Looking to replace my 02 F150.
Looked at the Tundra, F150 and Titan.
Tundra has the most power, tq and towing, but comparably equipped is by far the most expensive.
F150 is within $1000 of the Titan with comparable options, but has lower power, tq and towing.
I like the Titan, but would like to hear some personal experiences with it. My dad has an 06, but doesn't use it for much more than a grocery getter...
You know what I would recommend. ;D
But regarding the Nissan.
Nissan will stop producing their own Titan this year and begin selling a rebadged version of the Dodge Ram as a Nissan Titan for 2010.
That should speak volumes.
Have you considered the Dodge? I've had 2(3 if you count the Ram van) and had very good experience with them. Reliable, roomy, and take a beatin'.
Seriously? I hadn't heard that!
I know what you would recommend, now if I could just get your pricing to go with it... ;D
Quote from: Bun-bun on January 14, 2009, 06:10:16 PM
Have you considered the Dodge? I've had 2(3 if you count the Ram van) and had very good experience with them. Reliable, roomy, and take a beatin'.
Yes and no. I had considered a diesel, but realize I don't need anything like that right now. I know the diesels are stout, but have heard mixed reviews about their gasoline engines. The new "bed toolbox" thing is kinda cool though...
tundra all the way! the only reason i dont have one already is that its not a diesel.
the titan is hideous. i have heard really good thing about the new F150, but i am a little gun shy of american vehicles at the moment.
My F150 has been good to me. I've towed a lot, hauled a lot, daily driver, 77K miles all on the 4.2 V6.
But I don't see how the Titan is ugly but the Tundra isn't? They look pretty similar to me...
(http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2008/Toyota/2008.toyota.tundra.20160866-300x189.jpg)
(http://www.truckswebsite.com/images/nissan-titan.jpg)
Quote from: herm on January 14, 2009, 06:30:54 PM
(http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/2008/Toyota/2008.toyota.tundra.20160866-300x189.jpg)
(http://www.truckswebsite.com/images/nissan-titan.jpg)
And? ???
Nice looking truck C..plus..
they can certainly take a hit by any 16 y/o in daddy's Land Rover!!
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on January 14, 2009, 05:41:26 PM
Nissan will stop producing their own Titan this year and begin selling a rebadged version of the Dodge Ram as a Nissan Titan for 2010.
That should speak volumes.
yes and no
Chrysler sells a rebadged Versa in teh states, and Dodge sells rebadged Nissans in most of South America.
Nissan has had a hard time selling the big truck but that's mainly due to their history of selling small trucks and being very new ot the big truck arena (and now with the economy and gas prices of late)
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/articlelive/blogs/60/Will-Dodge-Build-Rams-for-Nissan.html (http://www.turbodieselregister.com/articlelive/blogs/60/Will-Dodge-Build-Rams-for-Nissan.html)
Quote from: NAKID on January 14, 2009, 06:32:56 PM
And? ???
i just dont think the look alike.
at least no more alike than a gmc or ford these days
Similar, not the same. I don't think either one of them are STUNNING, but I don't think the Titan looks worse than anything else out there. I am partial to Nissan, but I'm not decided yet...
A good friend of mine has a 2006 Titan. He is a serious wood shaper (he was general contractor on his own renovation and made his own cabinets), workshop nut (welds, makes his own aluminum parts and retooled my old oven to work for powdercoating) and extreme sport nut (mountain biking, snow boarding, climbing, etc). All that was for context when I say the only people I know who haul less stuff are using their trucks daily in the construction business.
The number one thing he likes about the Titan is the truck's bed and the adjustable tie down points. His next favorite is how wide the rear doors open and how much hauling space is avail in the back of the cab. I'm a GMC guy myself and was impressed by both in comparison to my truck (Sierra Denali). I was less impressed by the engine (has great stats but felt like it had to be wound up and that it had a higher torque curve). Ride was OK. Can't speak to towing.
I like some of the new features of the new Dodge (the wheel well storage area is one of those "why didn't i think of that" moments IMO), but I haven't driven them in a while. The new Fords are tight and I love the 07+ model of the Sierra's.
Per the stats on manufacturer's websites, the Titan (as well as the 5.7L Tundra engine) make max tq at 3600rpm. The Titan makes 385, the Tundra 401.
Honestly, I think the only thing keeping me from getting the Tundra over the Titan is the price...
Quote from: NAKID on January 14, 2009, 06:57:37 PM
Honestly, I think the only thing keeping me from getting the Tundra over the Titan is the price...
Tundra is a NICER looking truck!
Flat black one with all black accessories at Seattle bike show last year. I've been wanting one ever since!
Quote from: NAKID on January 14, 2009, 06:57:37 PM
Honestly, I think the only thing keeping me from getting the Tundra over the Titan is the price...
I'm too poor to buy cheap......
Seriously-Toyota makes a really excellent truck. Get something that'll last-you won't regret it. ;)
Less expensive doesn't mean cheap.
Not one complaint about my '04 F150. I plan to keep it until it either stops running or the cab rots off the frame. [thumbsup]
Only reason I want to get rid of mine is that I really need a 4WD for up here and the back (supercab) is getting a bit small for the kids. I need a full size back seat...
Quote from: herm on January 14, 2009, 06:18:19 PM
tundra all the way! the only reason i dont have one already is that its not a diesel.
the titan is hideous. i have heard really good thing about the new F150, but i am a little gun shy of american vehicles at the moment.
Why? The F-150 was only the best selling vehicle in the US last year. Oh yeah, it's been number 1 for the past 26 years as well. Just because GM and Chrysler are begging for your tax dollars to pay their ridiculous fees to the UAW scumbags, that doesn't mean you can't trust Ford!
Best selling does not mean the best product. :P
Quote from: nateqwik on January 14, 2009, 08:21:08 PM
Why? The F-150 was only the best selling vehicle in the US last year. Oh yeah, it's been number 1 for the past 26 years as well. Just because GM and Chrysler are begging for your tax dollars to pay their ridiculous fees to the UAW scumbags, that doesn't mean you can't trust Ford!
McDonald's makes a better hamburger than my mom because they sell more of them? Really?
Oh, and for all you Tundra fanboys, I personally manufactured the carpet for 1/3rd of ALL Tundra's from the year they were launched until 2007, and they use CHEAP CRAP for their interiors! I worked for Collins and Aikman Inc. in Old Fort NC for 11 years and have personally molded interior carpet for practically any vehicle you see on the road today. Toyota uses cheap material and Jacks the price up because they have the reputation as a dependable vehicle. My $0.02.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 14, 2009, 08:29:39 PM
McDonald's makes a better hamburger than my mom because they sell more of them? Really?
No.. but they probably make more money than your mom at selling burgers, don't they?
Quote from: trouble on January 14, 2009, 08:27:03 PM
Best selling does not mean the best product. :P
True, but you can't argue with the numbers, now can you?
Quote from: nateqwik on January 14, 2009, 08:31:22 PM
No.. but they probably make more money than your mom at selling burgers, don't they?
Unlikely-my mom hasn't asked for a government bailout. ;D
Quote from: nateqwik on January 14, 2009, 08:21:08 PM
Why? The F-150 was only the best selling vehicle in the US last year. Oh yeah, it's been number 1 for the past 26 years as well. Just because GM and Chrysler are begging for your tax dollars to pay their ridiculous fees to the UAW scumbags, that doesn't mean you can't trust Ford!
The F150 has been the best selling because they have a large loyal customer base and are the best priced (read lowest) full size trucks on the market.
I can say this cause I own one. ;D
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 14, 2009, 08:33:56 PM
Unlikely-my mom hasn't asked for a government bailout. ;D
Sorry pal.... Their one of the few big corporations not walking around with their hand out right now.
Quote from: NAKID on January 14, 2009, 08:34:17 PM
The F150 has been the best selling because they have a large loyal customer base and are the best priced (read lowest) full size trucks on the market.
I can say this cause I own one. ;D
And are you happy with yours? Look, I personally like the Titan, But I have two friends who own Tundras and can't stand them.
Quote from: nateqwik on January 14, 2009, 08:35:54 PM
Sorry pal.... Their one of the few big corporations not walking around with their hand out right now.
OK, I think all of us are getting off the subject. Let's get back to discussing the pros and cons of each so I can make an informed decision...
Have you checked consumer reports?
Quote from: nateqwik on January 14, 2009, 08:32:19 PM
True, but you can't argue with the numbers, now can you?
Actually it's not too hard to even argue the numbers.
the GM 1500 platform outsells the Ford it's just divided on the charts between the Silverado and the Sierra.
Ford, GM and Dodge all make kick ass trucks. Arguing which is better is a fools game.
Quote from: COWBOY on January 14, 2009, 09:31:35 PM
Actually it's not too hard to even argue the numbers.
the GM 1500 platform outsells the Ford it's just divided on the charts between the Silverado and the Sierra.
Ford, GM and Dodge all make kick ass trucks. Arguing which is better is a fools game.
Excellent point sir. [bow_down]
Having just spent a month shopping trucks (all 2wd, all 09's 'cept the Toyota, they didn't have any):
Ford: Didn't drive one as the 2004 that I bought went through 2 transmissions in 17K miles. Fit and finish was poor with parts falling off, headliner coming out, paint quality poor.
Toyota: The double cab is ugly IMO with the way the rear window slopes forward. The crew looks ok but I'm still not partial to the front end. Truck was fast and rode nice. I was quoted $33-36 depending on options before tax. I am a Toyota guy, I've owned three so far.
Chevy: Tried to drive one but the sales guy was "too busy". He also quoted me about 33K to 36K pre tax. He did mention that he heard the new Dodge was a great truck. Dumbass.
Nissan: Ugly. No point in even looking at them.
Dodge: I've never liked the look of the Dodge but the new (09) body style is nice. Squared up a bit and with the sport model you get color matched bumpers, handles, mirrors, etc. 390/410 HP/TQ compared to Nissan at 317/385 and Toyota at 381/401. Also has a MDS motor that shuts off half the cylinders on the freeway so 14/20 MPG compared to Toyota at 13/17. With navigation (head and shoulders above what Toyota is offering and I have nav in my 4Runner), sat radio (free subscription for a year as well) bluetooth, remote start, power everything, dual zone air, tow package, crew cab (back seat has almost as much room as the front), storage galore, rear coil suspension instead of leaf springs (rides like a luxury car), etc, etc. $29700 plus tax from a 42K sticker. You can guess what I bought.
Quote from: NAKID on January 14, 2009, 08:38:39 PM
OK, I think all of us are getting off the subject. Let's get back to discussing the pros and cons of each so I can make an informed decision...
OK, buy another F150. [cheeky]
TuNDRa!
m's is silver, and a really nice vehicle, for a truck.
the back is very roomy too, with tons of storage compartments, etc.
and very comfortable!
have you looked for a slightly used one?
Haven't read all of this thread, but the Titan and Armada are Nissans worse 2 vehicles in terms of reliability, customer satisfaction, and resale.
Nissan didn't get the drive train beefy enough IMO, and it has caused a lot of differential and transmission problems.
mitt
Also, the ONLY reason the F150 is the best selling truck in America, is because GM is to stooopid to brand their 1500 truck under 1 name. If you combine the GMC and Chevy 1/2 tons, they outsell the F150 easy.
mitt
I think the new Tundra sucks also. The previous Tundra model filled a nitch market, and was a nice dependable truck for average consumers had average size garages and didn't need to tow 10,000lbs and have 400hp. Now the Tundra is directly competing with Ford/GM/Dodge, which have been making good real 1/2 ton trucks for a long time, and are still arguable the best.
mitt
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 14, 2009, 08:52:52 PM
Have you checked consumer reports?
Consumer reports is not nice with respect to the Titan/Armada line
mitt
Quote from: mitt on January 15, 2009, 06:51:03 AM
Consumer reports is not nice with respect to the Titan/Armada line
mitt
How is it to the other beasties mentioned?
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 15, 2009, 06:54:15 AM
How is it to the other beasties mentioned?
I will have to look tonight at home. I just got the latest CR auto guide last night, and glanced at the Nissan models ( I am generally a Nissan fan ).
mitt
Quote from: nateqwik on January 14, 2009, 08:21:08 PM
Why? The F-150 was only the best selling vehicle in the US last year. Oh yeah, it's been number 1 for the past 26 years as well. Just because GM and Chrysler are begging for your tax dollars to pay their ridiculous fees to the UAW scumbags, that doesn't mean you can't trust Ford!
FTR, i currently drive a 99 superduty w/ powerstroke. i love it. 210,000 miles and pulling strong. i expect the New England winters (salt) to kill it long before the engine craps out.
its a little loud at speed, but ..........see my sig. line
and while you are correct that ford is in better shape than the other US auto companies, thats not actually saying a whole lot.
anyway, opinions were asked for, not arguments.
Absolutely zero problems with my '04 F150 after 75000 something miles. I'll drive it until it dies, then buy the small diesel F150 that is in the works.
I love my 2000 Dodge Ram...but I do have a major gripe...
The heater core recently went bad. 6 hours later with the dash on the front seat and the entire heater box removed from the truck, I could finally actually see the heater core. Chrysler lists that particular service at 6.6 hours and $550 to $700 depending on your shop's rate.
Other than that, the truck has been rock solid reliable and with our recent cold, out of the 3 vehicles in the driveway (2004 Silverado and 2007 Pacifica) has been the only one to not need jumped at least once...
My wife drives a 02 Chevy 1500 SWB.
It's truthfully the biggest piece of junk I've ever driven....everything has broken, is broke, or has broken and been replaced in it. I don't know If I'll ever buy another chevy, which is hard for me to say, because I used to have a 95 x-cab 1500 which I loved.
I'm sure they are different now, but her truck has left a bad taste in my mouth for GM
At work, everything we drive is Ford. They're decent, but I'm not real impressed. The F150's have a lot of plastic parts attached to the engine, that you'd expect to be metal. I'm not saying that is for sure a bad thing, but it makes me wonder. Of course none of them have more than 9k on the clock, so I don't know. We have a couple 06 and 07 Ford diesels. Kind of finicky. Been to the shop a few times each. The 2 08s haven't had any problems yet. The 02 ford Diesel runs like crazy....it's a good truck.
Had a '98 F150 up until the rpm sensor crapped out and caused a series of misshifts at 70mph on the freeway thus fragging the transmission; happend after 80k miles.
Went back to a light truck and most importantly a manual transmission; Nissan Frontier 120k miles and still running strong.
(surprised Im the first to mention this...)
You need to get a Tundra.
It needs to be this one-
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3170/3025228052_4a47c551ee.jpg?v=0)
(i've got a Frontier...what do i know 8))
Quote from: Le Pirate on January 15, 2009, 01:53:57 PM
My wife drives a 02 Chevy 1500 SWB.
It's apparently a girls car, too :P
I haven't driven a Titan but my '07 Frontier has like a 40' turning RADIUS. It's stupid and makes it a pregnant dog to get around crowded places. U turns on anything less than 4 lane road are 3 point turns. >:( Even then, if it's a 4 lane road w/o a divider, I still can't make the turn. >:(
Quote from: erkishhorde on January 15, 2009, 04:26:36 PM
I haven't driven a Titan but my '07 Frontier has like a 40' turning RADIUS. It's stupid and makes it a pregnant dog to get around crowded places. U turns on anything less than 4 lane road are 3 point turns. >:( Even then, if it's a 4 lane road w/o a divider, I still can't make the turn. >:(
Didn't you test drive it before buying it ???
mitt
Quote from: erkishhorde on January 15, 2009, 04:26:36 PM
I haven't driven a Titan but my '07 Frontier has like a 40' turning RADIUS. It's stupid and makes it a pregnant dog to get around crowded places. U turns on anything less than 4 lane road are 3 point turns. >:( Even then, if it's a 4 lane road w/o a divider, I still can't make the turn. >:(
the new frontiers are practically a full-size truck compared to the older ones. i love the 99-01 frontiers, they are the perfect size with the extended cab and bed.
Buy the Ford.
A friend owns a Nissan dealership -- he won't sell nor recommend the Titan to friends or family. His personal one has gone through three rear differentials, one transmission and numerous other problems. Biggest thing he tows is a small trailer with two jet skis. I know of others who have had even bigger headaches owning one. Not recommended.
Looked up these options in CR buyes guide 2009:
The Ford 4WD F150 gets an average review in C.R. The only thing it got a very low rating in was "drive system".
The GMC 1500 also has an average review, but gets a few more very low ratings, again in "drive system" and suspension and brakes and body.
The Chevy 1500 gets the same marks as the GMC 1500.
The dodge 1500 is average, but again gets a very low rating in "drive systems".
The tundra gets a "much better than average"
The titan gets a "much worse than average". Low marks on "drive system", brakes, and body.
mitt
It's a shame we can't get European small trucks here in the states..
goddam chicken tax
Quote from: mitt on January 15, 2009, 05:12:35 PM
Didn't you test drive it before buying it ???
mitt
Yeah, but I didn't try to do any tight turns w/ it when I was test driving it. [roll] I took it on a moderately windy road that was a mile or so long and it handled all those turns fine. A full on U turn is notably different than curves in the road.
OK, so I looked at the Dodge. Why is i I can't get the Hemi in black unless I get the top of the line Laramie? WTF?
Quote from: NAKID on January 15, 2009, 07:08:38 PM
OK, so I looked at the Dodge. Why is i I can't get the Hemi in black unless I get the top of the line Laramie? WTF?
What exactly are you looking at? The Sport comes in black with the hemi. It's just below the Laramie (which I don't paticularly care for because of all the chrome bling).
Nope, if you go to build it, I selected Sport, then black, then went to powertrain. The 4.7 is the standard engine. When you click to select the 5.7 Hemi, it says "you need to change an option to select this". The only color Sport model you can get with the 5.7 Hemi is Silver.
Let me clarify I have selected 4x4 and crew cab...
Mebbe call the dealer?
Also, if you're looking for ample power (I'm guessing so, given the hemi thing), have you looked at the supercharged tundras?
Quote from: NAKID on January 15, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
Nope, if you go to build it, I selected Sport, then black, then went to powertrain. The 4.7 is the standard engine. When you click to select the 5.7 Hemi, it says "you need to change an option to select this". The only color Sport model you can get with the 5.7 Hemi is Silver.
Let me clarify I have selected 4x4 and crew cab...
I didn't know 4wd would work under water.
Quote from: just another painter on January 15, 2009, 07:50:51 PM
I didn't know 4wd would work under water.
Well now you know :P
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 15, 2009, 07:44:22 PM
Mebbe call the dealer?
Not to that point yet, I can afford to wait
Also, if you're looking for ample power (I'm guessing so, given the hemi thing), have you looked at the supercharged tundras?
Never saw that as an option...
Quote from: NAKID on January 15, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
Nope, if you go to build it, I selected Sport, then black, then went to powertrain. The 4.7 is the standard engine. When you click to select the 5.7 Hemi, it says "you need to change an option to select this". The only color Sport model you can get with the 5.7 Hemi is Silver.
Let me clarify I have selected 4x4 and crew cab...
Hmm, I bought a Sport in Mineral Gray with a 5.7 Hemi. They had a blue one too.
and when I "Build It",
" Model edit Sub Total: $38,295
2009 Ram 1500 Crew Sport 4x4 $38,295
Colors edit Sub Total: $0
Paint Table : Secondary w/Sport (Crew) Included
Dark Slate Gray Interior Color Included
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl Coat Exterior Paint Included
Powertrain edit Sub Total: $1,310
5.7-Liter V8 HEMI MDS VCT Engine "
and my understanding is all "Sports" have the 5.7.
"Feature Availability
Select model for specs
5.7-liter HEMI® V8 with MDS
Standard on:
Sport
Laramie
Available on:
ST
SLT
TRX"
http://www.dodge.com/en/2009/ram_1500/capability/powertrain/ (http://www.dodge.com/en/2009/ram_1500/capability/powertrain/)
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 15, 2009, 07:44:22 PM
Mebbe call the dealer?
Also, if you're looking for ample power (I'm guessing so, given the hemi thing), have you looked at the supercharged tundras?
Add $5000-$5500 plus install for the TRD supercharger. The Tundra has ample power without it. It's just fugly.
Quote from: NAKID on January 15, 2009, 07:08:38 PM
OK, so I looked at the Dodge. Why is i I can't get the Hemi in black unless I get the top of the line Laramie? WTF?
Let's clarify.
Did you drive the '09 Ram?
What other '08/09 competitive models have you driven?
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on January 15, 2009, 11:06:46 PM
Let's clarify.
Did you drive the '09 Ram?
What other '08/09 competitive models have you driven?
There's a question. Why aren't there any '09 Tundra's?
Quote from: mitt on January 15, 2009, 06:25:17 PM
Looked up these options in CR buyes guide 2009:
The dodge 1500 is average, but again gets a very low rating in "drive systems".
The tundra gets a "much better than average"
mitt
New Dodge Rams (and many of their other vehicles) now include a lifetime (to the original owner) warranty on the powertrain (engine, transmission, drive system).
Tundra has a 5 year/60,000 mile warranty on the drive train.
Not that any of my Toyotas had issues but it's nice to know as long as i own the Dodge they will take care of the drivetrain.
Quote from: hbliam on January 15, 2009, 11:55:28 PM
Not that any of my Toyotas had issues but it's nice to know as long as i own the Dodge is still in business they will take care of the drivetrain.
;D
Quote from: NAKID on January 15, 2009, 07:23:38 PM
Nope, if you go to build it, I selected Sport, then black, then went to powertrain. The 4.7 is the standard engine. When you click to select the 5.7 Hemi, it says "you need to change an option to select this". The only color Sport model you can get with the 5.7 Hemi is Silver.
Let me clarify I have selected 4x4 and crew cab...
Let me add, if you plan on doing serious towing, the 4.7 is not the engine I'd recommend. The 360 (5.7 I think) makes its power in a much more tow-friendly manner. The 4.7 is a fun "play" motor though, likes to rev and great for playing around off-road. You'll get the same, if not better fuel mileage with the 360 ~
JM
Quote from: hbliam on January 15, 2009, 11:45:03 PM
There's a question. Why aren't there any '09 Tundra's?
Production of '09 Tundra is very limited. Plants were shut down from August through November due to economy slowing.
'10 Tundra production begins in April.
so randimus...
when am i going to be able to drool over a diesel tundra?
yer gonna say never, arent you.... :-\
given that the price of diesel is still significantly higher than gasoline in most (if not all) parts of the country....
and the fact that other manufacturers have delayed or cancelled bringing diesel powered passenger cars to the states....
I won't say never, but the outlook is distant.
You wouldn't want a diesel today in Iowa. -30F, lots of trucks broke down with gelled fuel.
mitt
Quote from: mitt on January 16, 2009, 07:00:38 AM
You wouldn't want a diesel today in Iowa. -30F, lots of trucks broke down with gelled fuel.
mitt
reason # 2 on my list of why to never live in iowa
I am surprised at the Nissan. I have owned two Nissan Cars and found them to be highly reliable. How could the truck be such a POS?
Anyway if you don't have to haul anything too heavy, the Dodge SRT 10 is a kick in the pants.
(http://www.autoviaggiando.com/archivio/2006/02/24-dodge-ram-2007/large%20di%20dodge%20ram%20srt10.jpg)
(http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/odds_and_ends/2006/12/3/dodge_srt10_enginel.jpg)
Quote from: herm on January 16, 2009, 07:19:37 AM
reason # 2 on my list of why to never live in iowa
It should be one of the reasons about NH too...
Just sayin'
Quote from: MendoDave on January 16, 2009, 07:21:35 AM
Anyway if you don't have to haul anything too heavy, the Dodge SRT 10 is a kick in the pants.
have you ever looked at the tow rating on one of those? they actually recommend NOT towing.
Yea that may be true...
Have you ever mashed your foot down on the gas pedal in one of those? The CHP recommends not doing that.
Quote from: just another painter on January 16, 2009, 07:25:51 AM
It should be one of the reasons about NH too...
Just sayin'
nah,.....for all my pregnant dogin, its not so bad here.
its no colorado for sure,.......but not bad
Quote from: MendoDave on January 16, 2009, 07:37:42 AM
Yea that may be true...
Have you ever mashed your foot down on the gas pedal in one of those? The CHP recommends not doing that.
one of our socal'ers has one...
Quote from: derby on January 16, 2009, 07:29:09 AM
have you ever looked at the tow rating on one of those? they actually recommend NOT towing.
Not to mention they don't produce them anymore.
Quote from: mitt on January 16, 2009, 07:00:38 AM
You wouldn't want a diesel today in Iowa. -30F, lots of trucks broke down with gelled fuel.
mitt
that is a planning issue.
My 1986 Ford Ranger (with a Mitsubishi 4d55t diesel) has 2 batteries and cold starts are fine as long as I use the block heats and antigel.
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 16, 2009, 02:24:08 PM
that is a planning issue.
My 1986 Ford Ranger has 2 batteries and cold starts are fine as long as I use the block heats and antigel.
Good to know.
mitt
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on January 15, 2009, 11:06:46 PM
Let's clarify.
Did you drive the '09 Ram?
What other '08/09 competitive models have you driven?
I have done ZERO test driving. I am in the very preliminary stages right now. Trying narrow down the options I would like, compare stats, pricing, etc. Now, if I go to drive something and I don't like it, then I can re-evaluate..
I went on Dodges website, looking for a replacement for my '97 2500. I built the same truck I have now, just without the 11 years and 127k miles. $52,000!?!?! $1125/month!?!?!?
That's more than my mortgage!
Quote from: NAKID on January 16, 2009, 02:28:03 PM
I have done ZERO test driving. I am in the very preliminary stages right now. Trying narrow down the options I would like, compare stats, pricing, etc. Now, if I go to drive something and I don't like it, then I can re-evaluate..
Dude...
You've owned a Ford since '02 and every thing I've read tells me you liked it...
I can understand looking at a 'Yota.;.
but a make the beast with two backsing Dodge?
You need to submerge for a while. ;D
Quote from: Bun-bun on January 16, 2009, 03:38:50 PM
I went on Dodges website, looking for a replacement for my '97 2500. I built the same truck I have now, just without the 11 years and 127k miles. $52,000!?!?! $1125/month!?!?!?
That's more than my mortgage!
Try paying around 3-4X that for a mortgage. ;)
No thanks. I try to live within my means(and sometimes that gets pretty mean!), and I bought what I could afford, then fixed it up to be what I wanted(Mostly.).
Quote from: just another painter on January 16, 2009, 05:08:17 PM
Dude...
You've owned a Ford since '02 and every thing I've read tells me you liked it...
I can understand looking at a 'Yota.;.
but a make the beast with two backsing Dodge?
You need to submerge for a while. ;D
I do, really. I'm just keeping my options open. I have wanted a Titan since they came out. Just trying to get the most truck (and frills) for my money.
On a side note, it was freaking -5 this morning when I went out to the truck and started it up. The check engine light came on. WTF?
That was it's way of saying "It's -5 out! Get back in the house, idjit!"
Quote from: Bun-bun on January 16, 2009, 05:56:09 PM
No thanks. I try to live within my means(and sometimes that gets pretty mean!), and I bought what I could afford, then fixed it up to be what I wanted(Mostly.).
We do the same thing here. Live within our means, and buy what we can afford. It just costs that much. [bang]
Quote from: NAKID on January 16, 2009, 06:00:08 PM
I do, really. I'm just keeping my options open. I have wanted a Titan since they came out. Just trying to get the most truck (and frills) for my money.
On a side note, it was freaking -5 this morning when I went out to the truck and started it up. The check engine light came on. WTF?
That was a hint that you need remote start. Warms up the motor, gets the cab to 72 degrees, and defrosts the windows and mirrors...all while you read the paper and have a cup. [coffee]
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 16, 2009, 02:24:08 PM
that is a planning issue.
My 1986 Ford Ranger (with a Mitsubishi 4d55t diesel) has 2 batteries and cold starts are fine as long as I use the block heats and antigel.
+1
the block heater is your friend (and the 2 batteries arent bad either)
Quote from: hbliam on January 16, 2009, 06:20:21 PM
That was a hint that you need remote start. Warms up the motor, gets the cab to 72 degrees, and defrosts the windows and mirrors...all while you read the paper and have a cup. [coffee]
If I was going to keep this truck longer, I would put one on it. The new truck WILL have a remote start.
Quote from: herm on January 16, 2009, 06:27:44 PM
+1
the block heater is your friend (and the 2 batteries arent bad either)
I would love a block heater for mine, but running 150' of extension cord out to my truck is kinda silly...
Quote from: NAKID on January 16, 2009, 06:33:48 PM
I would love a block heater for mine, but running 150' of extension cord out to my truck is kinda silly...
I left my Dodge out on the street on Thursday, when it was in the 40's. Now I have to use it tomorrow (it's like 15F now.). Hope the batteries last long enough to get it started. Block heaters are a blessing, as long as you park close enough to the outlet. [bang]
I have left my truck out in the cold on the weekend with several days of low 20's with overnight lows in the teens and it started no problem...
i started mine the other day after almost 3 weeks of not running it.
been very cold for that whole time.
shoulda used the block heater first....but it started anyway... eventually
Hate to barge in here with something on topic but this seemed like a good write up.
Jalopnik's/PickupTruck.com's Truck comparison hootnanny royale (http://jalopnik.com/5087122/jalopniks-2009-pickup-truck-comparison-head+to+head-jubilee-event-challenge-spectacular)
No FHE with any of your candidates, but with roughly 220K virtually trouble free miles on my Ford, I won't have a problem looking at them for my future trucking needs.
Quote from: il d00d on January 16, 2009, 09:28:58 PM
Hate to barge in here with something on topic but this seemed like a good write up.
Jalopnik's/PickupTruck.com's Truck comparison hootnanny royale (http://jalopnik.com/5087122/jalopniks-2009-pickup-truck-comparison-head+to+head-jubilee-event-challenge-spectacular)
No FHE with any of your candidates, but with roughly 220K virtually trouble free miles on my Ford, I won't have a problem looking at them for my future trucking needs.
Sort of an odd writeup. They start off mentioning they have six trucks.
For the remainder of the article, they only mention 5. It's like the other one never existed.
Quote from: NAKID on January 16, 2009, 07:14:33 PM
I have left my truck out in the cold on the weekend with several days of low 20's with overnight lows in the teens and it started no problem...
Is yours a diesel, too?
Mine has the air heater in the intake instead of the glowplugs, and while I think it is a better system, since there are no glowplugs to break down, it does pull a lot of juice from the batteries, especially in below freezing weather.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 17, 2009, 06:45:48 AM
Sort of an odd writeup. They start off mentioning they have six trucks.
For the remainder of the article, they only mention 5. It's like the other one never existed.
2009 Chevy Silverado 1500, the 2009 Dodge Ram 1500, the 2009 Ford F-150, GMC Sierra 1500, 2009 Nissan Titan, and the 2008 Toyota Tundrathe sierra and the silverado are the same truck.
Quote from: derby on January 17, 2009, 07:27:01 AM
2009 Chevy Silverado 1500, the 2009 Dodge Ram 1500, the 2009 Ford F-150, GMC Sierra 1500, 2009 Nissan Titan, and the 2008 Toyota Tundra
the sierra and the silverado are the same truck.
I as referring to the Toyota. Unless I'm mistaken, it's only mentioned in the intro.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 17, 2009, 07:34:30 AM
I as referring to the Toyota. Unless I'm mistaken, it's only mentioned in the intro.
click on the links to the Towing, Braking, Slalom comparisons, etc.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on January 17, 2009, 07:37:41 AM
click on the links to the Towing, Braking, Slalom comparisons, etc.
I know it was mentioned in the links, but it's poor writing to introduce a subject then not do follow up.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 17, 2009, 07:39:00 AM
I know it was mentioned in the links, but it's poor writing to introduce a subject then not do follow up.
It is Jalopnik, not Truck Trend, after all!
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on January 17, 2009, 08:12:26 AM
It is Jalopnik, not Truck Trend, after all!
Pffft, if you're going to write for a living, try to learn how to write first.
Criminy-they even make the useless math people like me learn it. It's so we don't sound retarded.
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 17, 2009, 08:15:30 AM
Pffft, if you're going to write for a living, try to learn how to write first.
Criminy-they even make the useless math people like me learn it. It's so we don't sound retarded.
What alternate universe do you live in where all of sudden people have to be good at what they do to make a living doing it?
Quote from: Bun-bun on January 17, 2009, 07:26:02 AM
Is yours a diesel, too?
Mine has the air heater in the intake instead of the glowplugs, and while I think it is a better system, since there are no glowplugs to break down, it does pull a lot of juice from the batteries, especially in below freezing weather.
No, it's gasoline, so I don't have to worry about fuel gelling or trying to start the high compression engine like a diesel. However, cold just sucks the life outa batteries...
Quote from: NAKID on January 17, 2009, 02:41:33 PM
No, it's gasoline, so I don't have to worry about fuel gelling or trying to start the high compression engine like a diesel. However, cold just sucks the life outa batteries...
...and heat like in AZ kills them too.
Is it the original?
My car started yesterday in -20 weather.
Mine? Yeah, original battery.
No problem starting this morning. I still need to disconnect it to reset the ECU...
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 17, 2009, 07:39:00 AM
I know it was mentioned in the links, but it's poor writing to introduce a subject then not do follow up.
write a complaint letter signed Lazlo Toth
Quote from: Bun-bun on January 17, 2009, 07:26:02 AM
Is yours a diesel, too?
Mine has the air heater in the intake instead of the glowplugs, and while I think it is a better system, since there are no glowplugs to break down, it does pull a lot of juice from the batteries, especially in below freezing weather.
that's an interesting idea but i can't imagine how many watts that must pull when the air is flowing fast.
glow plugs heat the head and pistons so it stays around longer. i havent had any problem with mine.
My little S-10 started no problem this morning when it was negative something out after not having started it in two weeks.
Can't complain about my little Chevy.
So how about I play Devils Advocate in my own thread...
http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/985085983.html (http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/985085983.html)
Quote from: NAKID on January 18, 2009, 03:23:49 PM
So how about I play Devils Advocate in my own thread...
http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/985085983.html (http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/985085983.html)
I guess I should have gone into the navy....
Quote from: ducpainter on January 18, 2009, 03:25:42 PM
I guess I should have gone into the navy....
Why's that?
Quote from: NAKID on January 18, 2009, 04:06:14 PM
Why's that?
'cause you've got a good theme song, you know, that one by those Village People.
Nate LOOOOOVES the Village People...
Quote from: NAKID on January 18, 2009, 03:23:49 PM
So how about I play Devils Advocate in my own thread...
http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/985085983.html (http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/985085983.html)
That is right across from the front gate. I remember that sitting out there a year and a half ago.
That's weird. It just reappeared a few weeks ago...
Are you still at NLON?
Quote from: NAKID on January 18, 2009, 03:23:49 PM
So how about I play Devils Advocate in my own thread...
http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/985085983.html (http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/985085983.html)
waste of fuel unless you are getting shot at (and even then.... :-\)
Quote from: NAKID on January 18, 2009, 04:06:14 PM
Why's that?
Because it's obvious a sub doc gets paid better than a painter
Quote from: NAKID on January 18, 2009, 04:11:03 PM
Nate LOOOOOVES the Village People...
Do they make as much as you?
Quote from: ducpainter on January 18, 2009, 05:31:18 PM
Because it's obvious a sub doc gets paid better than a painter
Do they make as much as you?
Dude, it's only $45k.
Besides, I just settled the lawsuit
Quote from: NAKID on January 18, 2009, 06:14:24 PM
Dude, it's only $45k.Besides, I just settled the lawsuit
A mere pittance.
If I consider it, we'll be negotiating down. With that mileage, similar H1's are going for less than 40..
Quote from: NAKID on January 18, 2009, 06:14:24 PM
Dude, it's only $45k.Besides, I just settled the lawsuit
Well that explains a make the beast with two backsing bunch. [laugh]
Put it in a mattress. ;)
Quote from: NAKID on January 18, 2009, 06:22:50 PM
If I consider it, we'll be negotiating down. With that mileage, similar H1's are going for less than 40..
But dood.. It's got 4 TVs... [laugh]
Although the heated seats are nice. Hey, at least he didn't swap out the wheels with some "22s" Chrome.. Spinners... It could be worse.
And, how can there be "may extras - too much to list"? he's got 4 lines of "extras." Craigslist doesn't charge by the letter (or he wouldn't have used 5 exclamation points). [bang]
cant believe you are even considering one of those... :P
(http://nyenoona.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/hummer_dumber.jpg)
Quote from: NAKID on January 18, 2009, 04:38:56 PM
That's weird. It just reappeared a few weeks ago...
Are you still at NLON?
I was until July 2007, I'm in Norfolk now. I remember that Hummer out there at Karns because I drove by it every day. I'm not sure if it was for sale at that point but it was definitely out there every morning.
Quote from: herm on January 18, 2009, 06:47:08 PM
cant believe you are even considering one of those... :P
(http://nyenoona.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/hummer_dumber.jpg)
Uhhhh, NOT the same vehicle. That H2 is a piece of crap. The H1 is the real deal, capable of real off road...
Quote from: NAKID on January 18, 2009, 09:27:46 PM
Uhhhh, NOT the same vehicle. That H2 is a piece of crap. The H1 is the real deal, capable of real off road...
I'm sure the four video monitors enhance the off-road capability immensely.
Gotta entertain the kids somehow...
i know they are different...it was just the first pic i found.
i just dont think hummers (except the physical kind) have any practical use
My dad got about 240k out of his 2000 Chevy 1500 but it was limping by the end. And that was mostly highway miles. So I'd say it was decent.
I have 174k on a 98 Tacoma 4x that I beat to hell on a regular basis and have only had to do a starter and a clutch on it. (other than the bent axle housing due to a jump and rough landing). No Tundra experience but that's all I would probably buy if I moved up to a full size. I'm willing to pay more up front to never have to take it into the shop. the idea of a long warranty that I constantly have to use is not appealing.
Anyone (besides silentbob) own or used to own an H1?
Quote from: NAKID on January 16, 2009, 06:00:08 PM
I do, really. I'm just keeping my options open. I have wanted a Titan since they came out. Just trying to get the most truck (and frills) for my money.
On a side note, it was freaking -5 this morning when I went out to the truck and started it up. The check engine light came on. WTF?
-5 in Scottsdale ? Dolph ;D
Quote from: IZ on January 14, 2009, 06:33:46 PM
they can certainly take a hit by any 16 y/o in daddy's Land Rover!!
just don't try to drive off, IZ will make you cry...
Quote from: NAKID on January 19, 2009, 07:48:14 PM
Anyone (besides silentbob) own or used to own an H1?
Want to buy mine?
My cousin has a Tundra. I carried two bikes in the bed and one on a moto tote for a track day. It did ok but it was all over the road with that much weight in the back.
I like the 2003-2005 Dodge with the Cummins and 6spd manual.
Or you can buy cheap stuff from the government like me.
Here are the last two.
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/silentbob_pics/11093050.jpg)
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/silentbob_pics/11093052.jpg)
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/silentbob_pics/P8148250.jpg)
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc19/silentbob_pics/P8148257.jpg)
Quote from: silentbob on January 20, 2009, 01:17:54 PM
Want to buy mine?
My cousin has a Tundra. I carried two bikes in the bed and one on a moto tote for a track day. It did ok but it was all over the road with that much weight in the back.
I like the 2003-2005 Dodge with the Cummins and 6spd manual.
Or you can buy cheap stuff from the government like me.
Here are the last two.
Hadn't seen the 6x6 yet - that thing is crazy - what do you do with it?
mitt
Quote from: mitt on January 20, 2009, 01:48:12 PM
Hadn't seen the 6x6 yet - that thing is crazy - what do you do with it?
mitt
Whatever he wants?
Drive over Smart Cars? [evil]
Quote from: NAKID on January 20, 2009, 06:16:20 PM
You gonna deliver it Rob?
Hell yeah. I'll even strap a bike to the back if you want. I am the official DMF transporter. You just need to buy the beer.
Quote from: silentbob on January 20, 2009, 07:08:29 PM
Hell yeah. I'll even strap a bike to the back if you want. I am the official DMF transporter. You just need to buy the beer.
What kind you like btw?
Quote from: mitt on January 20, 2009, 01:48:12 PM
Hadn't seen the 6x6 yet - that thing is crazy - what do you do with it?
mitt
Commuting to work, running errands, conquering small countries. Actually, I wasn't using it for much so I sold it. It was fun for taking dirt bikes and quads out to the desert and to go shooting. But, the new truck is more practical. I can carry six bikes, six riders, and all their track gear. It has heat, a/c, p/s, air brakes, stereo, and a 4000lb lift gate on the back. It also accepts the same cargo top as the 6x6 so it becomes a giant portable tent once you get to the track.
Quote from: JBubble on January 20, 2009, 07:13:53 PM
What kind you like btw?
I like Guinness along with a couple of hundred other brands.
Quote from: silentbob on January 20, 2009, 07:16:44 PM
I like Guinness along with a couple of hundred other brands.
Got it. Thanks! [thumbsup]
Quote from: silentbob on January 20, 2009, 07:08:29 PM
Hell yeah. I'll even strap a bike to the back if you want. I am the official DMF transporter. You just need to buy the beer.
You realize I live in CT now right?
Quote from: NAKID on January 20, 2009, 07:18:11 PM
You realize I live in CT now right?
I thought you lived under CT.
Not yet! Still in school...
Update on the H1. Apparently it's being sold at the same place again because the owner of the shop is the owner of the H1. I guess he keeps changing his mind about whether to sell it or not. Back and forth, back and forth...
So, more update on the H1. Went and talked to the owner today. Didn't drive it cause the weather sux. Owner is a really cool guy, seems to know his shit, found out it's on ebay too, but hasn't hit the reserve ($38,500). It's not the same one that was for sale a couple years ago, he has had 2, sold one, and also sold another for a friend, all from the same location. Tons of upgrades and just looks put together well. Here's the ebay ad, check it out.
2000 H1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___2000-H1-LEATHER-NAV-WHEELS-TIRES-EXHAUST-SHOCKS-TVS_W0QQitemZ160312185229QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item160312185229&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308)
You might think twice about the Dodge after seeing this video. You'll need to scroll down a bit on the page for it.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/26/video-mike-rowe-takes-on-dirty-job-of-comparing-full-size-picku/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/26/video-mike-rowe-takes-on-dirty-job-of-comparing-full-size-picku/)
And notice that the Titan wasn't even included?
i kind of have a liking for these rigs....
(http://www.wildlandfire.com/pics/hand15/willow.jpg)
but that doesnt make them practical for everyday life...
Thoughts on trucks:
behind them: [bang] [bang] [bang] >:( >:( >:( [bang] [bang] [bang] hate you hate you hate you!
But now I kind of want to get one. Track toy hauler/camping situation mobile.
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2009, 01:00:01 PM
So, more update on the H1. Went and talked to the owner today. Didn't drive it cause the weather sux. Owner is a really cool guy, seems to know his shit, found out it's on ebay too, but hasn't hit the reserve ($38,500). It's not the same one that was for sale a couple years ago, he has had 2, sold one, and also sold another for a friend, all from the same location. Tons of upgrades and just looks put together well. Here's the ebay ad, check it out.
2000 H1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___2000-H1-LEATHER-NAV-WHEELS-TIRES-EXHAUST-SHOCKS-TVS_W0QQitemZ160312185229QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item160312185229&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1308)
Jasper sells remaned engines. No telling if it has the late model block that is not prone to #8 cylinder cracking. You'd be better off buying mine. Besides you can't even lock the soft top, it unzips from the outside..
Quote from: herm on January 28, 2009, 05:07:02 PM
i kind of have a liking for these rigs....
(http://www.wildlandfire.com/pics/hand15/willow.jpg)
but that doesnt make them practical for everyday life...
That's cool. I was thinking of bolting a toybox to the bed of my International S1600.
Quote from: silentbob on January 28, 2009, 05:25:36 PM
That's cool. I was thinking of bolting a toybox to the bed of my International S1600.
if you are enough of a truck/gear head, PM me and i will send you a PDF with specs.
these are special made for the IHC community (although others now use them too) and they kick ass.
I know, I know Rob. But, he's local and it's an open bed (plus he has a bed extender that hooks into the receiver hitch)
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2009, 05:31:20 PM
I know, I know Rob. But, he's local and it's an open bed (plus he has a bed extender that hooks into the receiver hitch)
I'll throw in a Moto Tote for the back and a KelTec SU-16CA with high cap mags.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on January 28, 2009, 03:27:33 PM
You might think twice about the Dodge after seeing this video. You'll need to scroll down a bit on the page for it.
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/26/video-mike-rowe-takes-on-dirty-job-of-comparing-full-size-picku/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/26/video-mike-rowe-takes-on-dirty-job-of-comparing-full-size-picku/)
And notice that the Titan wasn't even included?
You do realize that video is Ford advertisement right?
You honestly think Ford would put out a video their truck didn't win?
Not to mention that Mike Rowe has done commercials for Ford...
Quote from: COWBOY on January 28, 2009, 07:21:13 PM
You do realize that video is Ford advertisement right?
You honestly think Ford would put out a video their truck didn't win?
Of course, I realize that.
I was trying to point out two things. 1) The Dodge Ram with it's fancy new coil spring rear end and HEMI power didn't do so well. 2) The Nissan Titan wasn't even considered.
Every manufacturer will find the smallest weakness of their competitors and exploit it.
In my experience, companies don't put things in their commercials for comparisson if they can't beat them in every way...
I can say from personal experience, my Dakota does WAY better in most of those tests. I actually use my truck to haul understeer-inducing loads in the bed on a regular basis. I've NEVER had the kind of body roll they were showing. Nor have I had any problem with trailer sway getting out of hand. It looked exaggerated/induced with the Chevy. Go find a REAL test.
JM
How about an M35?
I know a place selling them for $5000 and up. They have about 10 of them.
(http://www.tnjmurray.com/vehicle_sales_photos/M35a2%20cargo%20with%20winch.JPG)
No one wants me to buy a vehicle from them. I got home from school and looked to see some of the nearby dealerships, Ford, Toyota, Nissan, etc. Some of them are only open til 5 on Friday's, a couple as late as 6. When do people tend to do more vehicle shopping?? I would think it's on the weekends, hell, some are only open til 4-430 on Sat and not at all on Sunday!!!
Quote from: NAKID on January 30, 2009, 02:46:22 PM
No one wants me to buy a vehicle from them. I got home from school and looked to see some of the nearby dealerships, Ford, Toyota, Nissan, etc. Some of them are only open til 5 on Friday's, a couple as late as 6. When do people tend to do more vehicle shopping?? I would think it's on the weekends, hell, some are only open til 4-430 on Sat and not at all on Sunday!!!
That's weird, they are open until about 9 around here during the week and weekends same on Sat and opening later on Sunday.
That's what I thought. Hell, in AZ and Cali, they're open til 9 or 10 every day except sometimes Sunday. Glad I called to verify before I left....
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 29, 2009, 06:28:50 AM
How about an M35?
I know a place selling them for $5000 and up. They have about 10 of them.
(http://www.tnjmurray.com/vehicle_sales_photos/M35a2%20cargo%20with%20winch.JPG)
That thing looks very clean! Might need to rethink my work truck options....
Quote from: rgramjet on January 30, 2009, 03:18:20 PM
That thing looks very clean! Might need to rethink my work truck options....
yah, great hauling capacity 8-wheel drive (2 sets of duallys) but 8-10 mpg diesel...
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 30, 2009, 03:32:18 PM
yah, great hauling capacity 8-wheel drive (2 sets of duallys) but 8-10 mpg diesel...
Better than a school bus FWIW ~
JM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 30, 2009, 03:32:18 PM
yah, great hauling capacity 8-wheel drive (2 sets of duallys) but 8-10 mpg diesel...
8-10mpg in that behemoth is awesome mileage...
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 30, 2009, 03:32:18 PM
yah, great hauling capacity 8-wheel drive (2 sets of duallys) but 8-10 mpg diesel...
10 wheel drive. The front axle is live too.
Replace the diff oil with synthetic, install lock out hubs, remove one rear prop shaft, install 395/85 R20 tires, tweak the injection pump and 16-17 mpg is obtainable. Even in stock form, 11 mpg on the highway is fairly easy if you keep your foot out of it.
I think the diesel Hummer h1 only gets 10 mpg stock. I thought about one until I saw that.
Well, looks like the H1 is out. Wife and I were talking about it and a couple things came up. 1, she doesn't like driving big vehicles, she reluctantly drives my F150 as it is. 2 is warranty. For what I would be paying for that H1 I can have a fully loaded Titan, F150, etc with a full warranty. 3 parking is kinda limited here. I'm not sure it will even fit in the provided parking spaces...
Quote from: NAKID on January 30, 2009, 02:46:22 PM
No one wants me to buy a vehicle from them. I got home from school and looked to see some of the nearby dealerships, Ford, Toyota, Nissan, etc. Some of them are only open til 5 on Friday's, a couple as late as 6. When do people tend to do more vehicle shopping?? I would think it's on the weekends, hell, some are only open til 4-430 on Sat and not at all on Sunday!!!
ah,ha,ha...welcome to connecticut.
my grandmother lives down in fairfield county. she is always amazed that anyone thinks a store
would be open after 5pm, or at any time on the weekend
Quote from: NAKID on January 30, 2009, 06:09:58 PM
Well, looks like the H1 is out. Wife and I were talking about it and a couple things came up. 1, she doesn't like driving big vehicles, she reluctantly drives my F150 as it is. 2 is warranty. For what I would be paying for that H1 I can have a fully loaded Titan, F150, etc with a full warranty. 3 parking is kinda limited here. I'm not sure it will even fit in the provided parking spaces...
She should try driving one. I actually find it easier than driving an F150.
4) Only being able to seat 4 people in that large a vehicle, sucks...plus 2 kids if you get the jump seats...
Quote from: herm on January 30, 2009, 07:34:50 PM
ah,ha,ha...welcome to connecticut.
my grandmother lives down in fairfield county. she is always amazed that anyone thinks a store would be open after 5pm, or at any time on the weekend
heavens to betsey!
Well, went and drove the F150. It's a good amount bigger than my current F150. It drives well, good power, seamless transition from 2 to 4wd. I didn't drive the FX4 cause they didn't have one, but I did drive a 4wd Crew Cab to get an idea. I like it. Still wanna drive some others before I commit, but they aren't making it easy with the limited hours. Hell, most of them aren't open on Sundays at all and the ones that are, only a few hours...
Iowa car and motorcycle dealers are closed on Sundays by law. The idea is that buyers can window shop without pressure from sales people.
mitt
Well, I think I have decided on the F150. Pricewise, it seems to be the best deal. The back doors open wider, the back seat is flat out bigger, 6sp auto in a truck will give it decent highway mileage. The Titan comes in a 5'7" bed or a 7'3" bed. One is too small, the other too big. The F150 has a 6'5" which is what my truck has now and I think it's the perfect size.
The Titan was up a bit in power (317 vs 310) and tq (385 vs 365) but it's not that noticeable.
They both sound good stock, but they won't stay that way.
Price is similar for both, although I think I can get a better deal at the Ford dealership trading in my Ford.
Quote from: NAKID on February 01, 2009, 12:16:41 PM
Well, I think I have decided on the F150. Pricewise, it seems to be the best deal. The back doors open wider, the back seat is flat out bigger, 6sp auto in a truck will give it decent highway mileage. The Titan comes in a 5'7" bed or a 7'3" bed. One is too small, the other too big. The F150 has a 6'5" which is what my truck has now and I think it's the perfect size.
The Titan was up a bit in power (317 vs 310) and tq (385 vs 365) but it's not that noticeable.
They both sound good stock, but they won't stay that way.
Price is similar for both, although I think I can get a better deal at the Ford dealership trading in my Ford.
The new F150 looks like a nice truck. The old F150 used to be the same chassis and body as the 250 and 350 series. Then they turned the 150 into an over sized car. I never liked that generation. The suspension was mushy, the ergos were bad, engine access was horrible considering the size of the hood, and it was much harder to navigate with that car like round nose. The new F150 seems like a truck again.
Go to Edmunds online and print out the dealer invoice and option prices before you go into the dealer. They are really hurting for business right now and you should be able to name your own price. Be prepared to start walking toward the door at the slightest bit of bullshit and they will immediately cave in.
Quote from: NAKID on February 01, 2009, 12:16:41 PM
although I think I can get a better deal at the Ford dealership trading in my Ford.
I'd sell private.
Dealers aren't paying too much on trades, at least that is the trend around here.
I'm in a unique situation where it is much easier for me to trade it in. Plus, I don't want to deal with the hassle and potential time it could take to sell my truck...