM Get in touch with an attorney and see what they say, especially if you have any attorney friends. ;) I agree. It would be to your benefit to stay one step ahead. How much to BST's cost anyway? Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: al@sktc on July 15, 2009, 10:13:07 PM lawyer up! don't worry about hurting their feelings, you will never go there again anyhow.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: corey on July 16, 2009, 04:33:02 AM Yup, I used to work at one. They only pay overtime two days a year, Christmas and Thanksgiving. And overtime is only 1.5. People get paid for overtime? ... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: pitbull03 on July 16, 2009, 04:53:53 AM Get a lawyer. If you don't want to go that route, you can always sue them in small claims court yourself. Should be pretty easy to get a judgement.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Langanobob on July 16, 2009, 07:21:12 AM I agree. It would be to your benefit to stay one step ahead. How much to BST's cost anyway? I think around $3500 (!!) Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: hypurone on July 16, 2009, 08:47:09 AM I think around $3500 (!!) I can verify that! [thumbsup] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on July 16, 2009, 09:44:15 AM How much to BST's cost anyway? I would like to revert to my previous comment stating that you simply do not want to know, but... I can verify that! [thumbsup] I can as well. ;) Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 16, 2009, 06:53:42 PM If you need the name of an attorney in Memphis PM me so I can get you in touch with him, and he can get you in touch with somebody who specializes in the appropriate field. Thanks ATO I have that covered [thumbsup] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: psycledelic on July 19, 2009, 03:45:51 AM Any update?
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 19, 2009, 06:01:28 AM Got a call Friday. They gave me a lady's name who is suppose to call me Monday to replace me wheel. I decided to keep the rear wheel because the scratch on it was very minor. Hopefully this will all be over soon. I miss riding my bike! It's been hell with these wheels sitting out next to my bike and the inability to mount them! Well the front. I could not resist and mounted the rear a few nights ago.
BTW anyone here with a DS swing arm have troubles with sprocket carrier clearance? The bolts that hold the sprocket are rubbing the swing arm. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on July 19, 2009, 04:38:25 PM Make sure you are completely ok about keeping a scratched carbon (BST or otherwise) wheel. If I were you I would be more inclined to making the shop replace it as well. Try to contact BST directly (www.blackstonetek.com/ContactUs.php (http://)) and get their thoughts on the matter.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 19, 2009, 06:07:24 PM Make sure you are completely ok about keeping a scratched carbon (BST or otherwise) wheel. If I were you I would be more inclined to making the shop replace it as well. Try to contact BST directly (www.blackstonetek.com/ContactUs.php (http://) (http://) (http://)) and get their thoughts on the matter. I am no where near being ok with the condition of the wheel. The time it has taken....the entire situation is and has been completely unacceptable for me. My bike has been sitting on stands for over a week now. The back wheel wasn't so bad. Very minor scratch to it that will not stand out at all. I can see it because I am very meticulous... Impatient at this point too; that is why I have started to attempt to install the rear wheel. I sent an email to BST a few moments ago asking there advice. I also asked them about the rear wheel install as I am unable to get it to set at all without tapping the spacers all the way down. Otherwise I cannot get past the housing for the brake. With the spacers all the way down the bolts for the sprocket carrier hit the swing arm. Thanks for the advice. Very good idea. I am sure that I will have the shop replace both wheels. IMO I should get a free set of tires out of the deal too. Hopeful my next post here will be tomorrow with this worked out. [roll] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Triple J on July 19, 2009, 06:32:29 PM Did your wheel come with the spacer?
From Motowheels: S2R/S4R/S4RS : The SSSA monster has a slightly different offset than the other applications. BST now includes a spacer for batter caliper and swingarm clearance for the 5 spoke wheel. If you are ordering these wheels for a S2R, S4R or S4RS, please select the S2R/S4R/S4RS option. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 19, 2009, 06:47:50 PM Did your wheel come with the spacer? From Motowheels: S2R/S4R/S4RS : The SSSA monster has a slightly different offset than the other applications. BST now includes a spacer for batter caliper and swingarm clearance for the 5 spoke wheel. If you are ordering these wheels for a S2R, S4R or S4RS, please select the S2R/S4R/S4RS option. Yes, it actually came with three. One on each side and one that sits before the sprocket carrier. I'm still not sure why there is one between the carrier and the wheel seems pointless... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Raux on July 19, 2009, 06:56:56 PM i just read this whole thread and i can't believe you are keeping a brand new $1750 chipped Carbon fiber wheel. NO WAY would i let them get away with that. if it took 3 months i would demand new rims (in the meantime i'd have stock rims mounted so i could ride though)
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DrDesmo on July 19, 2009, 07:03:36 PM i just read this whole thread and i can't believe you are keeping a brand new $1750 chipped Carbon fiber wheel. NO WAY would i let them get away with that. if it took 3 months i would demand new rims (in the meantime i'd have stock rims mounted so i could ride though) +1 Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 19, 2009, 08:26:16 PM Here is a shot of the back wheel. You have to get pretty close to see the mark. I agree though I am going to have them replace it also. I would put my stockers back on, but that would mean buying a new chain...frankly I cannot afford that right now. So looks like I will be without my Duc for a while. It was wishful thinking attempting to mount this one...
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/tonkoshala/07192009462.jpg) And a different angle on the front. (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/tonkoshala/07192009463.jpg) Painful isn't it! Real pregnant dog right now is the weather here in Memphis has been perfect for riding. low to mid 80s for the past week and days to come. >:( Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Raux on July 19, 2009, 08:54:49 PM Here is a shot of the back wheel. You have to get pretty close to see the mark. I agree though I am going to have them replace it also. I would put my stockers back on, but that would mean buying a new chain...frankly I cannot afford that right now. So looks like I will be without my Duc for a while. i'm confused? why a new chain? sorry. just trying to get you back on the road! Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 19, 2009, 09:01:53 PM i'm confused? why a new chain? sorry. just trying to get you back on the road! Well another chain...I already bought one for these wheels. My old chain was shot. I don't want to use the new chain/sprockets on my old wheels. Unless I find out that it is going to take a long while to get this solved. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Raux on July 19, 2009, 09:22:58 PM Well another chain...I already bought one for these wheels. My old chain was shot. I don't want to use the new chain/sprockets on my old wheels. Unless I find out that it is going to take a long while to get this solved. shouldn't be a big deal to use the new chain and sprockets on the current rims and then swap them to the new rims. anyone else want to help me get him on the road! Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: mitt on July 20, 2009, 07:59:16 AM Not to be an ass, but you dropped 3k on wheels and don't can't afford a $100 sprocket?
I would be ridding my bike with old wheels while waiting for the new bsts. mitt Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 20, 2009, 01:03:44 PM Not to be an ass, but you dropped 3k on wheels and don't can't afford a $100 sprocket? I would be ridding my bike with old wheels while waiting for the new bsts. mitt Mitt...the wife said not more money on the bike for a while. Not so much a matter of cash that I can't afford ;) Would it be ok to swap out a chain and sprocket? Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DrDesmo on July 20, 2009, 01:09:39 PM Mitt...the wife said not more money on the bike for a while. Not so much a matter of cash that I can't afford ;) Would it be ok to swap out a chain and sprocket? I have stock spockets from my S4R you can have for the cost of shipping, they're in brand new condition. PM me if you want them. Adam Edit: Thought you had an S2R/S4R/S4RS ... DOH, these won't fit :-[ Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Rufus120 on July 20, 2009, 05:04:47 PM You should let them know that you are going to be charging them "a lack of being able to ride" interest from the day your wife picked them up. Maybe 20-30 %. Just like any big company would do. ;)
Good luck with this mess. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: kopfjäger on July 20, 2009, 05:22:02 PM If you need a new chain to get on the road with your old wheels. Give me the phone # of the shop where you want to get it, and all you'll have to do is go pick it up. ;)
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 21, 2009, 12:45:43 PM If you need a new chain to get on the road with your old wheels. Give me the phone # of the shop where you want to get it, and all you'll have to do is go pick it up. ;) Wow thank you, but I couldn't let you do that... I spoke with the manager today. They are going to replace both wheels. Said I should have them within a weeks time. He told me that a lady from corporate is suppose to call me with the details. [thumbsup] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: kopfjäger on July 21, 2009, 01:04:55 PM Wow thank you, but I couldn't let you do that... I spoke with the manager today. They are going to replace both wheels. Said I should have them within a weeks time. He told me that a lady from corporate is suppose to call me with the details. [thumbsup] Awesome [thumbsup] ;D [moto] Where ya gonna get them mounted? ;) Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 01:30:32 PM Awesome [thumbsup] ;D [moto] Where ya gonna get them mounted? ;) Better question: Sooooooooooooooo, whatcha plannin on doing with the other wheels? Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 21, 2009, 05:13:35 PM I am thinking I will get a bunch of grease and pushing the baby's on myself ;D
Nakid if they let me keep them you will be first on the list :) Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: NAKID on July 21, 2009, 06:15:10 PM ;D
That'd be great, but I'm thinking that if the wheels were going to go on your S4, they won't fit my bike. But, they would make an awesome deal for someone who doesn't mind a few blemishes... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 21, 2009, 06:22:16 PM ;D That'd be great, but I'm thinking that if the wheels were going to go on your S4, they won't fit my bike. But, they would make an awesome deal for someone who doesn't mind a few blemishes... I believe the front will work ;) Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: ducpainter on July 21, 2009, 06:23:34 PM With a different set of forks...
they'll fit my bike. ;D Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: al@sktc on July 21, 2009, 08:02:07 PM i wonder if you could send the old wheels back to bst to get refurbished? they are still structurally sound.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 21, 2009, 08:13:56 PM i wonder if you could send the old wheels back to bst to get refurbished? they are still structurally sound. The company is in South Africa. I'm willing bet you could have them resurfaced somewhere in the US for less. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: KEH on July 24, 2009, 04:36:05 AM If they're buying you new rims don't you think they'd want to keep the old ones? Essentially, they paid for them. Have they commented on this at all?
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: NAKID on July 24, 2009, 04:36:45 AM If they're buying you new rims don't you think they'd want to keep the old ones? Essentially, they paid for them. Have they commented on this at all? Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 24, 2009, 05:53:02 AM If they're buying you new rims don't you think they'd want to keep the old ones? Essentially, they paid for them. Have they commented on this at all? I already had arrangements for an even swap DrDesmosedici to trade for a cyclecat GP shifter. That is if I can come up for the money for shipping :P If not the wheels will be auctioned off here on DMF as soon as I get my new ones. [drink] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Triple J on July 24, 2009, 06:13:10 AM I'd be extremely surprised if they didn't want to keep the damaged ones. They have the right to since they bought them.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 29, 2009, 09:27:18 AM Update...
Hope you guys know I was joking about the sell of the old wheels. If ya look back several posts I made reference to the fact that I am aware they will get the damaged wheels. Ok so talked to someon yesterday at the corporate office. They are having me send a pic of the damage to motowheels (where I purchased). They will decide if the wheels can have a new clear coat applied for repair. I would think no. You can feel the fibers when you run your finger around the wheel, but I could be wrong. Hope not but.... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: redxblack on July 29, 2009, 10:29:17 AM It's been about 3 weeks since this all started and they're talking about repairs via pics. I think they're jerking you around.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Triple J on July 29, 2009, 10:33:17 AM It's been about 3 weeks since this all started and they're talking about repairs via pics. I think they're jerking you around. +1 You should have rims by now. Let them worry about repairing them and re-selling them. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: hihhs on July 29, 2009, 11:19:47 AM +1 You should have rims by now. Let them worry about repairing them and re-selling them. Absolutely! You didn't buy a repaired wheel you bought brand new, big-dollar BSTs. Don't let the bastards f^*& you about! Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on July 29, 2009, 04:43:45 PM Lawyer up man.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DrDesmo on July 29, 2009, 04:45:01 PM Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: redxblack on July 29, 2009, 06:37:15 PM Even if you go with Lionel Hutz, get a lawyer on them or file in small claims.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: pitbull03 on July 29, 2009, 07:48:54 PM Lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer lawyer
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Rufus120 on July 29, 2009, 08:46:06 PM ^^^^ I think that guy is trying to tell you something...........
I wonder what it could be?............ [cheeky] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on July 31, 2009, 11:14:48 AM KICK ASS!!! I got a call from the lady at the corporate office few minutes ago. She told me to take the wheels to the local store. They are going to dismount the tires and ship the wheels back to motowheels. Motowheels is going to mount and balance a new set of tires on new BSTs and ship them back to me! [beer]
I get a free set of tires out of the mishap. I cool with that :) Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: redxblack on July 31, 2009, 11:22:43 AM depending on the tires, it might have been worth the wait. But if you're happy, that's great news!
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: junior varsity on July 31, 2009, 11:23:35 AM whoa. i did not expect you to come out better for all this mess. not at all.
i'd say congratulations. but not until the wheels are on your bike with new "spare" tires sitting next to them, with pics to prove. vocal fat lady and all that. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: hihhs on July 31, 2009, 11:26:46 AM KICK ASS!!! I got a call from the lady at the corporate office few minutes ago. She told me to take the wheels to the local store. They are going to dismount the tires and ship the wheels back to motowheels. Motowheels is going to mount and balance a new set of tires on new BSTs and ship them back to me! [beer] I get a free set of tires out of the mishap. I cool with that :) Man, I have been following this thread since you first posted. Even my wife knows about it. I am so glad that it worked out for you and that they "did-the-right-thing"!!! [beer] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: rockaduc on July 31, 2009, 12:41:08 PM Sweet! Congrats on the patience and persevering!!!!
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: psycledelic on July 31, 2009, 12:54:55 PM Cool deal. Much better outcome than I was anticipating. Says something about CycleGear also. They are coughing up a lot of cash for their mistake.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: corndog67 on July 31, 2009, 01:02:41 PM Wow, it looks like Cycle Gear is getting better and better.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DucHead on July 31, 2009, 03:01:59 PM Wow, it looks like Cycle Gear is getting better and better. +1 I was thinking props to Cycle Gear.My local Cycle Gear has provided good service. Their prices aren't great, but they make up for it in service. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Randimus Maximus on July 31, 2009, 03:32:55 PM glad to hear the positive results.
and props to you for maintaining your cool throughout this ordeal. sometimes, cooler heads do prevail. [beer] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: redxblack on July 31, 2009, 06:11:55 PM Randall is right. I think I might have been down there threatening to eat someone's baby. Good up on you.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: kopfjäger on July 31, 2009, 06:41:23 PM Excellent [thumbsup]
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on July 31, 2009, 07:33:39 PM I think I might have been down there threatening to eat someone's baby. Baby, the other white meat. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: al@sktc on August 03, 2009, 05:09:51 AM great news! i didn't think it was going to turn out well but, i'm glad it did. [clap]
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Mash on August 03, 2009, 12:46:38 PM Randall is right. I think I might have been down there threatening to eat someone's baby. Good up on you. I like kids, I just can't eat a whole one. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: redxblack on August 03, 2009, 05:37:32 PM Condiments are the key. It keeps your jaws from getting too tired too fast.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: psycledelic on August 03, 2009, 06:45:26 PM +1 I was thinking props to Cycle Gear. My local Cycle Gear has provided good service. Their prices aren't great, but they make up for it in service. Really, the Cycle Gear in my area has killer prices. And, if you show them an advertisement, they will usually match prices (or at least come close enough that it isn't worth dealing with mailorder). I don't think I would let them touch my bike though (for fear of getting it back painted hot pink and with a 20 inch swing arm extension). Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on August 12, 2009, 10:46:10 PM Got a call today. My wheels should be shipped tomorrow. Fresh set of Pilot Road 2CT balanced by Motowheels [clap]
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Betty on August 12, 2009, 11:51:03 PM I have been following this thread from the start ... I always have fears of someone spoiling things when in for maintenance.
So, fantastic news! That light is now in clear sight and shining brightly at the end of the tunnel. Must have been extremely frustrating time ... but ride time is fast appraoching. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: RetroSBK on August 13, 2009, 06:46:29 AM Cycle Gear is pretty awesome... They have sponsored us for years, and i have never had a problem sending clients there. They stand behind the work they do. They also will always have the lowest prices, as they have the most buying power in the country. I think they are upwards of 120 retail locations now.
You exposed one of the issues with CF wheels that need to be clear coated! It kinda sucks, but the non clear coated CF wheels tend to run a LOT more money! Like $5500 plus for the pair. Glad to hear you got your wheels hooked up! Will Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: redxblack on August 13, 2009, 08:54:15 AM please post pics once the wheels are on the bike!
[thumbsup] [moto] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: MonsterMan1036 on August 13, 2009, 10:22:37 AM You exposed one of the issues with CF wheels that need to be clear coated! It kinda sucks, but the non clear coated CF wheels tend to run a LOT more money! Like $5500 plus for the pair. Will What other CF wheels are out there besides BST or Dymag? Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on August 13, 2009, 07:31:23 PM please post pics once the wheels are on the bike! [thumbsup] [moto] You know it mane! I just got a tracking number they are pose to be here on here on the 20th! ;D [clap] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on August 20, 2009, 10:45:34 AM BST....
I just told the UPS fella that I love him ;D Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: al@sktc on August 20, 2009, 10:51:33 AM awesome. get your wheels on!
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: ducatiz on August 20, 2009, 10:53:14 AM update the original post so ppl know that things worked out....
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on August 20, 2009, 02:14:23 PM [thumbsup]
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/tonkoshala/08202009486.jpg) Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: OneWheelDrive on August 20, 2009, 02:20:03 PM [beer] Congrats! Looks like the hawtness!
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on August 20, 2009, 06:23:25 PM SHAZAM!!
Now just watch out on the first turn you take. The curb comes up on you much quicker than you will expect it to. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: somegirl on August 20, 2009, 07:34:46 PM Nice!! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on August 23, 2009, 12:56:02 AM (http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/tonkoshala/08212009492.jpg) [bang] [bang] [bang]
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/tonkoshala/08212009493.jpg) These wheels so far are more trouble than they are worth......I got to ride them for 15 min. Not sure what the make the beast with two backs has happened, but the saga continues.....took the bike to the shop this time.....will know more tuesday. Everything was sound before I pulled off....double checked and now this??? >:( >:( Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Raux on August 23, 2009, 01:26:21 AM sorry to hear your troubles.
hopefully it will get fixed soon enough and you can enjoy the bike again. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Q777 on August 23, 2009, 03:02:35 AM :o
Do you have an initial assessment of the damage? Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Triple J on August 23, 2009, 07:01:00 AM So what exactly are we looking at?
I can see on the right side that the speedo sensor is fubar, and you have no outer brake pad...where the hell did it go?? What's wrong on the left side?? Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on August 23, 2009, 09:18:35 AM The cush drive became partially separated on the left side. Do you know if the shop/person that installed them used the conical spacer on the left side, assuming it was provided?
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: junior varsity on August 23, 2009, 10:08:59 AM This looks like a install problem...
Wheels in the stock form are the easiest things to just hold up and bolt right on. BST's should really be not that all different. Some spacers might be the only things different from stock, I'd think. I'd like to hear what the verdict is. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: corey on August 24, 2009, 06:38:05 AM SIGH.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: GLantern on August 24, 2009, 07:14:25 AM good luck keep us posted
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on August 31, 2009, 07:03:43 PM Update.....
I MISS MY BIKE!!!!!!!!!! :( Waiting to hear back from BST. Dealer cost for all the damaged parts is in the park of $600. Hopefully will hear in the next day or two... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: MadDuck on August 31, 2009, 10:08:08 PM Who did the actual installation of the wheels onto the bike? You? Your friend? A shop? I'm not asking about the tire installation on the wheel but rather the bolting on of the wheel/tire onto the bike.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on August 31, 2009, 10:24:58 PM I did the install...
The problem was from what my mechanic says was that the spacers where installed wrong. He said the right and left side were mixed up. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on September 01, 2009, 12:24:34 AM Which spacer did you put on what side? How did the chain-line look after you had the wheel on and locked down?
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: MadDuck on September 01, 2009, 07:44:38 AM Yep. That's the kind of stuff you can't take for granted that everything is proper right out of the box. You have to check, check again and when everything is done you have to check one more time, at least. Plus, you have to know what you are checking for. Sounds kind of dumb in one way but the modification game can be gut wrenching enough to make you almost paranoid.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on September 01, 2009, 08:21:05 AM Sounds kind of dumb in one way but the modification game can be gut wrenching enough to make you almost paranoid. I have no idea what you are talking about... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Porsche Monkey on September 01, 2009, 08:33:51 AM Why does the swingarm look cracked in the left side pic?
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: junior varsity on September 01, 2009, 08:50:37 AM Looks nicked to me, my alu swinger has some pretty good wear marks and scratches on it to. that's a bit deeper of a gouge, but it might be nothing more than just that.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: psycledelic on September 01, 2009, 10:57:36 AM Sounds kind of dumb in one way but the modification game can be gut wrenching enough to make you almost paranoid. It's best not to think about it. And just ignore the new sounds your bike makes in the corners. Been following this thread from the get go (along with my guys at work -from over my shoulder). We all feel bad for you tonkashala. I hope you get this straight soon! Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on September 01, 2009, 05:44:34 PM Which spacer did you put on what side? How did the chain-line look after you had the wheel on and locked down? I didn't put any spacer on. They came with them install from BST. Everything was sound before I road the bike. I triple checked it. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on September 01, 2009, 05:47:44 PM Looks nicked to me, my alu swinger has some pretty good wear marks and scratches on it to. that's a bit deeper of a gouge, but it might be nothing more than just that. It's not. It was that way when I bought it. Actually use to look worse I used a grinder to smooth it out. Not sure what the cause was, but it's not an issue. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on September 01, 2009, 09:35:21 PM I didn't put any spacer on. They came with them install from BST. Everything was sound before I road the bike. I triple checked it. If the rear set-up on your bike is anything like mine then you should have had a conical spacer that went on the left (I think) side. The bike is in the garage at the moment, so I can't easily check. Stupid question here, but I assume that you did not have any extraneous spacers laying around after the instal? Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on September 07, 2009, 09:50:49 PM If the rear set-up on your bike is anything like mine then you should have had a conical spacer that went on the left (I think) side. The bike is in the garage at the moment, so I can't easily check. Stupid question here, but I assume that you did not have any extraneous spacers laying around after the instal? Sorry it took me a while to respond. Not to happy with the Duc presently :D Nope nothing left over.... I should hopefully be back on the road by the end of the week. Pending shipping and finding a decent deal on a rear caliper. I've ordered all of the other parts. BST would not cover the damage. It's looking like I will be able to get everything replaced (used of course) for around $200. Well I've found everything so far with the exception of the caliper. Spent $125 for all of it which I think is a pretty good deal. <sigh> Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on September 08, 2009, 06:57:11 AM Just picked up a caliper for $79! should be back on the road real soon! <fingers crossed> [moto]
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Shifty on September 09, 2009, 09:04:39 AM Looks effin hot even if it's not on the road. Good luck man, chin up! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on September 17, 2009, 07:20:12 AM Still waiting....seems there is still a problem with the spacers.The brake will not fit the rotor this time. My mechanic is suppose to be getting in touch with Motowheels to find out what's up. If sollution comes soon he is going to make a custom spacer to get me on the road. Anyone else with BSTs run into problems with theirs?
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on September 17, 2009, 07:32:45 AM As I said before, the only problem I had was with the front wheel, and that was only because I was accidently shipped the wrong wheel. And actually, I should say accidently shipped as BST had advertised that wheel as the correct fit for my bike. The original rear wheel, for the SC, went on like greased butter and so did the front once I had all the 999 parts.
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Shifty on September 18, 2009, 06:14:21 AM Well after reading the last couple posts... are you SURE they sent you the proper wheel? :-\
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: Ivan on September 18, 2009, 06:54:14 AM Anyone else with BSTs run into problems with theirs? My wheels went on with no problems... Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on September 18, 2009, 07:05:30 AM Well after reading the last couple posts... are you SURE they sent you the proper wheel? :-\ Yes. I will know more next week. Everything at this point seems to be working good with an exception of the brake line. Had to order an new one due to the other melting internally. I will hopefully have a solid explanation as to what the matter was when I pick the bike up. Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on September 28, 2009, 12:12:08 PM I'm back on the road! 8)
It was a problem with the spacers. So all and all what I came out on top with the tires from the original mishap I broke even cash wise. Frankly IDK anymore. I'm just glad to be riding again! Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: tonkoshala on September 28, 2009, 01:41:12 PM Just took it for my first ride since I've gotten back. Could only go for about 20 mins, but third gear wheelies are fun! Second gear use to take a little effort to pull one and now it takes effort to keep it on the ground! I have to say I am very impressed with the overall better performance. I had no idea the wheels could improve it this much. Cannot wait to get out on the twisties tomorrow! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: kopfjäger on September 28, 2009, 02:13:35 PM Glad you finally got everything resolved. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: swampduc on September 28, 2009, 03:37:14 PM [clap] [clap] [clap]
Glad this came to a happy resolution. We need a detailed ride report tomorrow - for those of us who may also go the BST route [evil] Title: Re: !?()*&#@$&!!!!!! Post by: DRKWNG on September 28, 2009, 10:29:27 PM ^ Don't wait, just do it.
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