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« Reply #450 on: March 03, 2024, 01:05:37 PM »
If I clean the rust off he underside of the cab and i sprayed the epoxy primer I used on my frame-

-would it handle an imperfectly clean panel?  I doubt I can get all the rust

-would it play nice with rubberized undercoating?
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« Reply #451 on: March 03, 2024, 02:02:37 PM »
Quote from: Monsterlover on March 03, 2024, 01:05:37 PM
If I clean the rust off he underside of the cab and i sprayed the epoxy primer I used on my frame-

-would it handle an imperfectly clean panel?  I doubt I can get all the rust

-would it play nice with rubberized undercoating?
I'm going to assume you're asking me... Grin

Any rust that's there, left untreated, will continue to grow. That's why they call it cancer.

If it were me, I'd spray the rust with SEM Rust-Mort to try and convert the rust to magnetite, and use something other than epoxy, because that product will cause poor adhesion for the epoxy. Get a urethane primer, which will work fine with the undercoating, and the acidic surface left by the Rust-Mort.
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« Reply #452 on: March 03, 2024, 02:15:43 PM »
I'll stop by the paint store tomorrow and see if they can hook me up with something in an aerosol can. I don't have a very large area that needs treated.

So this rust mort, can I just spray it right on the rust? Or do I need to get rid of as much rust as possible before I begin and anything I miss the product will just take care of?
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« Reply #453 on: March 03, 2024, 02:16:16 PM »
She looks naked!

PXL_20240303_221124252 by Kevin Ames, on Flickr
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« Reply #454 on: March 03, 2024, 02:22:50 PM »
Any loose scale you can remove is a plus. If it turns black after the treatment it was a success. Problem is if you turn the surface to magnetite and there's red rust underneath it won't work.

Make sense?
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« Reply #455 on: March 03, 2024, 02:28:42 PM »
make the beast with two backsin rust.

I'm sure I'll have more questions
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« Reply #456 on: March 03, 2024, 02:32:24 PM »
Ask away...
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« Reply #457 on: March 04, 2024, 08:32:57 AM »
The trick is to crawl underneath it and knock everything loose with some high speed wire wheel or some such until all that stuff lands in your hair and your eyes, at which point you'll know you're done.

Then have some ribs.

There a good way to fill to master cylinders?

I did like the way some VW cars split the dual master-each portion got a front and a rear wheel. That way if you lost half....you'd have 50% stopping power, as opposed to around 90 or...10.
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« Reply #458 on: March 04, 2024, 11:53:18 AM »
Quote from: Popeye the Sailor on March 04, 2024, 08:32:57 AM
I did like the way some VW cars split the dual master-each portion got a front and a rear wheel. That way if you lost half....you'd have 50% stopping power, as opposed to around 90 or...10.

I imagine you'd want to set that up as LF/RR and RF/LR?
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« Reply #459 on: March 04, 2024, 12:05:56 PM »
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I imagine you'd want to set that up as LF/RR and RF/LR?

Probably, unless you're racing Nascar.

That is what they did, though.
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« Reply #460 on: March 04, 2024, 12:08:32 PM »
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on March 04, 2024, 11:53:18 AM
I imagine you'd want to set that up as LF/RR and RF/LR?

I'm not sure how that would work for me since I have to run two different size masters for the front and rear. Cool concept though.
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« Reply #461 on: March 04, 2024, 12:17:39 PM »
Quote from: Monsterlover on March 04, 2024, 12:08:32 PM
I'm not sure how that would work for me since I have to run two different size masters for the front and rear. Cool concept though.

Exactly my thoughts.  Different pressure F/R.  My concern if it were L/R is the pull to one side or the other that you'd get.
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« Reply #462 on: March 04, 2024, 12:18:38 PM »
Quote from: Monsterlover on March 04, 2024, 12:08:32 PM
I'm not sure how that would work for me since I have to run two different size masters for the front and rear. Cool concept though.

Wouldn't work for you at all, it just came to mind seeing that setup.
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« Reply #463 on: March 04, 2024, 01:21:27 PM »
All front wheel drive cars since the dual master was mandated.
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« Reply #464 on: March 05, 2024, 06:09:14 AM »
Quote from: ducpainter on March 03, 2024, 02:02:37 PM
I'm going to assume you're asking me... Grin

Any rust that's there, left untreated, will continue to grow. That's why they call it cancer.

If it were me, I'd spray the rust with SEM Rust-Mort to try and convert the rust to magnetite, and use something other than epoxy, because that product will cause poor adhesion for the epoxy. Get a urethane primer, which will work fine with the undercoating, and the acidic surface left by the Rust-Mort.

Do you neutralize the Rust-Mort in some way after or just prime right over it?
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