GUN STUFF

[GAAN]

The only AR-15/M-16 I've ever seen fail/Jam/Break was a RRA, they don't seem to like reloads

[ducpainter]

The only AR-15/M-16 I've ever seen fail/Jam/Break was a RRA, they don't seem to like reloads

OAL comes in to play on many bramds chambers.

Generally the more precise the parts the less variation from spec they'll work with.

If Glock made it it would chamber the wrong caliber. (flame suit on)

I don't think you can necessarily blame the weapon without having some details.

[fastwin]

Anyway, the chamber on that rifle is at the back end of a GG&G upper. I don't reload so what I shoot is factory fresh. I'm just saying the RR lower is tight and well made. One of my friend's buddies that joins us for dove hunts and mancations at his west TX ranch has a complete RR AR and he really likes it. I've shot his and he's shot mine. They do what they're supposed to. But again, that's factory ammo... mostly semi-cheap Federal American Eagle 55grn/fmj plinking shit. Your mileage may vary.

[GAAN]

OAL comes in to play on many bramds chambers.

Generally the more precise the parts the less variation from spec they'll work with.

If Glock made it it would chamber the wrong caliber. (flame suit on)

I don't think you can necessarily blame the weapon without having some details.

one would assume that if the round fits in the mag the oal is fine and the rifle should chamber it and fire it

especially since it had thier wylde chamber

but

I'm no expert, it's just what I experienced

that and the bolt catch breaking

and it failing to strip rounds from magazines

and the bolt locking forward and having to beat on the charging handle to get the round out

<me, not a RRA fan>

[ducpainter]

one would assume that if the round fits in the mag the oal is fine and the rifle should chamber it and fire it

especially since it had thier wylde chamber

but

I'm no expert, it's just what I experienced

that and the bolt catch breaking

and it failing to strip rounds from magazines

and the bolt locking forward and having to beat on the charging handle to get the round out

<me, not a RRA fan>

I'm no expert either, but there is more to it than just OAL.

Bullet shape can cause issues, hollow points especially, and just because it will fit in the mag doesn't mean all that much.

You can put .380 and 9x18 in the same mag. Doesn't mean it's gonna work well in the wrong chamber.

My point wasn't to assert that RRA was good or bad...that type of weapon isn't my thing.

Just that not all reloads are created equal.

[Dannyboy]

Had no idea they dropped 1911s. Wow! Wonder if the market if just flooded with too many 1911 manufacturers right now? You'd think that would be the same problem for AR platforms... if that's even the case with the 1911s. Not that I need another 1911 but the Rock River .45s I have seen were very nice. Bet you can still find one. It's not like they are treasured collectors items yet. Just a damn well made auto pistol.

I think they just got so overwhelmed with people wanting AR's when whatshisname was coming into office that they pretty much just started concentrating on those.  They od still make pistol parts but not complete ones.

[fastwin]

Maybe when the dust settles over the AR excitement they will come back to square one and start making 1911s again. Hey, I hope they make a ton of $$$ on AR sales if it's more profitable than 1911s. Good for them! Everyone and the horse they rode in on seems to be making AR type rifles these days. It's hard to keep up with the Joneses!

[WarrenJ]

One thing that helps when reloading for semi-autos is to use a "small base" resizing die.  A conventional reloading die does not return the case all the way back to factory specs.  If you are reloading for a bolt action rifle and using the fired brass in the same rifle, it is not necessary to resize the case all the way back to factory - in fact it typically improves accuracy to minimally resize the case, providing a tight fit in the chamber.  (keep an eye on case length though)

In semi-autos, a small base die will take the case nearly all the way back to factory specs.  This makes for far better reliability in semi-autos but reduces case life by work hardening the brass more. 

In personal experience, I have not had an issue using standard dies for 223 but have found it to be a serious problem in 308 and 30-06 in the M1A and Garand respectively. 

The main issue I have found with 223 reload reliability is case length.  The AR system can stretch cases badly and if they are not trimmed back nearly every reload, you will get chambering issues and high pressures due to interference with the bullet leaving the case as the longer case neck is jammed into the throat of the barrel. 


Getting a case gage is good insurance for checking reloads for reliability.  I've probably reloaded about 15,000 rnds of 223 in the last year or so.

[Radar]

When I bought my 1911 based Premier II from Les Baer, I was also looking at the Rock River Arms pistols. As I recall, from about 10 or 12 years ago, it was common knowledge that RR's founders came from Baer's shop.

I also think I remember RR's 1911s were not "certified" for sale in California.

...a word of caution about keeping your guns safe...

Two years ago I was burglarized. The crooks cut through my safe with a torch and emptied it of 22 firearms. There were some real gems in there, and I hated to lose them.

The police put on a bit of a show but ultimately did nothing.

The point is this: Although I had a quality safe, my guns were still vulnerable. I now rely on concealment as well the safe. They first have to find the safe; they then have to get into it.

Sorry if this type of thing has already been covered...

Eric M.

[cokey]

Was it a cheaper model, or are most all vulnerable to torches?

[ducatiz]

FWIR, Colt's no longer sells to the public at all except for the Cowboy action revolvers.

[fastwin]

When I bought my 1911 based Premier II from Les Baer, I was also looking at the Rock River Arms pistols. As I recall, from about 10 or 12 years ago, it was common knowledge that RR's founders came from Baer's shop.

I also think I remember RR's 1911s were not "certified" for sale in California.

...a word of caution about keeping your guns safe...

Two years ago I was burglarized. The crooks cut through my safe with a torch and emptied it of 22 firearms. There were some real gems in there, and I hated to lose them.

The police put on a bit of a show but ultimately did nothing.

The point is this: Although I had a quality safe, my guns were still vulnerable. I now rely on concealment as well the safe. They first have to find the safe; they then have to get into it.

Sorry if this type of thing has already been covered...

Eric M.

Damn, my worse make the beast with two backsing nightmare, them coming after all my bikes would be second. Screw the TV and my wife's jewelry!! Man, they must have known about your safe and maybe your guns. Normal house burglars don't bring a torch along. My wife and I worked in our county's criminal courthouse for years and dealt with nothing but felony crooks and their cases every day. At least a 1,000 a year. We have also both served on several state felony grand juries in our county. We have seen it all and then some and we both think like crooks because of it. It's not a bad thing. Our radar is up 24/7/365! We live in a damn Fort Knox and still worry. Even then they can still get to your stuff and that's what drives us crazy! I make the beast with two backsing hate thieves and would gladly shoot every one I could!

Sorry you lost your firearms. The bikes are one thing but the guns will be sold and used on the black market for criminal use. It would kill me to know one of my stolen guns was used in a crime where someone was killed or hurt. Damn bastards!

[Radar]

Yeah...

The safe was of very high quality. I kept my safe in my shop. But it was in a solid concrete cinder block room blocked off from the rest of the building.  They cut through my fence, broke into my shop, broke into the cinder-block room inside my shop and used MY tanks to attach THEIR cutting tip.

I had all my cutting tools locked inside the safe, along with my photography gear and guns. They had obviously broken in and scoped out the situation. They came back with their own cutting tip and went to town.

They beat up my dog, too.

During certain times of the year, I don't get out to the shop much...

If the crooks want what you have, they will get it. I'm out in the country, and I live alone, so I'm pretty vulnerable.  But there's nothing I can do about it.

...except, get out of California... I've grown to hate it here.

May you never experience such heartache.

Alluding to my earlier post, hide your safe. Build something around it, bury it or camouflage it. Do what ever you can to hide it.

Eric M.

 

[Radar]

Oh, and if by some miracle I'd have caught them in action, or if I somehow ever found out who was involved, I would kill them.

My only concern would be how hard it would be to dig the hole deep enough that the cadaver dogs wouldn't notice...

...after all, they beat up my dog...

...nuff said...

Eric M.

[WarrenJ]

A friend of mine laminated the door to his safe room with some foam type insulation that gave off some pretty nasty, semi toxic, smoky fumes to make the burning process a bit more unpleasant than usual.