Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates

[Wedge]

Thanks!  I'm going to get mine coated ASAP!  I'm really surprised there aren't more after-market options that look like the original.  Does anyone know if Star Tron ethenol treatment will prevent the damage or al least decelerate its effects? 

[ducatiz]

You can coat it even after fueling it. It's just a matter of letting it dry out.

yes BUT..

You need to do more than let it dry out.  The gasoline has to be completely removed.. see my instructions in the other thread for how to thoroughly rinse it of fuel.

Thanks!  I'm going to get mine coated ASAP!  I'm really surprised there aren't more after-market options that look like the original.  Does anyone know if Star Tron ethenol treatment will prevent the damage or al least decelerate its effects? 

No.  Most fuel treatments do not prevent separation or water ingestion, they just give the fuel an additive which makes it burn ok.  It will still wick water and your tank will still absorb it.

Most additives are a mixture of ethanol, mineral spirits, kerosene and a host of other -enes that do nothing but raise the octane a little.

[The Bearded Duc]

You can coat it even after fueling it. It's just a matter of letting it dry out.

Thanks

Wasn't completely positive.

[Wedge]

The CA Cycleworks tank would solve the problem forever, is affordable but doesn't look like the original, take a look:



I contacted them about making a replacement tank that looked like the OM tank and here's what they said:


Thanks for writing! The tank we have for your bike now, the MTT43, will probably be the only aftermarket tank available for the early Monsters for under $1000.

If you get 60 to 100 money in hand for deposit people, I can make a copy of the stock tank that won't change shape and would be emissions legal. Ducati owners haven't cared that much about new tanks since the HM69 project, where 60 people stepped up and made that tank happen. A mold is ~$100k and without at least $100k of tanks sold up front, it is fiscally stupid for anyone to mass produce them...

So...it looks like we need 60-100 guys with "Cash-in-Hand" and that's just for the S2R tanks....but the solution would be permanent!  What do you guys think? 

[Wedge]

OK...I'm an idiot!  just figured out who Chris is and how involved he is in all this... is there a crowd-funding project for the S2R???

[krista]

OK...I'm an idiot!  just figured out who Chris is and how involved he is in all this... is there a crowd-funding project for the S2R???

No, we've got one for the MTS tanks, so I wouldn't pick this up until that tank's mold was being made (which actually will be "soon").

If some graphics designers guys want to start working on a Kickstarter page, that'd be cool. They rejected my inquiry for the HM45 mid-size tank project but I think it's because I didn't put enough production into making a slick project page.  We're using invested.in for the MTS tank, but I think the exposure would be better on kickstarter.

Thanks,
Chris

[SpikeC]

 Here is an annoying question- how much work would it take ( if at all possible) to put a s*R tank onto a M1100?  Anything is possible with enough determination I would think.....

[The Bearded Duc]

Here is an annoying question- how much work would it take ( if at all possible) to put a s*R tank onto a M1100?  Anything is possible with enough determination I would think.....

Without knowing all of the technical specifics, I would say a lot of work. The "new" monsters have a bladder style tank that partially rides under the seat correct? And I would imagine all of the hook-ups are completely different.

Also, why would you want to do that? With the new monster skins you're covering up any possible bloating blemishes.

I don't have a new monster, so I really don't know why I chimed in. I'm gonna go sit in a corner.

[krista]

@bearded: CannedIce here has a 696 and your thoughts are pretty correct.

The EFI stuff is mostly the same, but the locations of everything else is different. Like the airbox, seat, etc etc.

[SpikeC]

 Why I would want to do that is because I love the tank that those guys are making! To me it looks like a tank should look, as well as having a bit more capacity.
 Tha air box could be deep sixed for pods, wires can be moved around, as well as hoses, and the seat interface can be delt with in various was.

[The Bearded Duc]

Why I would want to do that is because I love the tank that those guys are making! To me it looks like a tank should look, as well as having a bit more capacity.
 Tha air box could be deep sixed for pods, wires can be moved around, as well as hoses, and the seat interface can be delt with in various was.

If by "those guys" you mean CA-Cycleworks and Chris Kelly then that's my misunderstanding. He's a great guy and he's working miracles for the tank expansion issues and his tanks really are beautiful but the tanks they are making are not just for the S*R series bikes, so when you asked about an S*R tank I automatically assumed a stock tank from an S*R series bike.

Now I know that isn't what you meant so, again, I'm gonna go sit in a corner.

[krista]

If by "those guys" you mean CA-Cycleworks and Chris Kelly then that's my misunderstanding. He's a great guy and he's working miracles for the tank expansion issues and his tanks really are beautiful but the tanks they are making are not just for the S*R series bikes, so when you asked about an S*R tank I automatically assumed a stock tank from an S*R series bike.

Actually, the MTT43 tank is a direct, bolt on replacement for S2R Monsters. I've had them on my 2005 S2R800 for years.

Happy times, the MTS tank project got funded, so we're going to work with new technology and plastic for that tank. It will be a blow molded tank and the plastic is designed specifically to work with the latest fuels and pass the most stringent of vapor emissions laws. Once we get through the Multi tank design, we can come back and revisit the thought of making a roundy blobular tank for legacy Monsters.

Chris

[Desert Dust]

I'm getting ready to coat a brand new tank with Caswells, and I have read a great deal of helpful "how to" info here, but I was wondering, what keeps the Caswells from clogging the vent tube inside the gas tank?

[ducpainter]

I'm getting ready to coat a brand new tank with Caswells, and I have read a great deal of helpful "how to" info here, but I was wondering, what keeps the Caswells from clogging the vent tube inside the gas tank?

The tubes are closed in the tank.

They run from the cap area to the tank bottom.

There's no way the sealer can clog them.

[Desert Dust]

Makes sense. Thanks.