Ok, we have a 1911 thread... where's the love for the long guns?
Had to sell a load of the guns I had acquired a few years back, and now I'm working on building up my arsenal again.
Just picked this one a couple weeks ago.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f316/millertime355/008.jpg)
Chinese SKS, all numbers matching, complete with cleaning kit in stock, cleaning rod, original bayonet and original sling.
Next project is another AR-15. Currently in the process of finding parts to fit the Rock River lower that I acquired this past weekend.
m-44 in Da house!
I picked it up after a Bear ripped down our front door. This is when I was living in Tahoe. We got a tag that allowed us to shoot him next time. I never had to use teh 7.62x54R m-44 on him, but he did get a shitload of 22lr in his ass whenever he came around after that. It didn't keep him away, but it did keep him out of the house.
After the Bear incident, I got to really enjoy taking it to the range. Nothing like lining up a 60 year old rifle and hitting your target a 100 yards away using iron sights and old Russian surplus ammo!
(http://mcb-homis.com/nagant_m44/nagant_m44.jpg)
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 03, 2008, 07:34:28 PM
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f316/millertime355/008.jpg)
Chinese SKS, all numbers matching, complete with cleaning kit in stock, cleaning rod, original bayonet and original sling.
That describes my SKS, I bought it in '88. [thumbsup]
I also have the requisite Ruger 10/22 for plinking.
I love the SKS, I don't know why. It's sort of the forgotten baby brother of the AK.
sort of. there is little wrong with it, maybe the weight, but what can you expect from such an old gun. Damn thing will fire everytime you pull the trigger.
[beer]
I've love my 10/22... great hooligan gun, especially with the 50shot clip!
Problem is, I left it with my dad for a little too long, having trouble getting it back from him.
Quote from: Kaveh on June 03, 2008, 07:41:23 PM
m-44 in Da house!
I picked it up after a Bear ripped down our front door. This is when I was living in Tahoe. We got a tag that allowed us to shoot him next time. I never had to use teh 7.62x54R m-44 on him, but he did get a shitload of 22lr in his ass whenever he came around after that. It didn't keep him away, but it did keep him out of the house.
After the Bear incident, I got to really enjoy taking it to the range. Nothing like lining up a 60 year old rifle and hitting your target a 100 yards away using iron sights and old Russian surplus ammo!
Picked up a M44 this winter at a local pawn shop, but had to sell it to a friend of mine who felt he had to have it. Good thing though, I'd rather pick up a 91/30.
Hey, did you get the ammo bandoleer with the SKS?
Nope. in all my research on it, I haven't seen one.
Was that more of a Russian thing?
Forget it, just did a search for it and found em. with stripper clips and oil bottle for 19.00
Maybe, but I got one with my chinese SKS.
cant beat the 10/22! Unless it is the S&W AR-15 [thumbsup]
I plan on saving the original stock with a little "bubba" work.
Ordered a Tapco Fusion stock, a couple 20 round clips and a holo sight.
Quote from: RodeoClown on June 03, 2008, 08:19:24 PM
cant beat the 10/22! Unless it is the S&W AR-15 [thumbsup]
How is the S&W AR? Been shopping around for an AR and have been leaning towards the DPMS AR. Also going to be building an AR, but just going to do that with parts I can score cheap, wanna see how cheap I can build one.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 03, 2008, 07:34:28 PM
Next project is another AR-15. Currently in the process of finding parts to fit the Rock River lower that I acquired this past weekend.
That's easy. Just go to RRA's website and order the complete rifle kit. Has everything except for the lower. ;)
How can there be a rifle thread without the big one?
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll122/jph44/IMG_2611.jpg)
Heres my AR-50BMG.
I love the 10/22.
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/99Monster900/SAV0yGQcq3I/AAAAAAAABQk/HhZHk-ug8Sw/s800/IMG_1051.jpg)
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/99Monster900/SAV0smQcq1I/AAAAAAAABQQ/blBpsJrLBhk/s800/IMG_1049.jpg)
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/99Monster900/SAV05WQcq7I/AAAAAAAABRE/V82pVuPrHw4/s800/IMG_1055.jpg)
I want a 17HMR next, badly.
If pol. parties change this coming winter, I'll be getting an AR/AK though...
My father has a nice Winchester 1886 lever action. Made in the early 1890s (93 or 94). It's in amazing shape, still fires nicely. .45-70 government rounds, real manly big game cannon. It's blued with a dark stock and round barrel (vs octagon), not sure which model but it's bloody heavy. Keeps the recoil in check just by the heft of the frame.
that 10/22 is sick by the way.. I want to build one to shoot .17hm2
Get a savage for the HMR though. best shooting rifle for the money and you can work the accutrigger down to almost nothing.
I have a 93R17 GV, with a cheepie 4-9x40 scope and worked over trigger and was able to shoot coke cans at about 200 yards and paint balls at 100..
My buddie has a 93R17 BVTS with the thumbhole stock. that thing shoots very well, under a inch at 100yards.
I also have a Walther G22 and a Marlin model 60.
Quote from: john h on June 04, 2008, 06:34:30 AM
How can there be a rifle thread without the big one?
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll122/jph44/IMG_2611.jpg)
Heres my AR-50BMG.
BOOM! headshot!
8)
I have a Winchester Model 1894 30-30 (circa 1970) that I absolutely love. I much prefer level actions to bolt action.
I also have a Mossberg Model 44US .22L (circa 1945) that is toooo fun for plinnking. It weighs close to 9lbs, so there is no kick.
I just inherited a Remington 03A3 30-06, which I have yet to shoot.
Love the S&W AR15, have only gotten to shoot a couple of bricks as it is my home boys, but he is wanting to get rid of in an effort to be more responsible so I am first in line, and he has it all tact-out with bi-pod, sights and lights. Pretty sweet.
I also have an old school replica of cowboy lever action in .357 that is a tac driver and fun to shoot! And not as expensive to shoot when I throw 38 through her.
That is one sweet 50 and a darn nice 10/22
Quote from: NeufUnSix on June 04, 2008, 09:48:24 AM
My father has a nice Winchester 1886 lever action. . .45-70 government rounds, real manly big game cannon.
Just be aware, there are at least three different factory loadings for the .45-70 Government, and you can take a gun apart by firing the wrong load in the wrong gun!
There is a low-pressure load that is still produced for the old falling-block guns, there's a medium load for the lever actions like your dad's, and there's a full-house load intended only for modern bolt rifles.
You can't tell the loads apart just by looking at the loaded cartridges...you need to read the labeling on the cartridge box before you buy.
Good to know. He's had the same box of ammo for about 10 years, we've only shot it once in that time. It's more of an heirloom than a daily shooter, we don't even hunt big game so we have no use for it.
Found out today that I am being forced to spend next Thursday and Friday in a training class, being paid overtime, to get checked out with the MP5. I just hate work sometimes... :P
Quote from: john h on June 04, 2008, 06:34:30 AM
How can there be a rifle thread without the big one?
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll122/jph44/IMG_2611.jpg)
Heres my AR-50BMG.
The first time I shot one of those I decided that it should be changed to the AR-50BMFG ;D
Or, the BFG-9000 (if you're nasty)
Quote from: ato memphis on June 04, 2008, 07:33:43 PM
Or, the BFG-9000 (if you're nasty)
Here's a BFG:
(http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/Abrams_Pics/M1A1-Firing-07.jpg)
They're damn fun to shoot, too! [thumbsup]
The ammo is kinda expensive.
What happens if your main optics fail? do you have iron sights on that thing?
Quote from: He Man on June 04, 2008, 11:38:49 PM
What happens if your main optics fail? do you have iron sights on that thing?
I hear they rove in packs
Quote from: hbliam on June 04, 2008, 07:21:22 PM
Found out today that I am being forced to spend next Thursday and Friday in a training class, being paid overtime, to get checked out with the MP5. I just hate work sometimes... :P
Jerk [cheeky]
I have a Bushmaster M4A3 with a Leatherwood M-600 scope. I'll try and post a pic later.
That .22 is really sweet.
That 10/22 is a basic Ruger with lots of 'work', most of which you just add on:
Titanium Auto Bolt Release
BKL Unitized Scope Base/Rings
Mueller APV Scope with 3" Sunshade
ER Shaw Helical Fluted Bull Barrel (blued)
Bell & Carlsson Anschutz Style Stock
Lightly polished bolt
Extended Mag Release
Extended Bolt Handle
Volquartsen Extractor
Volquartsen "Stabilization Module" - Doesn't do a damn thing but look like a bad ass flash suppressor.
TEN22 Bolt Buffer
Some other things that didn't jump to mind.
Want a winter tinkering hobby besides the Monster? Buy a 10/22, and customize it to be yours. Its a lot of fun, my next will probably be a 10/22 converted to 17HM2. With more goodies. Its loads of fun and just as 'customizeable' as the Monster.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 03, 2008, 08:26:00 PM
How is the S&W AR? Been shopping around for an AR and have been leaning towards the DPMS AR. Also going to be building an AR, but just going to do that with parts I can score cheap, wanna see how cheap I can build one.
Had thoughts along the same lines, and found that DPMS might be worth steering clear of, based on info gleaned from AR15.com. The RRA kit is a good one. LMT makes great uppers and lowers. There are many. If buying a whole gun, I would probably go Colt.
I've heard good stuff about Sun Devil Mfg, out of Arizone (I believe). You can get the stuff through Rainier Arms shipped to your FFL. Which is a damn hassle, I know.
Quote from: ato memphis on June 05, 2008, 11:44:39 AM
Want a winter tinkering hobby besides the Monster? Buy a 10/22, and customize it to be yours. Its a lot of fun, my next will probably be a 10/22 converted to 17HM2. With more goodies. Its loads of fun and just as 'customizeable' as the Monster.
Amen to that- I've got mine from when I was a kid bangin around in my closet. Well not BANGIN in the gun sense but, you know what I mean. Anyhow... I've got it in my mind to convert it to one o' these:
(http://www.ironwooddesigns.com/SGpics/SGNsideLB.jpg)
Does anyone shoot M1 or M14's?
Lot of plastic and poodle guns around here... :-\
Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 05, 2008, 12:23:30 PM
Does anyone shoot M1 or M14's?
Lot of plastic and poodle guns around here... :-\
If I was going to shoot an M1 (30-06, right?), I might as well work with my .270 since I hunt with that.
My Ideal Stable:
Barrett Model 82A1/M107
AR15 Tactical (Working on getting)
Ruger 10/22 Bull Barrel and dressed up a little!
Remington 700 or and MP5, probably the MP5
What's the MP5 shoot, Rodeo? 9-mm? I would augment the .223 with something in 7.62/.308, for better stopping power.
I do like the PTR-91. Good point on the 308...
But for stopping power that is what the Barrett is for... [evil]
Quote from: RodeoClown on June 05, 2008, 01:30:20 PM
But for stopping power that is what the Barrett is for... [evil]
Yeah, but a middle-distance gun is handy. The Barrett is badass.
Quote from: RodeoClown on June 05, 2008, 01:30:20 PM
I do like the PTR-91. Good point on the 308...
But for stopping power that is what the Barrett is for... [evil]
also for causing hernias.
lemme see you hump that through some brush with a box of ammo.
or elbow it under some barb wire fence.
50bmg is useful, but very limited utility overall. 99% of what most people can hit with a 50, I can hit with a 7.62 and be much happier getting there.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 05, 2008, 12:23:30 PM
Does anyone shoot M1 or M14's?
Lot of plastic and poodle guns around here... :-\
I was looking at getting an M14 for awhile but ended up getting a shotgun for some variety instead. I really want to shoot them though and will probably end up getting one at some point.
Yeah, I still have the Benelli Nova 12ga pump also... but its nothing super special to write about. It works, perfect, like it should, but its nothing neato or unique.
Quote from: Smiling End on June 05, 2008, 01:58:53 PM
I was looking at getting an M14 for awhile but ended up getting a shotgun for some variety instead. I really want to shoot them though and will probably end up getting one at some point.
Quote from: ato memphis on June 05, 2008, 02:01:03 PM
Yeah, I still have the Benelli Nova 12ga pump also... but its nothing super special to write about. It works, perfect, like it should, but its nothing neato or unique.
this thread is about rifles, not smoothbores, shot, muskets or even firelocks.
Poop. I don't own enough to further participate then. Maybe one day. (Perhaps next Thursday)
Some of my toys (inside the safe):
I have an original Springfield M14/s "Bush" rifle, but it's boxed (recently moved stuff around).. I'd post a pic if I find it soon. IT is very sweet.
How many can you name?
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DML/101_0099.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DML/101_0100.jpg)
and an AOW smoothbore I keep in the car: (i had it in the house for cleaning)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DML/101_0103.jpg)
Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 05, 2008, 02:22:24 PM
snip
and an AOW smoothbore I keep in the car: (i had it in the house for cleaning)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DML/101_0103.jpg)
Do you drive one of these ;)
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3153/2554762536_ec6276ef0d.jpg)
Ducatizzzz- if it ever comes down to it just remember that I'm on your side.
Quote from: c_rex on June 05, 2008, 02:46:43 PM
Ducatizzzz- if it ever comes down to it just remember that I'm on your side.
dude, do you know how many people have said "when the SHTF, I'm coming to your house?"
I just tell them "Bring cases of ammo, a full tank of gas, and plenty of canned food and you're welcome"
(fyi, most of my collection is old stuff. my dad was a ww1/ww2 collector. has stuff from the various conflicts in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Spanish, Austrian, Portuguese (!), Russian, Finn, you name it, he loved collecting guns. I guess fleeing the Red Army does that to you...)
Quote from: bozcorob on June 05, 2008, 02:43:33 PM
Do you drive one of these ;)
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3153/2554762536_ec6276ef0d.jpg)
pic dead.
i drive a Volvo S70 and a Nissan SUV.
did i kill the thread? :(
Hells no.
Since I sold of all the guns I had at one time, I don't have much to offer other than the SKS already posted.
once I get more monies after getting a bike i'm looking into an M1A Socom ;D
(http://oleson-info.com/Gallery/albums/m1a/m1a_bipod2_Large.sized.jpg)
Quote from: Mac_48 on June 05, 2008, 04:30:32 PM
once I get more monies after getting a bike i'm looking into an M1A Socom ;D
that is the updated "bush" rifle. The old version (30 years ago) had a regular flash hider and no forward scope mount. otherwise identical.
i like that scope mount, but probably best with a collimator. the flash hider is supposed to be excellent.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 05, 2008, 01:46:27 PM
also for causing hernias.
lemme see you hump that through some brush with a box of ammo.
or elbow it under some barb wire fence.
50bmg is useful, but very limited utility overall. 99% of what most people can hit with a 50, I can hit with a 7.62 and be much happier getting there.
Just a box of ammo?I need more than that!It does suck to carry but after its set up who cares,I just want to shoot at things 800-1000 yards away.
Quote from: john h on June 05, 2008, 05:53:50 PM
Just a box of ammo?I need more than that!It does suck to carry but after its set up who cares,I just want to shoot at things 800-1000 yards away.
that's my point -- it is a great platform, but has limited utility -- and most people can't take advantage of the potential accuracy range.
1000 yds is just over 3 football fields -- not far at all for a potential target to sneak up to you -- and with a lighter rifle and ammo load, he'll do it once you're spotted.
that's why USMC et al only use the M82 for equipment and not personnel.
No pics of my own, but I bought this for my Dad for Father's Day
(http://www.berettausa.com/productphotos/rifles/TikkaT3_Lite_Stainless.jpg)
Tikka T3 in the new .338 Federal
Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 05, 2008, 02:22:24 PM
Some of my toys (inside the safe):
I have an original Springfield M14/s "Bush" rifle, but it's boxed (recently moved stuff around).. I'd post a pic if I find it soon. IT is very sweet.
How many can you name?
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DML/101_0099.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DML/101_0100.jpg)
and an AOW smoothbore I keep in the car: (i had it in the house for cleaning)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l309/ducatiz/DML/101_0103.jpg)
Sweet! Is that a walk in safe that is huge? That is a sweet collection. Is that one a winchester trench gun? That is nice....
back to rifles.
I am with you on luggin the Barrett around, but I plan on driving it where ever I have to go ;D
Speaking of war-vintage guns, how about one of these bad boys?
http://www.marstar.ca/gf-MG-34/MG-34-index.shtm
(http://www.marstar.ca/gf-MG-34/images/MG-34-Angle.jpg)
Reconditioned surplus MG-34s converted to semi-auto. In Canada they are classified as a long gun, same as any rifle or shotgun so anyone with a standard possession license can buy one.
4 grand though. They also sell Browning US military models.
And these beauties - reproduction semi-auto MP-38, MP-44, MP-3008, and MkB-42
http://www.marstar.ca/gf-SSD/index.shtm
Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 05, 2008, 06:15:57 PM
1000 yds is just over 3 football fields
I could've sworn it was 10.
Quote from: Rameses on June 05, 2008, 06:39:31 PM
I could've sworn it was 10.
Well, it is 8 1/3 if you count the endzones. :P
Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 05, 2008, 06:15:57 PM
1000 yds is just over 3 football fields --
I think you misread something.
1000 meters would be closer to 3 football fields
You can't beat a Ruger 10/22 for all-around plinking. :) I modified mine a tad ;) for home defense use.
As for hunting rifles for deer or similar critters, I tend to like the .243. Nice flat trajectory and they reach a loooong way out. I've spent a lot of time hunting in Montana and this caliber has become a fave.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 05, 2008, 07:17:22 PM
I think you misread something.
1000 meters would be closer to 3 football fields
1football field = 100 yards. minus endzone.
10 football fields = 1000 yards.
1000 yards is just the extreme range of what a 7.62 cant hit isnt it? Thats too risky of a shot if it is a high priority target if you ask me, you just dont have enough information about the conditions that far down. Now if we are talking 50cal. ive heard of shots up to 3 miles. thats over 17,000 yards. On a person? sure why not 50cal is more of an anti-material round. They have different rounds that can do a varying degree of damage to an IFV and the personell inside it.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 05, 2008, 07:17:22 PM
I think you misread something.
1000 meters would be closer to 3 football fields
Nope.
1000 meters would be even further from being 3 football fields than 1000 yards would be.
1000 meters is almost 11 football fields.
Damn ... feeling stoopid right now.
Scuse me while I got page thru a remedial math text book.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 05, 2008, 09:47:39 PM
Damn ... feeling stoopid right now.
Scuse me while I got page thru a remedial math text book.
[cheeky]
S'all good. We all have the occasional brainfart. ;)
Quote from: He Man on June 05, 2008, 08:21:44 PM
ive heard of shots up to 3 miles. thats over 17,000 yards.
17,000 yards is over 9-1/2 miles. 1760 yards in a mile.
Quote from: oldjackbob on June 06, 2008, 03:30:52 AM
17,000 yards is over 9-1/2 miles. 1760 yards in a mile.
Now I know why I love this site......Brothah feels at home! ;D
Per Wiki:
The longest range recorded for a sniper kill currently stands at 2,430 metres (2,657 yd, or 1.51 miles), accomplished by Corporal Rob Furlong, a sniper from Newfoundland, Canada, on March 2002 during the war in Afghanistan. Corporal Rob Furlong made this record-breaking kill while he was participating in Operation Anaconda, in March of 2002. He was serving with Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (PPCLI) at the time. To make the kill, he used a .50 caliber BMG (12.7 mm) McMillan TAC-50 bolt-action rifle.[8]
I MISREAD THE DAMN YARDAGE QUOTE, DAMMIT!!!
[bang]
i read it as feet, go figure. i was typing fast.
1000 yards = 10 football fields.
i read it as 1000 ft, which is why i said 'longer than 3 fields'
scuse me while i go pour out this crappy tequila!
Quote from: RodeoClown on June 06, 2008, 05:24:51 AM
Per Wiki:
The longest range recorded for a sniper kill currently stands at 2,430 metres (2,657 yd, or 1.51 miles), accomplished by Corporal Rob Furlong, a sniper from Newfoundland, Canada, on March 2002 during the war in Afghanistan. Corporal Rob Furlong made this record-breaking kill while he was participating in Operation Anaconda, in March of 2002. He was serving with Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (PPCLI) at the time. To make the kill, he used a .50 caliber BMG (12.7 mm) McMillan TAC-50 bolt-action rifle.[8]
Newsweek had a nice little write up about that a few years back. They did a story on Operation Viking Hammer and IIRC that was detailed in the article.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 05, 2008, 07:17:22 PM
I think you misread something.
1000 meters would be closer to 3 football fields
Maybe if you're Bigfoot [cheeky]
Quote from: RodeoClown on June 06, 2008, 05:24:51 AM
Per Wiki:
The longest range recorded for a sniper kill currently stands at 2,430 metres (2,657 yd, or 1.51 miles), accomplished by Corporal Rob Furlong, a sniper from Newfoundland, Canada, on March 2002 during the war in Afghanistan. Corporal Rob Furlong made this record-breaking kill while he was participating in Operation Anaconda, in March of 2002. He was serving with Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (PPCLI) at the time. To make the kill, he used a .50 caliber BMG (12.7 mm) McMillan TAC-50 bolt-action rifle.[8]
Yay Canada! I could make a Newfie joke involving hunting and moose, but it probably isn't appropriate seeing how he did kill someone.
I've had some great tasting Newfoundland moose stew and chili. Leading Tickles, Newfoundland one of the best lunch stops when I do the Targa Newfoundland Rally..
I've got a Benelli Super Black eagle, a Browning Citori, Both 12ga. and a Browning A-bolt 30-06.
I mostly bird hunt, using the Benelli for duck and the Citori for dove, pheasant, quail, sporting clays, ect.
I haven't shot the 30-06 in like 8 years so I'm considering selling it. What's the best way to do that? Find a dealer and sell it to them?
Post it on a gun boards classifieds, in the state like TN, one resident can face-to-face sell to another.
GunBroker.com is another way, using an FFL
Quote from: DucPete on June 06, 2008, 12:21:18 PM
I've got a Benelli Super Black eagle, a Browning Citori, Both 12ga. and a Browning A-bolt 30-06.
I mostly bird hunt, using the Benelli for duck and the Citori for dove, pheasant, quail, sporting clays, ect.
I haven't shot the 30-06 in like 8 years so I'm considering selling it. What's the best way to do that? Find a dealer and sell it to them?
I bought a 228 off a fellow on a different forum. Basically he sent it to my local shop and they did the FFL transfer. How much are you looking to get for the 06?
Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 05, 2008, 12:23:30 PM
Does anyone shoot M1 or M14's?
Lot of plastic and poodle guns around here... :-\
I shoot an M1 Carbine...does that count? ;D
Quote from: NeufUnSix on June 06, 2008, 10:29:40 AM
Yay Canada! I could make a Newfie joke involving hunting and moose, but it probably isn't appropriate seeing how he did kill someone.
It's not like he killed Mother Theresa. Plenty of people would do the world a better place by becoming worm food much faster.
Quote from: rgramjet on June 06, 2008, 01:13:55 PM
I shoot an M1 Carbine...does that count? ;D
points for old school, but it's basically a low power round. i like them, but since the load isn't used in anything else, i nevre got into them.
i tried to trim down my collection so i could keep my ammo carry to under 200 lbs when i go to the range.
With the folding paratrooper stock, its like a 30 round pistol! Fun as hell to shoot. Kinda like a 1022 but with a bigger bang.
Engage Armament, formerly "the gun shop in Kensington" has an original crate with 5 consecutive serial numbered SKSs still in cosmoline. Pretty tempting.
What are they getting for an SKS out your way?
These were "expensive".....right around $300 if memory serves me correctly. Unfired!
Quote from: rgramjet on June 06, 2008, 06:53:12 PM
These were "expensive".....right around $300 if memory serves me correctly. Unfired!
meh.. SKS is a great gun, but buying one "unfired" and paying a premium for it isn't wise to me. they are not collector items (esp the ChiCom ones). Many of the Chinese models have canted sights too (I have one that requires the front sight to be all the way to the left to be on target... erg).
If you have one that is solid and reasonably accurate, they are the perfect plinking or truck gun. you'll never get superior accuracy from one, but you will get decent, usable accuracy and good stopping power from the "30 Russian" round.
I haven't bought an SKS in a while (I have 4 or 5 of them, I forgot), but the last time I did buy one, it was $125 for a standard model made in China, with a spike bayo. I have 2 of the short-barrel versions too, which are much more usable IMHO and one of them is unusually accurate for an SKS with Wolf ammo. They both have spike bayos which is a JOKE since the bayonet is about 6" long.. not very usable. The short-barrel models were often called "Paratrooper" models, but they were never used by any military -- purely a commercial invention by B-West and the Chinese dutifully followed.
www.simonov.net has all you ever wanted to know about your SKS, plus Chinese factory codes so you can discover exactly which cons and slaves made your gun!
Looks like I'll have a big brother for the SKS very soon.
Found out my uncle has a Romanian AK that he'll part with for $150.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 07, 2008, 07:54:45 AM
Looks like I'll have a big brother for the SKS very soon.
Found out my uncle has a Romanian AK that he'll part with for $150.
There's a US company based out of North Carolina that I saw written up in Guns & Ammo that takes Romanian AK's and refurbs them completely and sells them for $350. Depending on the condition isn't $150 a lot?
This is there site http://www.ioinc.us/mm5/merchant.mvc (http://www.ioinc.us/mm5/merchant.mvc). A word of caution though, I've seen online that they were busted by the BATFE in 2004 for selling fully automatic weapons. If you buy anything from them make sure you're doing it legally.
Edit: I just checked their site after posting and they jacked up the price of the rifle to $700!!!! I'd say go for the $150.
Quote from: Smiling End on June 07, 2008, 09:58:29 AM
This is there site http://www.ioinc.us/mm5/merchant.mvc (http://www.ioinc.us/mm5/merchant.mvc). A word of caution though, I've seen online that they were busted by the BATFE in 2004 for selling fully automatic weapons. If you buy anything from them make sure you're doing it legally.
The full story.
QuoteUlrich Wiegand and others (North Carolina). Counsel for the Wiegand brothers and their company advised in an August 6, 2004, letter that they sell parts kits from which machine gun receivers have been destroyed but the barrels and other parts are salvageable. A federal indictment charged that the parts kits are “readily restorable†to machine guns, even though the models BATFE experts created either came apart after two shots were fired, or were completely remanufactured by BATFE experts, who have technical knowledge and welding skills not held by the average person.
The issue was whether the term “readily restorable†will be interpreted in accord with the rule of lenity to mean a simple mechanical operation, or broadly and vaguely to encompass what experts can produce. The original indictment charged 53 counts of unlawful machinegun transactions involving three types of machineguns, together with unrelated financial reporting violations.
After defense motions were filed, a superseding indictment was filed which dropped allegations that two of the three types of items were machineguns. After further motions and litigation, a favorable plea agreement was reached. On December 21, 2005, Ulrich Wiegand â€" who pled guilty to one misdemeanor recordkeeping violation â€" was sentenced to pay a $1000 fine and one year's probation.
The company, Inter Ordnance, which pled guilty to one NFA count, received a $10,000 fine. Oliver Wiegand, who pled guilty to a non-firearms financial reporting violation, received a $1000 fine. BATFE agreed that nothing in the case would be used to deny an FFL, so the business can continue. Moreover, the forfeiture of the parts kits was dismissed, and the kits will be returned to the company after further BATFE inspection.
All criminal charges dismissed.
No machine guns were involved.
"record keeping violations" and imposition of fines, and probation for one misdemeanor.
More harrassment by the ATF.
Figures that where I saw the story left that part out.
There's a local place by me that is going through the same problems. Just getting harassed by everyone it seems.
Quote from: Smiling End on June 07, 2008, 09:58:29 AM
There's a US company based out of North Carolina that I saw written up in Guns & Ammo that takes Romanian AK's and refurbs them completely and sells them for $350. Depending on the condition isn't $150 a lot?
This is there site http://www.ioinc.us/mm5/merchant.mvc (http://www.ioinc.us/mm5/merchant.mvc). A word of caution though, I've seen online that they were busted by the BATFE in 2004 for selling fully automatic weapons. If you buy anything from them make sure you're doing it legally.
Edit: I just checked their site after posting and they jacked up the price of the rifle to $700!!!! I'd say go for the $150.
Had my dad check it out for me. Apparently it's in great shape. His only comment was: "It's got a cheap looking plastic pistol grip and its just made out of stamped steel. Looks almost new."
I had to laugh at him, obviously he's never looked at an AK before.
He said my uncle doesn't really want to sell it, but if I want it, he'll sell it to me. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 07, 2008, 01:40:49 PM
Had my dad check it out for me. Apparently it's in great shape. His only comment was: "It's got a cheap looking plastic pistol grip and its just made out of stamped steel. Looks almost new."
I had to laugh at him, obviously he's never looked at an AK before.
He said my uncle doesn't really want to sell it, but if I want it, he'll sell it to me. [thumbsup]
Ah I love it. They make you feel guilty for buying it before you even buy it. My family does that stuff too. ;D
You talking about my pops or my uncle.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 07, 2008, 02:29:59 PM
You talking about my pops or my uncle.
Your pops. He probably wasn't trying to make you feel guilty but I just love those family conversations like, "X relative doesn't want to do Y but if you ask maybe then they will"
Here is my S&W MP15T along with my Kimber to keep it company. The M4orgery is a little different now, with an Eotech, tango down front grip and a surefire LED set-up...
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0068.jpg)
SKS update:
Just added a Tapco Fusion stock, still waiting on my red dot sight and 20 round mags.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f316/millertime355/001-1.jpg)
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 08, 2008, 12:06:19 PM
SKS update:
Just added a Tapco Fusion stock, still waiting on my red dot sight and 20 round clips.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f316/millertime355/001-1.jpg)
What did you go with for the red dot?
Going to try a Bushnell Trophy 1x32
(http://www.bushnell.com/images/products/73-0132P.jpg)
Quote from: rgramjet on June 06, 2008, 01:12:05 PM
I bought a 228 off a fellow on a different forum. Basically he sent it to my local shop and they did the FFL transfer. How much are you looking to get for the 06?
Sorry for the late response. Not entirely sure how much yet for the 06. This thread made me think about it and the fact that I'm probably not going to be using it much. I need to see what's market value.
Having recently been trying out a red dot scope I'm finding it very difficult to adjust to a 1x scope. I'm used to at least a 4x32 and I think even that is a bit light for my desire for pinpoint accuracy. It's probably best for making a hit but for one stop shotting I think I'm going back to a +power of some sort.
I like the way that Fusion looks. I may go that way for my 10/22 yet. There is a pretty cool receiver 'conversion' that will allow a 10/22 to utilize just about any AR15 aftermarket furniture but it's quite expensive when all is said and done. Probably 3x-4x the price of the rifle when all the pieces are assembled.
I was raised to use iron sights. The only time my pops ever let me use a scope was when he took me deer hunting.
Since then, I've only done some limited plinking with pistols and 22s. I figure the red dot won't be too much of a change, other than easier/faster target acquisition.
Look what came to my house today! ;D
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll122/jph44/IMG_2833.jpg)
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll122/jph44/IMG_2836.jpg)
40 1/2 pound exploding targets.You need to shoot them with any rifle .223 and bigger.
That stuff is loud and fun [thumbsup]
Last time we used that, the sheriff's swat team showed up.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on June 09, 2008, 02:21:30 PM
Last time we used that, the sheriff's swat team showed up.
I'm sure they needed the practice... [thumbsup]
figures, the Italians would put a muzzle brake on a shotgun
Quote from: Mother on June 09, 2008, 07:51:12 PM
figures, the Italians would put a muzzle brake on a shotgun
choke it, stroke it, holey bloke it. like those patterns nice and tight.
Quote from: silentbob on June 09, 2008, 07:48:54 PM
ROFLMAO- you slay me! no, no.. I'm not really a zombie... honest! What did that boom stick start out as? Wingmaster .20?
Quote from: silentbob on June 09, 2008, 08:32:18 PM
Well you my friend will last 4 times as long as the poor shmucks in the zombie movies- so I guess that means you got about 20 minutes out of that one gun. Good thing you've got all those others too!
After my 3 shots give out I will have to resort to fighting them off Ted Nugent style- "... buck nekid with nuthin but a survival knife..."
Quote from: c_rex on June 09, 2008, 10:12:26 PM
After my 3 shots give out I will have to resort to fighting them off Ted Nugent style- "... buck nekid with nuthin but a survival knife..."
That's a different thread.
A thread
I don't wan't to see. :P
[laugh]
Quote from: krolik on June 09, 2008, 10:39:34 PM
That's a different thread.
A thread I don't wan't to see. :P
[laugh]
http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=4414.0
[thumbsup]
Quote from: silentbob on June 09, 2008, 08:32:18 PM
I love the minishells. I bought a case of the Aquila slugs, which are hilarious looking but work very well. I had the ramp in my 870 modified to use them.
Did anyone ever get one of those s/g's that was made for minishells? (only uses them, nothing bigger). There were a couple made..
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/3000/3086.htm (http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/3000/3086.htm)
Anyone here ever used a Steyr Elite? Impressions?
Apparently they do good work - I haven't shot the elite, but the Steyr Maadi AK-47's were supposed to be top notch.
Quote from: ato memphis on December 16, 2008, 09:19:22 PM
Apparently they do good work - I haven't shot the elite, but the Steyr Maadi AK-47's were supposed to be top notch.
Steyr-Mannlicher, which makes the AUG, SSG and Elite, did not make the Maadi AK's. Those were imported by "Steyr USA, Inc" which is no longer associated with Steyr-Mannlicher (and is out of business).
ALl the Egyptian Maadi AK's were made by Egypt's Maadi Al-Fum arsenal on Soviet dies.
The real Steyr of Austria was never involved in the Maadi imports.
The Elite is the same receiver as the SSG. It's an awesome platform. I am not a fan of the stock they use, I prefer a full stock rather than a skeleton.
I know they do some unusual outsourcing deals though. The American version of the AUG is going to be licensed to Sabre in TN for manufacture under the Steyr name.
I had an SBS in 25-06 for a while.
Smoothest working action I have used that was made in the last 50 years.
Factory trigger broke like glass. No creep whatsoever.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on December 17, 2008, 06:36:08 AM
Steyr-Mannlicher, which makes the AUG, SSG and Elite, did not make the Maadi AK's. Those were imported by "Steyr USA, Inc" which is no longer associated with Steyr-Mannlicher (and is out of business).
ALl the Egyptian Maadi AK's were made by Egypt's Maadi Al-Fum arsenal on Soviet dies.
The real Steyr of Austria was never involved in the Maadi imports.
The Elite is the same receiver as the SSG. It's an awesome platform. I am not a fan of the stock they use, I prefer a full stock rather than a skeleton.
I know they do some unusual outsourcing deals though. The American version of the AUG is going to be licensed to Sabre in TN for manufacture under the Steyr name.
Wow, I did not know there was more than one Steyr. Well, now I feel better educated.
Oh man! A bunch of gun owning hooligans on this forum! The horror!
Oh wait, I am one too.
Some crappy photos of my Mossy and Rock River Arms
(http://www.photographybybryan.com/pictures/Mossberg500.jpg)
(http://www.photographybybryan.com/pictures/AR-RRA01.jpg)
P.S. I want a 1911 SOOOOOO bad. It's on my short list.
Quote from: ato memphis on December 17, 2008, 07:50:01 AM
Wow, I did not know there was more than one Steyr. Well, now I feel better educated.
No, no, it is just how many of the foreign gun companies work due to laws. They can't operate directly in the USA, so they have license their name or set up a separate subsidiary (either a manufacturer or an importer). So when you buy a Glock, it says it is made in Smyrna, Georgia NOT Austria because they have different laws if they are imported.
The former Steyr USA Inc was a licensee who had the right from Steyr-Mannlicher to sell and import guns under the Steyr name in the USA. They were the only place to get Steyr rifles from. They also decided (The US licensee) to import non-Steyr rifles, which might have (I have no way to know) PISSED off the Austrians since it meant a bunch of non-Mannlicher rifles got the "Steyr" name on them, and subsequently the licensee (I believe they are now called Guardian Arms) lost the right to sell/import guns as "Steyr"
This is a VERY common practice, but now most of the foreign gun companies sell under a subsidiary so they have better control.
Stoeger is separate from Benelli, but Benelli USA (a licensee) sells and guarantees Stoeger shotguns (hwich are made in Brazil, not Italy). Forjas Taurus used to be a licensee of S&W pistols until S&W got pissed that Taurus was selling copies of their pistols outside of the USA with the Taurus name on them.
Sauer Arms (germany) is a licensee of SIG (which is why SIG is known as SIG-Sauer) outside of Switzerland, due to Switzerland's arms export laws. Sauer set up a subsidiary in New Hampshire and that's why SIG frames are made in the USA..
and so on.
Quote from: MTBryan on December 17, 2008, 08:17:58 AM
Oh man! A bunch of gun owning hooligans on this forum! The horror!
Oh wait, I am one too.
Some crappy photos of my Mossy and Rock River Arms
(http://www.photographybybryan.com/pictures/Mossberg500.jpg)
(http://www.photographybybryan.com/pictures/AR-RRA01.jpg)
P.S. I want a 1911 SOOOOOO bad. It's on my short list.
How do you like the scope mounted on top of the carry handle? Ive got the RRA LAR8 flat top with a beast of a scope on it (6.5-24 x 50) and I just use the scope as a carry handle.
Ive got an AR15 build coming soon, hence my question.
Quote from: rgramjet on December 17, 2008, 10:40:13 AM
How do you like the scope mounted on top of the carry handle? Ive got the RRA LAR8 flat top with a beast of a scope on it (6.5-24 x 50) and I just use the scope as a carry handle.
Ive got an AR15 build coming soon, hence my question.
I was wondering if anyone would say anything about that. I don't like it up there at all. In fact, I took that photo right after I got the scope. 2 shots at the range, and I removed the carry handle and just have the scope mounted. I can't get my cheek-wedge properly with the scope on top.
I think the 4x scope is fine even at medium range. Since I mostly target shoot and plink with that mounted on the AR, it's fine just having the scope stand alone.
I do keep the red dot mounted on the shotgun, although I occasionally switch it over the the AR (have to re-zero though).
Eventually, I would like to get an Eotech and 3x magnifier that is adjustable from 1x to 3x for the AR. But DAMN, this stuff gets expensive, and my wallet only has so much wiggle room. I am trying to keep my Foggy going too! :)
I just got my AR a few months ago. What a joy to shoot! Accurate, easy recoil. I LOVE firing and plinking with that gun! The shotgun on the other hand. BOOOOOM ! ! !
Quote from: MTBryan on December 17, 2008, 11:15:31 AM
I was wondering if anyone would say anything about that. I don't like it up there at all. In fact, I took that photo right after I got the scope. 2 shots at the range, and I removed the carry handle and just have the scope mounted. I can't get my cheek-wedge properly with the scope on top.
I wouldnt put a full scope on the carry handle, esp if it's an A3 type. Too easy to get knocked around, plus the parallax is so great, it is useless IMHO unless you have a fixed range.
Collimator yes, red dot yes, but no scope more than 2-4x and only fixed glass.
ARMS has some great scope mounts for both A2 and A3 type uppers. They even make an offset type which mounts onto the A2 carry handle but the scope mounts forward and low. can't use it if you have the forward fixed sights tho.
I now have that same scope mounted right on the flat top without the iron sight/carry handle. It is very low and has the front sight right smack in the middle. But since the point of focus is much farther away, you can't even see the front sights through the scope.
I like shooting it that way the best since it is a more natural shooting position.
Stag Model 1 AR15
LMT Lower - upper coming soon
Springfield 1911 a1 highly customized (4lb consistent trigger pull and match barrel - reworked)
Remington .410
Winchester 30-30
NEF Ruger .204 cal varmint rifle (4300 feet per second velocity)
pics coming soon
I have a CZ model 527 FS in .223
Horus Talon
Magnification: variable 1 - 4x
Ocular Opening: 24mm
Diopter Setting: -2 to +1
Eye Relief: minimum 85mm
Body: aluminum 30mm tube
Color: black, non-reflective matte
Weight: 0.510kg (18 oz)
Parallax: fixed at 100m
Click Increment: 0.1 mil per click
Elev & Wind Adj Range: 22 mils
Illumination: yes
Quote from: ducpainter on December 17, 2008, 09:13:34 PM
I have a CZ model 527 FS in .223
i love those CZ rifles. the receivers are supposed to be some of the best made today. a buddy of mine has one in 7.62x39, which is a great mid range caliber for that gun.
the only mauser action rifle i have that isn't milsurp is a Kassnar "Churchhill Highlander" in .308. It's a beautiful gun, has a spoon bolt. The receivers and barrels are made by Breda of Italy. Kassnar only imported them for a short while, and I think they stopped because they underpriced them -- they only go for around 250-300 at gun shows. no iron sights tho, it is a scope-only gun.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on December 18, 2008, 08:26:28 AM
i love those CZ rifles. the receivers are supposed to be some of the best made today. a buddy of mine has one in 7.62x39, which is a great mid range caliber for that gun.
the only mauser action rifle i have that isn't milsurp is a Kassnar "Churchhill Highlander" in .308. It's a beautiful gun, has a spoon bolt. The receivers and barrels are made by Breda of Italy. Kassnar only imported them for a short while, and I think they stopped because they underpriced them -- they only go for around 250-300 at gun shows. no iron sights tho, it is a scope-only gun.
The only thing that would make this a better choice for my purposes was if it was 308 or 7.62x39.
I saw the thing and had to have it. It really is a beautiful piece of workmanship.
I got this used and it came with a scope... Nikon 3-9x...they make good optics generally although I have no experience with anything but their cameras.
The rear sight was removed to mount the scope and it's missing. I bet I could get one.
(http://www.cz-usa.com/data/productimg/main009.png)
Quote from: ducpainter on December 18, 2008, 09:16:26 AM
The only thing that would make this a better choice for my purposes was if it was 308 or 7.62x39.
I saw the thing and had to have it. It really is a beautiful piece of workmanship.
most of the folks i know who use 7.62x39 for other than plinking use the Mini-30 or the SKS with some tweaks to make up for the shortcomings (i.e. it's a military rifle, not really a truck gun).
AIA from australia made an Enfield based rifle using that round. Don't know if you like Enfields, but I tried it and loved it. I already have an Ishapore Enfield in 7.62x51, and I am not looking for another one. http://www.australianinternationalarms.com.au/product.htm (they don't currently have a distributor in the USA so maybe not an option for a while...)
.223 in that receiver seems kind of small, but i bet the rifle is rock solid.
I've seen all their work and was very impressed, they really put a lot of finish into them.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on December 18, 2008, 10:23:13 AM
<snip>
.223 in that receiver seems kind of small, but i bet the rifle is rock solid.
I've seen all their work and was very impressed, they really put a lot of finish into them.
It is...and it is.
Still it's fine for varmints large and small and with a well placed shot will drop a deer.
CZ chose a slow twist so anything over 60 grains probably won't be the ticket.
I've only had a chance to fire it a few times but the thing seems very accurate.
Like I said, I saw it and recognized it as a quality piece...had to...couldn't help myself. ;D
Quote from: ducpainter on December 18, 2008, 12:47:04 PM
It is...and it is.
Still it's fine for varmints large and small and with a well placed shot will drop a deer.
CZ chose a slow twist so anything over 60 grains probably won't be the ticket.
around me 223 is banned for taking deer, which is bullshit, but that's the law. imho, to get a hunting license you should be able to make a kill shot at least 75% of the time in a test, but that's just me (MOST hunters are no problem on this..) (grumble grumble)
i've tried to explain why 1:9 is different than 1:12 and the response is usually "which is better?" dor. just use the right weight for the right twist and be happy.
all of my 223 rifles are 1:9 or 1:8. i like to shoot heavier projectiles, which are great for <300 yd performance.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on December 18, 2008, 01:12:16 PM
around me 223 is banned for taking deer, which is bullshit, but that's the law. imho, to get a hunting license you should be able to make a kill shot at least 75% of the time in a test, but that's just me (MOST hunters are no problem on this..) (grumble grumble)
i've tried to explain why 1:9 is different than 1:12 and the response is usually "which is better?" dor. just use the right weight for the right twist and be happy.
all of my 223 rifles are 1:9 or 1:8. i like to shoot heavier projectiles, which are great for <300 yd performance.
223 is legal in NH.
50-55 gr NBT should be just about right for this...for any target.
Quote from: ducpainter on December 18, 2008, 01:18:20 PM
223 is legal in NH.
50-55 gr NBT should be just about right for this...for any target.
lucky you. have to use at least 6.5mm here, but all 22/5mm/223/222/224 are banned for hunting anything bigger than 30 lbs. (or is it 40? i fergit)
i've never used the NBTs but I hear they are very nice.
of course, shooting fish is legal in NH too, isn't it? or is that Vermont?
Quote from: ducatizzzz on December 18, 2008, 01:22:17 PM
lucky you. have to use at least 6.5mm here, but all 22/5mm/223/222/224 are banned for hunting anything bigger than 30 lbs. (or is it 40? i fergit)
i've never used the NBTs but I hear they are very nice.
of course, shooting fish is legal in NH too, isn't it? or is that Vermont?
Dunno...
It's easier to get 'em with flies or worms. ;)
Quote from: ducpainter on December 18, 2008, 01:27:05 PM
Dunno...
It's easier to get 'em with flies or worms. ;)
ah, it is Vermont
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9503E2DD133CF932A25756C0A9629C8B63 (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9503E2DD133CF932A25756C0A9629C8B63)
Finally got around to shooting our inherited Winchester Model 70 in .270 Weatherby Mag this fall -- I didn't draw an elk tag, but a friend did and was sighting in his guns & I tagged along. Fun day of shooting, and then I went to replace the ammo. Sweet mother of... $45-$85 for a box of 20 cartridges! :o Guess I'm going to have to learn hand loading...
Other than that, we've got a box-stock 10/22 in the house (though this thread gives me some ideas) and a single-shot lever action 22LR (Ithaca, I think). While out with the .270, I fired my buddy's lever action .44 Marlin, and have become really enamored of the idea of a gun that can plink with .44 special ammo & hunt (at moderate ranges) with .44 magnum.
Quote from: ducpainter on December 18, 2008, 01:18:20 PM
223 is legal in NH.
50-55 gr NBT should be just about right for this...for any target.
This is tearing a hole in my universe.....I think DP is coming around! [thumbsup]
Quote from: ducpainter on December 18, 2008, 01:27:05 PM
Dunno...
It's easier to get 'em with flies or worms or Dynamite. ;)
Fixed it.
Quote from: rgramjet on December 18, 2008, 02:53:42 PM
This is tearing a hole in my universe.....I think DP is coming around! [thumbsup]
I'm actually not very round... ;D
We really can't talk about it here but...
Gun ownership is legal.
I bought a nice one. ;)
Quote from: triangleforge on December 18, 2008, 02:03:07 PM
I fired my buddy's lever action .44 Marlin, and have become really enamored of the idea of a gun that can plink with .44 special ammo & hunt (at moderate ranges) with .44 magnum.
I love my Marlin lever .44. I was hoping to take a deer this year with it but I only hunted fields for the most part. Nice to have the dual round option. Ill start my 6 year old with the .44 Specials when the time comes.
Quote from: triangleforge on December 18, 2008, 02:03:07 PM
Finally got around to shooting our inherited Winchester Model 70 in .270 Weatherby Mag this fall -- I didn't draw an elk tag, but a friend did and was sighting in his guns & I tagged along. Fun day of shooting, and then I went to replace the ammo. Sweet mother of... $45-$85 for a box of 20 cartridges! :o Guess I'm going to have to learn hand loading...
save your brass!! 270 W is a 300HH case opened up, i believe
QuoteOther than that, we've got a box-stock 10/22 in the house (though this thread gives me some ideas) and a single-shot lever action 22LR (Ithaca, I think). While out with the .270, I fired my buddy's lever action .44 Marlin, and have become really enamored of the idea of a gun that can plink with .44 special ammo & hunt (at moderate ranges) with .44 magnum.
i have a late model 1892 which eats 45LC. i wish i had gotten one in .357 as they also do .38 just fine -- ammo much cheaper.
is 44spl that much cheaper than 44 mag??
Not so much cheaper, just less bark.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on December 19, 2008, 06:01:49 AM
save your brass!! 270 W is a 300HH case opened up, i believe
i have a late model 1892 which eats 45LC. i wish i had gotten one in .357 as they also do .38 just fine -- ammo much cheaper.
is 44spl that much cheaper than 44 mag??
Yup, I kept all the brass! Thanks for the tip on .357 -- I'll keep my eyes open at the local shop.
Quote from: triangleforge on December 19, 2008, 04:25:08 PM
Yup, I kept all the brass! Thanks for the tip on .357 -- I'll keep my eyes open at the local shop.
mine is a "saddle ring" 1892 with the hanging ring off the receiver and the super-large lever loop. i am always amazed how small it is. the only fault i have with it is the caliber (45LC) which is more expensive to shoot and VERY down on power. 45LC is about 10% more bite than 44 spl, which is not very harsh by modern standards. shooting 45 LC in a rifle gives almost unnoticeable kick and fairly slow travel -- slower than typical 45ACP
similar to mine, but with the regular lever loop:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2112/2556476262_21c4894aee.jpg?v=0)
Well I'm very late to this thread ...
But here is my 1976 10/22 [bacon]
(http://a918.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/18/l_f86e07bce34166a7aaf1aac28091c02d.jpg)
~DaVe
i love the 10/22 but i never got one
i have an old funky Marlin 989 M2 which is a copy of the M1/M2 carbine (but not full auto obviously)
I think it was made in 1968 or so. Very old. it has a serial # so it has to be 68 or later.
The safety is a little sign that says "Safety: don't pull the trigger if you don't want the damn gun to fire, dumbass!" (i keeed i keeed)
I've put probably half a million rounds thru it since i got it, around 1980. With glass, I can nail pretty much anything out to about 125 yds, beyond that it gets iffy.
My personal faves out of my cabinet:
(http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo118/Speedbag/2008_1220Image0001.jpg)
Top is (was) a Ruger 10/22, now slightly modified for in-house use ;).
Bottom is a Ruger M77R in .243 cal. Best deer rifle I've ever carried.
Ive been eyeballing bullpups for a while now. How do you like the 10/22 kit? Which one is it?
It's pretty cool, although they're a no-frills thing. Mine's a Muzzlelite.
Someday I'll get a Valmet M82
I have an M72. I love Valmets.
(http://world.guns.ru/assault/valmet_82-1.jpg)
Like a pistol with a stock.......how long is the barrel on that thing?
Quote from: rgramjet on December 21, 2008, 07:59:57 AM
Like a pistol with a stock.......how long is the barrel on that thing?
16"!!
the receiver is all the way at the back -- it is a modified AK receiver
Very cool, love the projection on the bullpups or lack thereof!
Thinking about HK SL8
theres one near me for a average price.. ugly gun, but supposedly a very good shooter with very good quality.
any opinions?
Quote from: ducatizzzz on December 19, 2008, 06:01:49 AM
save your brass!! 270 W is a 300HH case opened up, i believe
the 270 winchester is actually a 30-06 cartridge necked down to fit the .270 bullet
Yes, but the 270 WEATHERBY referred to in the post is a modified 300 H+H.
it was, my bad too many [drink] before jumping on the computer
No biggie. The "W" in that instance is kind of ambiguous. [beer]