Picked it up last night....
Happy New Owner
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Interior Shot (touchscreen Nav with SYNC)
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Big enough for Haley to stand up between the back seat and the back of the front seat
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Haley Loves riding shotgun (as long as we're still parked...)
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j135/JoshFan1980a/FX4/Truck1.jpg)
Loving it so far. Drives great, SYNC is actually cooler than I thought...
Weird thing though, I count 5 resonators on the intake! WTH?
Hmm, those are looking as cool as some of the initial reports I read. By all accounts, Ford homerun'd this one.
Quote from: yuu on February 28, 2009, 03:57:59 PM
Hmm, those are looking as cool as some of the initial reports I read. By all accounts, Ford homerun'd this one.
it looks to be a great truck if it stays together.
Quote from: derby on February 28, 2009, 04:54:14 PM
it looks to be a great truck if it stays together.
It's a Ford...
trust me...it will stay together.
Congrats and thank you for stimulating the economy [beer]
Nice New England Submariner Tan. Chris.
I think you could give Jbub and BP a run for the title of "So white it hurts".
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 28, 2009, 06:00:52 PM
Nice New England Submariner Tan. Chris.
I think you could give Jbub and BP a run for the title of "So white it hurts".
I'm calling Canada...
and ordering up a blizzard for you. ;D
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2009, 06:04:18 PM
I'm calling Canada...
and ordering up a blizzard for you. ;D
At least I'll be seen if I'm out in it ;D
Chris congrats on the new ride. [thumbsup]
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 28, 2009, 06:07:29 PM
At least I'll be seen if I'm out in it ;D
You're not that tall.
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 28, 2009, 06:07:29 PM
At least I'll be seen if I'm out in it ;D
I must abstain from commenting in this discussion other than to say very nice truck.
(although I am in sunny SW Florida for a week so I might be a slight pale red soon....almost pink).
Quote from: Statler on February 28, 2009, 06:13:43 PM
I must abstain from commenting in this discussion other than to say very nice truck.
(although I am in sunny SW Florida for a week so I might be a slight pale red soon....almost pink).
Subconsciously matching wheels....
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2009, 05:33:14 PM
It's a Ford...
trust me...it will stay together.
3 transmissions in 17K miles on my '04 F150. [roll]
Nakid. Congrats...the sales tax is tax deductible too. Hooray that I waited until 01-02-2009 to purchase.
Quote from: hbliam on February 28, 2009, 06:33:21 PM
3 transmissions in 17K miles on my '04 F150. [roll]
Nakid. Congrats...the sales tax is tax deductible too. Hooray that I waited until 01-02-2009 to purchase.
Bitter, party of one. Your table is ready.
Quote from: hbliam on February 28, 2009, 06:33:21 PM
3 transmissions in 17K miles on my '04 F150. [roll]
Nakid. Congrats...the sales tax is tax deductible too. Hooray that I waited until 01-02-2009 to purchase.
I've been driving Fords all my life.
Never had a bad one that I bought new...
and for the record...
it's not '04 anymore.
Get over it. ;D
cool.
like the color
what ya gonna do when gas goes back up to $3.75/gal?
Quote from: hbliam on February 28, 2009, 06:33:21 PM
3 transmissions in 17K miles on my '04 F150. [roll]
Nakid. Congrats...the sales tax is tax deductible too. Hooray that I waited until 01-02-2009 to purchase.
My 02 just got traded in with a hair under 75k. Litereally NEVER had a problem with it. But, it was a extended cab V6 2WD, it was time for a change....
Quote from: IZ on February 28, 2009, 08:15:28 PM
what ya gonna do when gas goes back up to $3.75/gal?
I still have the bike...
Sorry to point out the obvious.
You would probably be smiling bigger had you went with a Chevy
j/k nice ride.
Never have, never will own a chevy....
What's sync?
i like what they've done with the interior and guages, all things considered.
It's a Microsoft system. It ties in a lot of things, music players, bluetooth devices, navigation, all voice controlled...
Quote from: NAKID on February 28, 2009, 08:26:48 PM
Never have, never will own a chevy....
Bravo. [clap] I'll never own another GM product.
Congrats on the new truck. My '04 F150 FX4 is a keeper, not one issue with it to date, solid as the day I bought it, just change the oil and fill it with gas. [thumbsup]
congrats chris [thumbsup] 8)
and don't worry about your lack of tan,
you've got more color than i do :-\
Nakid what a lovely truck (i'm jealous really) with the price of gas over here in the uk theres no way an ordinary guy like me could afford one so just enjoy [clap]
Keep buying Ford's as i need my pension topping up [thumbsup]
[coffee]
Unless they redesigned the spark plugs for 2009, consider breaking them loose every 20k.
Quote from: =P on March 01, 2009, 07:38:38 AM
Unless they redesigned the spark plugs for 2009, consider breaking them loose every 20k.
Care to be a little more specific?
I have an '08.
The plugs tend to freeze to the heads, stripped threads are the usual result.
Not fun.
Great ride! I have an 04 FX4 with 125k miles on it! Not a single issue.
Congrats! BTW, didnt you just get a new car, or your wife did? damn I need to join the Navy. [cheeky]
Quote from: ducducgooseme on March 01, 2009, 08:05:30 AM
Great ride! I have an 04 FX4 with 125k miles on it! Not a single issue.
Congrats! BTW, didnt you just get a new car, or your wife did? damn I need to join the Navy. [cheeky]
Yeah, she got an 08 Touareg V8. Navy didn't pay for these...
Quote from: Bun-bun on March 01, 2009, 08:03:50 AM
The plugs tend to freeze to the heads, stripped threads are the usual result.
Not fun.
That kinda sucks...
I can't even find the plugs. ;D
In the 5.4 3v engine, the plugs they use have a long neck between the threads and the electrodes. These necks get stuck to the heads. The cause is still a subject of debate. I crack mine loose every 20k and have not had any break yet. They do make some scary noises though. It is well known that if you leave them for more than 60k, then you will probably break a few when you go to change them. Ford has even released a special tool to their dealers for extracting the broken part. Ssometimes they have to pull the heads off to get the chunks out. Ford won't recall them because, according to the manual, you don't have to change them until 100k. However if one goes bad before that or if you happen to like to change them more frequently, it is worth the time to break them loose every 20k and put a bit of antiseize on them. There are details on the recommended procedure (penetrating oil, type of antiseize, etc.) on the f150 forums. Ford just can't get the whole sparkplug thing figured out. I read that the previous generation had a history of blowing plugs right out of the head while driving!
Quote from: =P on March 01, 2009, 11:02:10 AM
In the 5.4 3v engine, the plugs they use have a long neck between the threads and the electrodes. These necks get to stuck to the heads. The cause is still a subject of debate. I break mine loose every 20k and have not had any break yet. They do make some scary noises though. It is well known that if you leave them for more than 60k, then you will probably break a few when you go to change them. Ford has even released a special tool to their dealers for extracting the broken part. Ssometimes they just have to pull the heads. Ford won't recall them because, according to the manual, you don't have to change them until 100k. However if one goes bad or you just like to change them more frequently, it is worth the time to break them loose and put a bit of antiseize on them. There are details on the recommended procedure (penetrating oil, type of antiseize, etc.) on the f150 forums. Ford just can't get the whole sparkplug thing figured out. I read that the previous generation had a history of blowing plugs right out of the head while driving!
I had a coworker who had a plug blow out of the head on his f150 about 3 years ago. Ford fought covering it under warranty too :-\ End result was a new head.
mitt
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on February 28, 2009, 06:39:04 PM
Bitter, party of one. Your table is ready.
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2009, 06:45:11 PM
I've been driving Fords all my life.
Never had a bad one that I bought new...
and for the record...
it's not '04 anymore.
Get over it. ;D
Not bitter. I know I probably got a "bad" one, but why would I kick down another 30K for the privelage to try my luck again? I didn't mention the broken interior parts, the falling out headliner or the poor quality paint. I'm giving Dodge a shot this go round.
Quote from: hbliam on March 01, 2009, 05:56:54 PM
Not bitter. I know I probably got a "bad" one, but why would I kick down another 30K for the privelage to try my luck again? I didn't mention the broken interior parts, the falling out headliner or the poor quality paint. I'm giving Dodge a shot this go round.
and again for the record...
I'll push my Ford before I own a Dodge. [laugh]
30K? Not anymore, at least not the way I optioned it...
Chevy just drive and don't worry about plugs
;D
Quote from: GotDuc on March 01, 2009, 06:02:18 PM
Chevy just drive and don't worry about plugs
;D
Never had a problem with the 02, don't expect to have a problem with this one....
Quote from: ducpainter on March 01, 2009, 05:58:33 PM
and again for the record...
I'll push my Ford before I own a Dodge. [laugh]
I did push my Ford, that was the problem. :)
Quote from: NAKID on March 01, 2009, 06:00:12 PM
30K? Not anymore, at least not the way I optioned it...
I had a SC Lariat w/leather. 35K in '04. Probably 30K now.
Quote from: GotDuc on March 01, 2009, 06:02:18 PM
Chevy just drive and don't worry about plugs
I went to test drive a Chevy. The sales manager couldn't quit talking about how great the new Dodge design was. "I guess i better go drive one", I said as I left. :)
Just messing with ya man. I am sure you won't have problems with it.
Before my chevy I owned two fords.
Both great trucks.
I went to trade in my last ford and the salesman talked to me like a kid. IT was weird because at that time I was 34 so I am far from a child.
Maybe he thought I didn't have the money to buy the truck.
He realized he messed up when I stopped up with my new Chevy. ;D
Oh well his loss.
Quote from: hbliam on March 01, 2009, 06:35:10 PM
I did push my Ford, that was the problem. :)
I had a SC Lariat w/leather. 35K in '04. Probably 30K now.
MSRP on this was just over 46K. Of course that's not what I paid, but that's MSRP...
FX4 SuperCrew, 20" wheels, Nav, SYNC, Sirius, leather, captain's chairs, Max tow, trailer brake control, 6.5' bed, bedside steps
Congrats! I've got a Ford with 176,000 miles on it that's still reliable & runs well. Hope you see the same from yours!
JM
Quote from: NAKID on March 01, 2009, 06:45:03 PM
MSRP on this was just over 46K. Of course that's not what I paid, but that's MSRP...
FX4 SuperCrew, 20" wheels, Nav, SYNC, Sirius, leather, captain's chairs, Max tow, trailer brake control, 6.5' bed, bedside steps
I was quoting "what I got it for prices." MSRP on the Lariat in '04 was 42K or so. MSRP on the Dodge was 43K. I paid 29K. :) Hauls ass too. Nice having almost 400HP on tap.
Is the SYNCH system actually reliable?
So far it's been pretty good. Haven't played around with it too much yet...
Quote from: ducpainter on March 01, 2009, 05:58:33 PM
and again for the record...
I'll push my Ford before I own a Dodge. [laugh]
What about a Ridgeline?
;D
Quote from: Super T.I.B on March 02, 2009, 06:08:29 PM
What about a Ridgeline?
;D
Honda makes a good product.
Dodge IMO has too many body integrity issues.
The door hinge pins in particular.
Quote from: Super T.I.B on March 02, 2009, 06:08:29 PM
What about a Ridgeline?
;D
No thread jacking allowed - we are talking trucks.
;D
mitt
Quote from: Super T.I.B on March 02, 2009, 06:08:29 PM
What about a Ridgeline?
No available V-8=not a real truck...
Quote from: NAKID on March 03, 2009, 08:46:34 AM
No available V-8=not a real truck...
So will you be hauling huge trailers and carrying half ton loads in your truck?
If I recall, you work for the Navy, so this isn't a work truck.
I think most people could accomplish their needs with a smaller truck.
I use my Dakota for firewood & playing in the snow. Still got the V8, good thing for when I forget I'm loading green firewood and fill the bed ~
JM
I'm just amazed around here how many SUV's have V8's but yet, they are never used for anything other than typical driving.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 03, 2009, 08:48:59 AM
So will you be hauling huge trailers and carrying half ton loads in your truck?
If I recall, you work for the Navy, so this isn't a work truck.
I think most people could accomplish their needs with a smaller truck.
My 1/2 ton hauls a ton...
it is all it wants... ;)
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 03, 2009, 09:02:35 AM
I'm just amazed around here how many SUV's have V8's but yet, they are never used for anything other than typical driving.
You can look at it like this: SUV's are getting heavier and heavier. More components, more safety features, etc. My wife's Touareg for example weighs 5300lbs. If not for the V8, it would be pretty sluggish. The V6 and V8 Touareg actually get very similar mileage...
Quote from: NAKID on March 03, 2009, 09:14:21 AM
You can look at it like this: SUV's are getting heavier and heavier. More components, more safety features, etc. My wife's Touareg for example weighs 5300lbs. If not for the V8, it would be pretty sluggish. The V6 and V8 Touareg actually get very similar mileage...
How is her mileage? I hear it sucks.
we do a lot of in town driving and it's in the high 13's...
Quote from: Sinister on March 03, 2009, 10:08:22 AM
How is her mileage? I hear it sucks.
My Mom's gets no more than 10mpg in the city
Quote from: NAKID on March 03, 2009, 10:12:51 AM
we do a lot of in town driving and it's in the high 13's...
No way, I don't buy that.
I get 13.9 mpg in my RX300
Take driving style into consideration when comparing notes. I get 26-29 out of my old Taurus. My fiancée gets 19-21 out of it.
JM
Congrats! [thumbsup]
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 03, 2009, 10:54:54 AM
My Mom's gets no more than 10mpg in the city
No way, I don't buy that.
I get 13.9 mpg in my RX300
I'm not really concerned if you buy it or not, I really have no reason to lie about it...
AVERAGE fuel economy in the Touareg in OUR experience is in the high 13's...
Quote from: hbliam on February 28, 2009, 06:33:21 PM
3 transmissions in 17K miles on my '04 F150. [roll]
Nakid. Congrats...the sales tax is tax deductible too. Hooray that I waited until 01-02-2009 to purchase.
sounds like user error...
Quote from: corey on March 03, 2009, 11:21:30 AM
sounds like user error...
No kidding. I just replaced the transmission, in my Chevy, at 193,500 miles.
Toureg:
Everyone in my family has spent time driving it.
Consistently it gets shit gas mileage.
RX300:
I am a light driver, all city.
I am not hard on gas, acceleration, etc.
I am currently getting 13.7mpg for city driving.
Quote from: NAKID on March 03, 2009, 11:18:29 AM
I'm not really concerned if you buy it or not, I really have no reason to lie about it...
AVERAGE fuel economy in the Touareg in OUR experience is in the high 13's...
that's good then, you are beating fueleconomy.gov numbers [thumbsup]
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2009, 05:33:14 PM
It's a Ford...
trust me...it will stay together.
<----------- 99 F250.
212,000 miles.
holding together nicely [thumbsup]
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 03, 2009, 11:41:35 AM
Toureg:
Everyone in my family has spent time driving it.
Consistently it gets shit gas mileage.
RX300:
I am a light driver, all city.
I am not hard on gas, acceleration, etc.
I am currently getting 13.7mpg for city driving.
that's good then, you are beating fueleconomy.gov numbers [thumbsup]
My buddy had an Audi Q7 with the V8. He got 13ish commuting from Brooklyn to the Bronx and 17ish going to the country house in the Berkshires.
Quote from: howie on March 03, 2009, 12:25:27 PM
My buddy had an Audi Q7 with the V8. He got 13ish commuting from Brooklyn to the Bronx and 17ish going to the country house in the Berkshires.
I noticed the Toureg gets different mileage depending on octane used.
I wonder if additives for different regions play a factor?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 03, 2009, 12:38:13 PM
I noticed the Toureg gets different mileage depending on octane used.
I wonder if additives for different regions play a factor?
Here in CA, the summer blend gas makes the mileage fall off pretty noticeably. I don't know about other ones, but I can say that at least in one case it does.
That truck is freakin enormous.
On the Touareg tip, a cohort of mine is a vw master tech and loathed those things for years. Yours is new, so it's a different story he says, but the first few years they were in the shop incessantly, and terrible to work on.
He also shared with me that the name is from a nomadic tribe with the highest STD infection rate in the world. ??? [laugh]
The 04-05 Touaregs have a pretty bad rap, for good reason. They released it with a lot of problems that took a while to work out. 07 really started the "good" Touareg's.
Jud, you can't really compare your RX300 to a Touareg. You have a V6, but also, the RX weighs about 1600lbs less so that's bound to have some influence. The AWD setup in the RX is nothing like the 4XMotion of the Touareg...
As far as the size of my truck, I have 2 kids and looked at smaller trucks. Just not feasible. I do use my truck for quite a bit of personal hauling. Plus the fact that I am in the military and do move quite a bit, I need something I can put my bike in the back of. I WILL NOT let the miitary move my bike. Is it overkill? Maybe. Could I get by with less? Maybe. But what happens when I need the room? With this truck, I have it. It's not like I'm complaining about how much gas costs for it. I knew what I was getting into when I bought it. Plus, it gets very similar mileage to the truck I replaced...
What is your truck getting?
Quote from: corey on March 03, 2009, 11:21:30 AM
sounds like user error...
Hmm, put it in drive, push gas pedal, push brake pedal, put in park. Not to mention zero problems ever with any vehicle transmission for the past 22 years of vehicle (truck, car, boat, moto) use. I'm gonna go with....POS.
Quote from: ducpainter on March 03, 2009, 01:10:11 PM
What is your truck getting?
New truck is doing low to mid 13's so far, a little less in 4WD...
Quote from: NAKID on March 03, 2009, 08:46:34 AM
No available V-8=not a real truck...
My Jeep would like a word with you.
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2742518275_bb91ebcd83.jpg?v=0)
Quote from: NAKID on March 03, 2009, 03:06:08 PM
New truck is doing low to mid 13's so far, a little less in 4WD...
:o :o :o :o :o
Holy SHIT! That's 18 litres/100km in my world. Or 5.5km per litre.
How big is the tank?
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 03, 2009, 03:23:42 PM
My Jeep would like a word with you.
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2742518275_bb91ebcd83.jpg?v=0)
I should have amended that to say AT LEAST a V8.
Quote from: Super T.I.B on March 03, 2009, 03:31:49 PM
:o :o :o :o :o
Holy SHIT! That's 18 litres/100km in my world. Or 5.5km per litre.
How big is the tank?
36 Gallons...
Quote from: NAKID on March 03, 2009, 04:52:51 PM
36 Gallons...
Hypothetically, if I were the owner of a truck like this and were to drive it to work, it would cost me approx. $166.00 in fuel every week. That's only if it was driven to & from work.
:-\
Well, here currently, it would cost me less than $75 to fill it and the tank would last me over 450 miles...
Sweet truck dude. I have an 04 FX4, same color. Just cracked 75,000 miles and only had 1 minor problem with a window regulator. It's a great truck. I'm hoping they come out with a small diesel soon, then it will be upgrade time.
Enjoy the new whip!
Quote from: Super T.I.B on March 03, 2009, 06:30:54 PM
Hypothetically, if I were the owner of a truck like this and were to drive it to work, it would cost me approx. $166.00 in fuel every week. That's only if it was driven to & from work.
:-\
That is
one of the reasons the rest of world questions our buying practices.
mitt
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2009, 05:33:14 PM
It's a Ford...
trust me...it will stay together.
Seriously.
My brother and I just blew up my dad's old Ford work van. It had all original parts. Literally nothing was every changed on it aside from brakes and tires... It had close to 400,000 miles on it. It drove like shit, but it still drove. Until the thermostat (also original) failed with a huge load of fire wood going up hill. That was all she wrote.
We just gave it to the tow truck guys for free.
Quote from: mitt on March 04, 2009, 09:03:18 AM
That is one of the reasons the rest of world questions our buying practices.
mitt
not so long ago, i was commuting over a hundred miles a day in my F250
when diesel hit the high point, it was costing me easily 160.00 a week in fuel
Quote from: mitt on March 04, 2009, 09:03:18 AM
That is one of the reasons the rest of world questions our buying practices.
mitt
exactly
My boss has a Ridgeline; I know a lot here won't call that a "truck" because it doesn't have a "v8" but none the less, is a truck.
He drives all highway, about 38 miles round trip per day.
That has got to add up..........
Quote from: ducpainter on March 01, 2009, 08:12:11 AM
That kinda sucks...
I can't even find the plugs. ;D
Real trucks don't have spark plugs. [cheeky]
11 mpg city/highway/uphill/downhill
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/silentbob_pics/11093050.jpg)
consistent is good!
Quote from: mitt on March 04, 2009, 09:03:18 AM
That is one of the reasons the rest of world questions our buying practices.
mitt
So? Of course, I can only speak for myself, but I knew what I was getting into when I bought a full-size truck. No, I don't get 30-mpg. Yes, I can haul a couch, futon, and various other household items all at one time (for which many of my friends are appreciative). I get a kick out of people (usually Greenie wackjobs) who make a big deal about how much MY fuel bill is. It's my money, and I budget for it.
It beats driving a Honda Civic...especially with two 70#+ dogs, a baby, and my wife.
I think he was alluding to those who have these big ass truck's and do nothing but commute in them.
But you are right, it is your own money and can be spent however you see fit, but then again, you actually use your truck daily for hauling, worksites, etc.
I haul two overly-spoiled hunting dogs, most days. Little bastards have it so good, they don't even know it.
Quote from: silentbob on March 04, 2009, 12:33:10 PM
Real trucks don't have spark plugs. [cheeky]
11 mpg city/highway/uphill/downhill
DT 466?
i would have a hard time hauling this with anything short of the truck i have...
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm285/s2r1000/DSC01574.jpg)
come to think of it, if i didnt have extra springs in the back, and use a WDH, i prolly couldnt even pull it then..
Quote from: Sinister on March 04, 2009, 01:47:20 PM
So? Of course, I can only speak for myself, but I knew what I was getting into when I bought a full-size truck. No, I don't get 30-mpg. Yes, I can haul a couch, futon, and various other household items all at one time (for which many of my friends are appreciative). I get a kick out of people (usually Greenie wackjobs) who make a big deal about how much MY fuel bill is. It's my money, and I budget for it.
It beats driving a Honda Civic...especially with two 70#+ dogs, a baby, and my wife.
It is just kind of self made self supported cycle - we consume more gas, so gas is cheaper, so we consume more (per person on a global basis). We can argue that we are bigger, that our country is bigger, our roads are worse, etc, but in reality, it is our culture that we use more than others. I think the fact that we use more and pay less doesn't sit well with our global relatives. Kind of like we pay less for a Monster in the states than someone living in Bologna. I'm not complaining, just trying to explain the rational to people that don't understand why an average guy would drive a 14mpg vehicle. My SUV gets ~17, so I am guilty too, but I only drive about 20 miles a day, less than 10k per year.
mitt
Quote from: Sinister on March 04, 2009, 02:42:42 PM
I haul two overly-spoiled hunting dogs, most days. Little bastards have it so good, they don't even know it.
Dude, if they were spoiled, they would ride in comfort like mine..........
Road trips are now in the lexus, depending on distance.
Alex hangs out on Tiffany's lap, with a blanket of course.
Greta gets the backseat on a Duluth Pack (brand) seat cover system. I highly recommend this set up if you haul dogs in your car.
Little brat gets toys, blankets, etc.
Nakid,
36 gallons = 76$ = 2.08 a gallon???
holy shite, you are getting ripped off!
I am paying 1.82$
;D
Quote from: mitt on March 04, 2009, 05:13:19 PM
Kind of like we pay less for a Monster in the states than someone living in Bologna. I'm not complaining, just trying to explain the rational to people that don't understand why an average guy would drive a 14mpg vehicle. My SUV gets ~17, so I am guilty too, but I only drive about 20 miles a day, less than 10k per year.
mitt
A lot of the cost of a bike in Europe is VAT.
I thought I didn't drive much...........
I drive maybe 8miles a day.......and that is coming home for lunch!
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 04, 2009, 05:18:54 PM
Dude, if they were spoiled, they would ride in comfort like mine..........
Road trips are now in the lexus, depending on distance.
Alex hangs out on Tiffany's lap, with a blanket of course.
Greta gets the backseat on a Duluth Pack (brand) seat cover system. I highly recommend this set up if you haul dogs in your car.
Little brat gets toys, blankets, etc.
There's too much hair for them to be in the truck. They have a beautiful aluminum dog box, with blankets, fresh air, etc.
Quote from: Sinister on March 04, 2009, 05:34:56 PM
There's too much hair for them to be in the truck. They have a beautiful aluminum dog box, with blankets, fresh air, etc.
good point, they do have a bit more hair than my dogs.
do they share a box or have separate?
Are the boxes mounted in the bed or "free standing"?
Quote from: Sinister on March 04, 2009, 05:34:56 PM
There's too much hair for them to be in the truck. They have a beautiful aluminum dog box, with blankets, fresh air, etc.
My old pickup was a great setup for our lab and viszla - I had a topper with side windows that could be cracked open just enough that 1 dog had their nose out 1 side, and the other dog had its nose out the other side. I miss that truck and my dogs.
mitt
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 04, 2009, 05:18:54 PM
Nakid,
36 gallons = 76$ = 2.08 a gallon???
holy shite, you are getting ripped off!
I am paying 1.82$
;D
I rounded up. Lowest price around here is about $1.98. Apparently gas in the Northeast is the highest in the country...
Quote from: NAKID on March 04, 2009, 06:00:25 PM
I rounded up. Lowest price around here is about $1.98. Apparently gas in the Northeast is the highest in the country...
Every commodity is high in the Northeast.
Gas here is the same as for cyrus...at least for today.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 04, 2009, 05:37:40 PM
good point, they do have a bit more hair than my dogs.
do they share a box or have separate?
Are the boxes mounted in the bed or "free standing"?
Here's where they ride:
(http://www.owens-pro.com/images/dogboxes/55044_lg.jpg)
Quote from: silentbob on March 04, 2009, 12:33:10 PM
Real trucks don't have spark plugs. [cheeky]
11 mpg city/highway/uphill/downhill
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/silentbob_pics/11093050.jpg)
Mine is just a little baby truck. ;D
That gets close to 20mpg hwy. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Sinister on March 04, 2009, 06:11:10 PM
Here's where they ride:
(http://www.owens-pro.com/images/dogboxes/55044_lg.jpg)
That box is badass!
Quote from: NAKID on March 04, 2009, 06:00:25 PM
I rounded up. Lowest price around here is about $1.98. Apparently gas in the Northeast is the highest in the country...
It's $2.07 here as of an hour ago.
We actually are normally the highest in the Country. It sucks.
http://gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx (http://gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx)
Quote from: hbliam on March 04, 2009, 08:35:05 PM
It's $2.07 here as of an hour ago.
We actually are normally the highest in the Country. It sucks.
http://gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx (http://gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx)
CT likes their gas tax
Thanks, NAKID. Wanted one for a couple years, and finally pulled the trigger.
I paid $2.19, the other day, and just saw that the Union 76 near my house said $2.23.
Quote from: Super T.I.B on March 02, 2009, 06:08:29 PM
What about a Ridgeline?
;D
Quote from: NAKID on March 03, 2009, 08:46:34 AM
No available V-8=not a real truck...
this is all i need a truck for... seems to work just fine
(http://7mzdt.com/images/ridge.jpg)
and the trunk is DOPE.
but that's a nice looking Ford, indeed. i'll give you that the Ridgeline is kinda ugly.. ;) very nice inside tho.
That thing^^^^ is the yuppie version of a cross between an El Camino and a Subaru Brat.
Quote from: Sinister on March 05, 2009, 08:38:28 AM
That thing^^^^ is the yuppie version of a cross between an El Camino and a Subaru Brat.
I test drove one - it takes about 20 seconds before you forget what you are driving and feel like you are in a car - not a bad thing - very nice driving and very nice interior.
I might have bought one if I could get past the looks and cost. At the time is seemed like too much money for what you got.
mitt
For an "off road" truck, this rides very nice. Compared to my 02 with 74k the rides is better, less jarring, easier to manage. Don't get me wrong, it is not as smooth as a car, no where near it. But it's a very nice ride for a truck...
Quote from: mitt on March 05, 2009, 11:53:58 AM
I test drove one - it takes about 20 seconds before you forget what you are driving and feel like you are in a car - not a bad thing - very nice driving and very nice interior.
I might have bought one if I could get past the looks and cost. At the time is seemed like too much money for what you got.
mitt
+1
I have driven my boss's several times.
It is all decked out with every feature imaginable.
But mitt is right........doesn't look good and insanely pricey
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 05, 2009, 12:01:11 PM
+1
I have driven my boss's several times.
It is all decked out with every feature imaginable.
But mitt is right........doesn't look good and insanely pricey
based on the other prices i've seen mentioned in this thread, it's really not that expensive. assuming you don't want a 'work truck'. mine has the works as far as options (er, package - honda doesn't have options) and it really wasn't much more than anything else i was considering at the time. now having had it for 2 years, i think it was a bargain. 20 seconds is about right for thinking you're driving a car. i readily admit that it's kinda fugly, but, eh... i don't look at the outside of it when i'm driving it. and it's benefits far outweigh that consideration.
for gettng to and from the track, which is 100% of the reason why i have a truck at all, it's perfect.
if i had an appetite for a FS truck tho, i would look at that Ford.
without getting into specifics, back when it was purchased, it was the most expensive sticker priced Ridgeline sold to date.
I want to say it was an 07?
IZ likes the Ridgeline...I rest my case.
8)
Quote from: Sinister on March 05, 2009, 12:41:44 PM
IZ likes the Ridgeline...I rest my case.
8)
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 05, 2009, 12:36:08 PM
without getting into specifics, back when it was purchased, it was the most expensive sticker priced Ridgeline sold to date.
I want to say it was an 07?
yep, mine's an '07. but i also paid a lot less for it than the average human.
Quote from: Sinister on March 05, 2009, 12:41:44 PM
IZ likes the Ridgeline...I rest my case.
8)
[laugh]...yeah.. .there is that... [laugh]
it's almost blasphemy to call it a truck. i get that. but whatever it is, it works.
Quote from: Sinister on March 05, 2009, 08:38:28 AM
That thing^^^^ is the yuppie version of a cross between an El Camino and a Subaru Brat.
I had a resto-mod '75 Ranchero (complete with a mildly built 414 CI engine) almost a decade ago that I miss occasionally to this day. Drove like a car, hauled parts and bikes, and hauled ass to boot. :)
The only thing close these days is that Pontiac G8 truck thingy, which is interesting but still a GM. But if it had AWD.....
Drove one today with a 5,000lb trailer behind it. Was not impressed.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on March 05, 2009, 06:06:58 PM
Drove one today with a 5,000lb trailer behind it. Was not impressed.
What vehicle? We kinda got off the subject of the Ford...
Hey Chris does this mean that you will put the Ducati in the back of the F-150 and finally come visit? You know you miss it out here.
Quote from: silentbob on March 05, 2009, 07:37:24 PM
Hey Chris does this mean that you will put the Ducati in the back of the F-150 and finally come visit? You know you miss it out here.
He won't visit...
he won't even take a drive up to NH. [roll]
;D
Hell yeah I miss it. I would like to get a boat out there. If I do, the bike goes in the back and the Touareg gets towed behind....
Quote from: ducpainter on March 05, 2009, 07:39:35 PM
He won't visit...
he won't even take a drive up to NH. [roll]
;D
Asshole! ;D
I'm busy with school or you know I would...
Quote from: NAKID on March 05, 2009, 07:46:23 PM
Hell yeah I miss it. I would like to get a boat out there. If I do, the bike goes in the back and the Touareg gets towed behind....
Asshole! ;D
I'm busy with school or you know I would...
Thank you... ;)
Quote from: NAKID on March 05, 2009, 06:16:02 PM
What vehicle? We kinda got off the subject of the Ford...
All four, actually. Tundra, Ram, F-150 & Silverado. Ford and Chevy not impressive. Chevy was worse.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on March 05, 2009, 09:23:58 PM
All four, actually. Tundra, Ram, F-150 & Silverado. Ford and Chevy not impressive. Chevy was worse.
Interesting, when it was time to choose my '04 it came down to the Ford and the Dodge. After driving both (very similarly equipped) back to back the same day it was no contest and the Ford came home....
Weird. I love the stuff ride of my Dodge.
JM
Quote from: Speedbag on March 06, 2009, 04:28:06 AM
Interesting, when it was time to choose my '04 it came down to the Ford and the Dodge. After driving both (very similarly equipped) back to back the same day it was no contest and the Ford came home....
I could completely see that with the previous generation trucks.
Dodge has made huge strides with their Ram.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on March 05, 2009, 09:23:58 PM
All four, actually. Tundra, Ram, F-150 & Silverado. Ford and Chevy not impressive. Chevy was worse.
Any specifics? I haven't towed with it yet but Ford is touting it's capability over the other trucks you mentioned. What was your experience?
Chris I HATE you. Everything I own is paid for...bikes, cars, etc... and now you bring this sexy new 09 into it and I want one. NOTHING wrong with my 04 F150...clean, dependable (100k)...yet I want.
damn you all. ;D
Quote from: ducducgooseme on March 06, 2009, 06:53:45 AM
Chris I HATE you. Everything I own is paid for...bikes, cars, etc... and now you bring this sexy new 09 into it and I want one. NOTHING wrong with my 04 F150...clean, dependable (100k)...yet I want.
damn you all. ;D
No problem man, that's what I'm here for....
...I just read an article that the Police in Massachusetts are using the F-150's as unmarked police vehicles!!!
Acording the the site:
"According to the folks at Pansy Patrol (great name by the way), a uniformed officer was seen ticketing a motorist who he pulled over with a blue-gray late model F-150 with no markings in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. The only indications it was a legitimate cruiser came from the interior-mounted red and blue lights. Very tricky. First they bail on the Caprice and take up Crown Vic Interceptors, then Chargers, and now the most ubiquitous vehicle on the road, the F-150."
Chris, did you have inside knowledge of this when you bought yours??? [evil]
Dude, they must have some different programming, mine is governed at about 92MPH...
Quote from: NAKID on March 06, 2009, 08:40:22 AM
Dude, they must have some different programming, mine is governed at about 92MPH...
[laugh] LOL, you found the limiter already?? [evil]
Had to! It was on the freeway home from the dealership...
Quote from: NAKID on March 06, 2009, 09:18:25 AM
Had to! It was on the freeway home from the dealership...
Did you do the same thing with your Monster? [cheeky]
No, when the Monster was delivered I wasn't able to ride yet. I did however get up to a hair over 140 with Dietrich and Shawn (when he was around) coming back from Renaissance a while back...
Quote from: Monster Dave on March 06, 2009, 08:33:57 AM
...I just read an article that the Police in Massachusetts are using the F-150's as unmarked police vehicles!!!
Acording the the site:
"According to the folks at Pansy Patrol (great name by the way), a uniformed officer was seen ticketing a motorist who he pulled over with a blue-gray late model F-150 with no markings in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. The only indications it was a legitimate cruiser came from the interior-mounted red and blue lights. Very tricky. First they bail on the Caprice and take up Crown Vic Interceptors, then Chargers, and now the most ubiquitous vehicle on the road, the F-150."
Chris, did you have inside knowledge of this when you bought yours??? [evil]
At least in theory, in CA, you wouldn't have to pull over for them. It has to be a marked vehicle.
Quote from: NAKID on March 06, 2009, 09:35:48 AM
No, when the Monster was delivered I wasn't able to ride yet. I did however get up to a hair over 140 with Dietrich and Shawn (when he was around) coming back from Renaissance a while back...
You have a 620 Capirex, correct?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 06, 2009, 10:54:14 AM
You have a 620 Capirex, correct?
How'd you know? I bought it from some guy named Randy, Randall, something like that...
;D
Quote from: NAKID on March 06, 2009, 11:03:42 AM
How'd you know? I bought it from some guy named Randy, Randall, something like that...
I still feel for the guy who bought that bike.
He was never able to get it titled...........
Quote from: NAKID on March 06, 2009, 06:19:16 AM
Any specifics? I haven't towed with it yet but Ford is touting it's capability over the other trucks you mentioned. What was your experience?
Tranny doesn't want to shift very well (we were driving the 5.4L FX4 model). Lot's of body roll. Interior was weird. Had the futuristic dotty dash panels, but basket-weave leather seats.
Brakes also were a weakness. Long pedal travel, and not much grabbing action.
Also, their 11,300 lb towing capacity claim is on one very specific truck that has 3/4 rear springs and rear axle. Going to imagine the ride will be a bit harsher there.
Their SFE truck (again, one very specific model) that they use to tout their 21 MPG claim has a 3.15 rear end, a few aero bits, aluminum wheels (which puts it in a lower EPA testing class) and low rolling resistance tires to achieve 21 MPG. Lots of compromise there.
Well, I have the 5.4 FX4 model and having driven it since last week I have to disagree. Tranny shifts perfectly in mine. I have the 3.73 rear end. I love the way the dash looks, seats are very comfortable and supportive. Not sure why you say the brakes are weak, they are much more capable than the 02 I had. There is much less body roll than the 02 I had. Mine has the Max Tow package which sets it up for the 11,300 towing capacity.
I agree about the SFE though. It has the 4.6, lower rear end, skinny tires, the whole nine yards.
Quote from: NAKID on March 06, 2009, 05:35:32 PM
Well, I have the 5.4 FX4 model and having driven it since last week I have to disagree. Tranny shifts perfectly in mine. I have the 3.73 rear end. I love the way the dash looks, seats are very comfortable and supportive. Not sure why you say the brakes are weak, they are much more capable than the 02 I had. There is much less body roll than the 02 I had. Mine has the Max Tow package which sets it up for the 11,300 towing capacity.
I agree about the SFE though. It has the 4.6, lower rear end, skinny tires, the whole nine yards.
Perhaps the difference is noticeable on towing? I had the impression Randimus was towing a load when he found the truck the way he did.
Been half a$$ following this thread, I'm happy with my 93 Dodge W250 5mt cummins. It does what I need need it to do and gets 19 to 22 mpg, and was paid for a decade ago. My question is when is somebody going to wake up and offer a Cummins 3.9 4BT in a 1/2 ton ? If the the 6 cylinder gets 20 mpg, the 4 cylinder should be pushing 30 mpg.
Quote from: B.Rock on March 06, 2009, 09:58:12 AM
At least in theory, in CA, you wouldn't have to pull over for them. It has to be a marked vehicle.
Who told you that? :)
The vehicle only has to have a solid, forward facing red light to pull you over. Most unmarked cars here have much more then that, including lights in the grill, on the rear views, aboive the visors, or many other combos. And you have to pull over for all of them.
Quote from: hbliam on March 06, 2009, 08:00:29 PM
Who told you that? :)
The vehicle only has to have a solid, forward facing red light to pull you over. Most unmarked cars here have much more then that, including lights in the grill, on the rear views, aboive the visors, or many other combos. And you have to pull over for all of them.
So what setup does your segway have?
Quote from: NAKID on March 06, 2009, 05:35:32 PM
Well, I have the 5.4 FX4 model and having driven it since last week I have to disagree. Tranny shifts perfectly in mine. I have the 3.73 rear end. I love the way the dash looks, seats are very comfortable and supportive. Not sure why you say the brakes are weak, they are much more capable than the 02 I had. There is much less body roll than the 02 I had. Mine has the Max Tow package which sets it up for the 11,300 towing capacity.
I agree about the SFE though. It has the 4.6, lower rear end, skinny tires, the whole nine yards.
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 06, 2009, 05:47:51 PM
Perhaps the difference is noticeable on towing? I had the impression Randimus was towing a load when he found the truck the way he did.
My apologies, I was referring to the maximum payload package. And yes, the Ford was pulling a trailer that weighed 5,000 as were all of the other trucks.
However, since your truck has a maximum payload of 1,560 towing 11,000+ wouldn't leave you much cargo space other than yourself and possibly one other person.
Transmission shifting has nothing to do with the rear end gearing. The sumpregnant dog would not downshift to accelerate.
I didn't mention anything about the seats being uncomfortable. I mentioned that the "basket weave" leather didn't really go well with the ultra modern dash inserts.
Quote from: sno_duc on March 06, 2009, 06:42:30 PM
Been half a$$ following this thread, I'm happy with my 93 Dodge W250 5mt cummins. It does what I need need it to do and gets 19 to 22 mpg, and was paid for a decade ago. My question is when is somebody going to wake up and offer a Cummins 3.9 4BT in a 1/2 ton ? If the the 6 cylinder gets 20 mpg, the 4 cylinder should be pushing 30 mpg.
Makes perfect sense.
However, given the current state of the industry, not many players have the engineering resources to bring a 1/2T pickup w/ a small diesel to market.
Nice Truck. My 92 Toy is hanging tough, but I would love a brand new truck. ;D
Quote from: hbliam on March 07, 2009, 06:46:18 PM
Always the hater.
Oh Scott, we are passed that.
Just take a joke [thumbsup]
can't you two school girls just get along?
Quote from: ducpainter on March 07, 2009, 07:42:20 PM
can't you two school girls just get along?
We do, he just wants me to wear a circa Baby one More Time skirt and I refuse
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Isn't 11k towing pretty high for a half ton truck?
My parents have a 95 F150 and I don't think it can nearly pull that much, but then again, it is 14 years old
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 07, 2009, 07:44:26 PM
Isn't 11k towing pretty high for a half ton truck?
My parents have a 95 F150 and I don't think it can nearly pull that much, but then again, it is 14 years old
It's a Ford.
Not to worry.
I realize every manu builds bad ones....
I've never gotten a bad one from Ford.
As always...YMMV
I wasn't really talking about brand loyalty, as everyone has a brand they like and will never buy another truck.
I just didn't know a half ton could pull 11k in weight, thought it was less.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 07, 2009, 07:44:26 PM
Isn't 11k towing pretty high for a half ton truck?
My parents have a 95 F150 and I don't think it can nearly pull that much, but then again, it is 14 years old
Yeah, 11k is a lot. I don't need to tow that much, it's just that to get the options I wanted, that option was included...
when we were looking at trucks, i noticed all the fords that were a couple of years old ('06) had issues with the paint/finish on the logo on the front grill...
what's up with that?
Hmmm, not sure. My 02 never had a problem with the paint on the logo. Maybe it's something about this area. Mine spent most of it's life in CA and AZ...
all of them at the dealership here in CT had large air bubbles, that were cracking and peeling...
my 99 has had no problems with the paint (other than the ones i caused)
as for the 11k towing rating on an f150.......... i am very skeptical. that is a LOT of weight.
even if the claim is true,...i cant imagine pulling that kind of load at altitude, or up a steep hill for that matter with an f150...it be barkin the whole way.
chassis can handle it, but the 5.4 won't. Even with the improved grunt this year. The 6 speed auto is from the f250, so that's up to the challenge. Motor would be suckin serious wind though...
Based on how it felt towing 5K, there is no way I would put 11K behind it.
And I don't believe the fully boxed frame would give you a very nice ride with that much weight either. That's why 3/4 Ton & up trucks use an open C-channel frame in the back (as does the Tundra).
When a mfg has to round to the nearest 100 pounds, instead of say 500 or 1000 pounds, you know they are stretching the truth. For example, maybe they had the test truck pull 11,300 without breaking, but then puked at 11,400. Rather than just say 11,000, or 11,500, they went with 11,300 - it just seems odd.
And I agree that is too much weight for any 1/2 ton truck (why that is even a class name anymore I don't know).
mitt
that & if your gonna tow that much, why would you want to be using something that's gonna be functioning @ 9/10ths or 10/10ths, anyway. If your gonna tow that much on a regular basis, it'd better be with a 1ton.
I doubt I will ever tow anything CLOSE to that weight with it. The most I'd do is probably the wife's Touareg (5300) on an auto transporter (~1500). That's if we move cross country again...
Quote from: NAKID on March 08, 2009, 11:00:16 AM
I doubt I will ever tow anything CLOSE to that weight with it. The most I'd do is probably the wife's Touareg (5300) on an auto transporter (~1500). That's if we move cross country again...
Now you're thinking right. Should I start looking for places for you?
I wish. There's still only a few boats in SD. I'll know more in July...
Quote from: NAKID on March 08, 2009, 11:00:16 AM
I doubt I will ever tow anything CLOSE to that weight with it. The most I'd do is probably the wife's Touareg (5300) on an auto transporter (~1500). That's if we move cross country again...
good luck getting uhaul to buy into that plan....
Yeah, they didn't want me to put my old F150 on there either, but it made it almost 3000 miles...
yes, pulling it with one of their commercial duty trucks right?
i dont think they will let you pull their trailer+tourag with an f150
im not trying to be a dick, just speaking from experience.
i once tried to rent a uhaul car hauler to move a toyota 4runner with my super duty ford. uhaul informed me that my vehicle was not capable of hauling their trailer+ the weight of the 4x4 4runner.
ridiculous of course, but there it is...
Yeah, I may have to "be mistaken" when it comes to what vehicle I'm putting on it...
uhaul suxs serious donkey schlong. My guess is they just wanted to sell the rental of one of their trucks...
I've got some serious hate for them after a couple of Dity moves while I when I was still in.
I just did my DITY move with them. Rented a gasoline 27' truck and an autotransporter. Told them the wife's Passat was going on it. Instead put my 02 F150 Super Cab on there along with a shit ton of stuff in the back. Total truck weight with the pickup was 31K pounds!
You would have been up a creek if anything happened..........
Quote from: mitt on March 08, 2009, 08:15:49 AM
When a mfg has to round to the nearest 100 pounds, instead of say 500 or 1000 pounds, you know they are stretching the truth. For example, maybe they had the test truck pull 11,300 without breaking, but then puked at 11,400. Rather than just say 11,000, or 11,500, they went with 11,300 - it just seems odd.
And I agree that is too much weight for any 1/2 ton truck (why that is even a class name anymore I don't know).
mitt
My old Scout is rated to like 8400. While I don't doubt that it would pull that on flat ground, I wouldn't want to, like, turn, stop, go up or down hill, etc... [laugh]
I always thought that "1/2 ton" "3/4 ton" etc was the amount you could place in the bed or load the rear end with, more or less?
Quote from: B.Rock on March 08, 2009, 09:58:05 PM
I always thought that "1/2 ton" "3/4 ton" etc was the amount you could place in the bed or load the rear end with, more or less?
weight rating of the axles.
Quote from: derby on March 08, 2009, 10:14:48 PM
weight rating of the axles.
somewhat of an over simplification. :P
Carrying capacity (weight rating) is the amount of weight you can add before you exceed rated GVW which is based on the weight rating of the axles
Quote from: B.Rock on March 08, 2009, 09:58:05 PM
I always thought that "1/2 ton" "3/4 ton" etc was the amount you could place in the bed or load the rear end with, more or less?
Used to mean something like that.
Now just refers to light duty, heavy duty, heavier duty, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification)
Ton rating
When light-duty trucks were first produced, they were rated by their payload capacity in tons (e.g., 1â,,2-, 3â,,4- and 1-ton). The Ford F-150, Chevy/GMC 1500, and Dodge 1500 are a 1â,,2-ton. The Ford F-250, Chevy/GMC 2500, and Dodge 2500 are a 3â,,4-ton. The Ford F-350, Chevy/GMC 3500, and Dodge 3500 are a 1-ton. But throughout the years, the payload capacities have increased while the ton title has stayed the same. The current ton rating is nothing more than just a truck name.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on March 08, 2009, 07:22:56 PM
You would have been up a creek if anything happened..........
Yup, but I really didn't have another option.