Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates

[red baron]

Nakid, we do live very close to CA Cycleworks.

[NAKID]

Nakid, we do live very close to CA Cycleworks.

Are you refering to their larger tank option? As far as I know it's still not paintable...

[SpikeC]

 You could always cover one with that thin carbon fiber pattern film.......

[NAKID]

You could always cover one with that thin carbon fiber pattern film.......

Yeah, uh, no. I don't like fake CF. I like the look of my stock color (silver/black). I like the styling of the CCW tank, and of course the capacity, but I'd like to be able to paint it...

[twolanefun]

One thing to think about. There is push back on ethanol fuel at National Level, several bills in both House and Senate to repeal the mandate. Now I don't know what chance it has, especially with so many states having some form of ethanol production. But I do think there is an opportunity to get the Premium blend set aside as an ethanol free blend, there are some states that have done this already. So I encourage you all to start pushing in your states for this to happen. I'm trying to work it in Virginia, have made contact with several legislators and may actually get some traction since they see the increase in corn prices, thus feed prices, as a threat to hog/chicken farming. - Gene

[ducpainter]

Let's try not to get into the politics of ethanol...

OK? I'd hate to have to lock this.

Doesn't matter anyway. PA-6 will absorb water whether ethanol is present or not.

Water will always be present in fuel and containers that carry fuel.

[twolanefun]

187 pages of problems and discussion of coating the tanks and one post suggesting the pursuit of an alternative, alebit long shot, and that is a problem? Really? There is nothing political about my post in fact I'm trying to stay in the middle of the debate, I don't care about those on either side, setting aside premium is in the middle and one that might get some traction if a few of us pursure it. geez. - Gene

[kopfjäger]

187 pages of problems and discussion of coating the tanks and one post suggesting the pursuit of an alternative, alebit long shot, and that is a problem? Really? There is nothing political about my post in fact I'm trying to stay in the middle of the debate, I don't care about those on either side, setting aside premium is in the middle and one that might get some traction if a few of us pursure it. geez. - Gene

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=VA

[ducatiz]

Water will always be present in fuel and containers that carry fuel.

Yes, however ethanol absorbs ambient moisture at a rate about 20x that of pure gasoline.

[red baron]

Are you refering to their larger tank option? As far as I know it's still not paintable...

Would coating it not solve the issue?

[kopfjäger]

Would coating it not solve the issue?

The outside of the tank is not paintable.

[Desert Dust]

http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=VA

Great source of information. I had to laugh when I clicked on California: 8 ethanol free stations in the entire dam state. Guess I had to coat my tank.   

[ducpainter]

187 pages of problems and discussion of coating the tanks and one post suggesting the pursuit of an alternative, alebit long shot, and that is a problem? Really? There is nothing political about my post in fact I'm trying to stay in the middle of the debate, I don't care about those on either side, setting aside premium is in the middle and one that might get some traction if a few of us pursure it. geez. - Gene

When you start discussing  the House, Senate, and legislation, it automatically become politics Gene.

Politics gets threads locked here.

Just sayin'

Yes, however ethanol absorbs ambient moisture at a rate about 20x that of pure gasoline.

True, but ambient moisture will condense inside a tank that isn't full whether there is ethanol present or not, and there is water in every fuel storage tank in the world. I agree that the ethanol exacerbates the problem, but the real issue is the nylon.

I just think that people should know that ethanol free fuel is not a guarantee their tank won't expand.

[twolanefun]

I just think that people should know that ethanol free fuel is not a guarantee their tank won't expand.

That is probably right but empirical evidence from those who have never used fuel with ethanol content is that their tanks are fine, same is true with the XR1200 BTW. - Gene

[Curmudgeon]

That is probably right but empirical evidence from those who have never used fuel with ethanol content is that their tanks are fine, same is true with the XR1200 BTW. - Gene

BTW, if you put your thoughts together on the EPA E-15 hearing the AMA asked us to attend in Arlington and post those on another forum, please leave a link on this thread.

P.P.S. Strikes me as highly political to disallow the discussion of the evils of ethanol. Never realized the AMA was a partisan organization..., and I've been a member since Malcolm Forbes got the Garden State Parkway opened to motorcycles in 1974!