Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates

Started by ducatiz, June 09, 2009, 12:56:37 PM

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ducatiz

Quote from: Ducatamount on May 08, 2012, 05:18:25 AM
http://www.accessnorton.com/ethonal-proof-tank-sealer-myth-t13056.html
Some good info and links here.

that's a real test of my non-english-as-a-first-language reading skills....

the issue is application and curing.  if you don't prep the surface right, or don't mix it right, or don't let it cure properly, it will fail.  once it's dried, it's pretty much inert. 

i have a sample piece of nylon coated in caswell that i dunked into 50/50 ethanol/gasoline (effectively making it >50% by volume).

after 3 months of submersion, the gas/ethanol separated, but the coating did not change.  it wasn't soft or anything. 

unfortunately, the process is prone to human error.
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K3V1N

Question.

I'm just about to order caswells for a new tank. But I read in a post somewhere about fuel additive and also about a lot of people doing a bad job coating their tanks. If I was to be good about adding fuel additive do you think I could get say 7 or 8 years out of a tank before signs of expansion?


NorDog

What's going on with the tanks on new Ducatis?

Are we still dealing with plastic tanks that will swell?
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DucNaked

Quote from: NorDog on May 09, 2012, 11:46:09 AM
What's going on with the tanks on new Ducatis?

Are we still dealing with plastic tanks that will swell?
My M1100 is made frame the same PA6 as the older bikes.  [thumbsdown]
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HotIce

Quote from: NorDog on May 09, 2012, 11:46:09 AM
What's going on with the tanks on new Ducatis?

Are we still dealing with plastic tanks that will swell?
My 2012 1100 EVO, bought it in Oct 2011, did not show any trace of swell so far.
Keeping finger crossed  ;D

Narflar

I got my 1100 Evo last year and let it sit over the winter with a full tank just to see what would happen (yay warranty).  The tank seemed fine.  But the panels and mounts seem designed to allow for the the tank to move.  So maybe it is expanding but it doesn't really matter due them designing around it. 
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ducpainter

Quote from: Narflar on May 10, 2012, 05:43:23 PM
I got my 1100 Evo last year and let it sit over the winter with a full tank just to see what would happen (yay warranty).  The tank seemed fine.  But the panels and mounts seem designed to allow for the the tank to move.  So maybe it is expanding but it doesn't really matter due them designing around it. 
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Quote from: polivo on November 16, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
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HotIce

That's OK with me. I mean, probably the tank in my car expands too, but as long as it does not cause cosmetic or structural damages, I do not see much of a reason to complain.
I have not yet tried to remove it, so I am not sure if the eventual expansion caused some binding problems with the frame.

K3V1N

So I just got the call that my new tank is in. I'm going to caswell it but should I order the original or the red die version?

77south

I want to thank everyone who has worked so hard on this issue.  Thanks to your hard work and time and lawyers, my local dealership is replacing the tank on my 2006 monster 620d with no fuss.

ducatiz

Quote from: K3V1N on May 15, 2012, 07:41:31 AM
So I just got the call that my new tank is in. I'm going to caswell it but should I order the original or the red die version?

I have "heard" the red version is just a dyed version.  Just give them a call or email and see what they think.

Plenty of people are using the old version just fine.

Prep is the key.
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ducpainter

Quote from: ducatiz on May 15, 2012, 07:49:29 AM
I have "heard" the red version is just a dyed version.  Just give them a call or email and see what they think.

Plenty of people are using the old version just fine.

Prep is the key.
That's what they say on their site.

I just ordered the red version to try on a multi tank I have to coat.
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K3V1N

Thanks for the quick response, since you guys seem to be very experienced coating tanks can you point me to what you think is one of the better writes. My questions are the normal ones, best way to clean the tank and how thin to make the caswell. Thanks again