Ducati Monster Forum

It's been drivin' me nuts waiting on my engine and front end to be completed...the hangups have been with the powder coater and Matris sending the wrong parts from Italy. So I figured I'd haul my old bike to the remote garage. The plan was to have it mostly intact and use it as a model of sorts to put my "M944(NOS)SS.

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I really just wanted to remove the stuff I still prized like the Rizoma rearsets, but once the wrench started turning it got addictive...

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Ooops...at least I technically started my build by putting SOMETHING on... ;D

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I actually feel extremely confident now about putting her together. Our bikes are pretty damn simple actually!

YES! Finally!

Hopefully the "What Did Buck Naked Just Buy?" thread will now calm down as it has been replaced by this one... "What Did Buck Naked Just Build?"

I haven't built anything yet...lol.

Spent all day wire brushing some misc hardware I don't wanna re buy such as the oil cooler fittings. ALL the nasty gold zinc plated crap Ducati had the nerve to put on our machines has been tossed or binned cuz I now have a huge assortment of stainless hardware I've been accumulating over the months.

As I was scrubbing the oil cooler fittings, seat lock plate,  kickstand mount and various spacers and odd bits that weren't replaced with new versions  it dawned on me that nobody you could ever hire, no matter how conscientious, could possibly put the kind of love into a motorcycle that you can. There's going to be love in every single nut and bolt of this bike.  :'( :P ;D

Ha! Someone else as anal as me. I can't ever bring myself to reassemble a bike without cleaning every last nut, bolt, and screw. That is, the ones which were not replaced with SS/Ti.  :)   [thumbsup]

Pretty sure I can name all the hardware that's not new...AN fittings (although I suspect the Fren Tubo Hypermotard lines I'm ordering come with new ones...so scratch that) kickstand pivot, swingarm pivot, shock pivot...and axles. The only Ti I splurged on was for the front and rear axle bolts. I may use Ti for the chain adjusters as well. If it's an M6, M8, or M10 cap screw it's stainless. I had to buy a 15 bin organizer for my SS collection I'm pretty stoked 'bout that. :D

Did you piece it all together or buy the SS screw/bolt kit? (Still time for the Ti bolt kit  ;))

i'm happy to be as anal at $1.75 per minute as your wallet allows. [laugh]

hence i tend to not be so anal, lest customers feel like they're been stuck in a similar way.

You might polish everything for $1.75 a minute, but you still wouldn't do it with LOVE. :P


Hell no dawg, for the price of those kits you can fill several tackle boxes with enough to do 3-4 bikes and still have bins full to fondle. I like scooping it up and letting it run through my fingers like Scrooge McDuck. Sweatshop stainless from eBay seller "Cool_Cheap_World". And anyone that wants to scoff at that is welcome to pay a middle man 10-20X more for the exact same thing from the exact same place. ;)

I'm trying to avoid the titanium addiction...I think I'll be able to put the pipe down after the axle bolts...pretty sure.

Looks like a blast!  Can't wait to see updates of the progress   [thumbsup]

 [popcorn]

Mine did, but they are of the plated-crap variety; if you were hoping for stainless or aluminum, guess again.

Zinc plated? That's poop. After all the time I've spent removing that rubbish that came from the factory I sure as F don't need to put more on. I'll make my own.

MMMMMmmmmmmm  Ti axle nuts [drool]

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 [drool]
Light is right.
It's a joy watching you get carried away. [laugh]

Thanks for the support T. :)

My lowly mechanical skills and experience have struck again...the underslung rear caliper is a mod I wanted on this bike but the eBay bracket needed work. Hard to believe but the second pic is the result of over 2 hours of labor. :(

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I thought Mothers would be enough since it's worked magic on other alloy parts, but this bracket laughed at it. So I hit it with a sanding disc on a Dremel which made it look awful, so I've been alternating between wet sanding with a sanding sponge, dry, polish with Mothers, buff, repeat. At this pace it'll look awesome in about 20 hours :P

I believe there's a hard coat clear anodize on it, I may try an oven cleaner bath then continue with the sanding and buffing. Afraid I'll just make a bigger mess tho.  :-\

Before powdercoating some parts recently I would bead blast the part to get rid of the coating, then spend an hour or two per part cleaning up casting marks and smoothing the part out. Unlike you however, I get impatient after hour two.  [laugh]

Oven cleaner, or better yet, lye drain cleaner will strip anodized Al to bare metal. Just have plenty of rinse water handy and do not leave the part in it too long. Better to do several short immersion times than one too long time.

On a surface that large, a Dremel disc diameter is too small to avoid damage. On surfaces that large I use a mill with a 3/4" end cutter. If the set up for the part is going to be a PIA, I just use a sanding block, lots of water, and about three different grits. I find the coarsest I will need by testing with the finest and going coarser until I reach the minimum coarse that does the job. Then it is a matter of working with that grade and continuing with finer grades until I reach the surface finish I want. My preference is a brushed satin look and I get that by using maroon ScotchBrite pads. The bare Al will eventually corrode depending on the grade. The cure for that is a couple coats of clear.

I'm really enjoying your posts and camera work. Thanks for taking the time to do them.  [clap]

BTW, excuse me if I am stating the obvious, but remove that guide before stripping the anodizing.

Damn you for showing me this place!

So...what sizes/sets did you end up ordering? :D

"Eddiestore2008" is even better actually but he runs out fast.

M6x16 is by far the most common size on our bikes. That does the engine cases, master cyl clamps, etc etc. I have a bunch of those along with M6x12, 14, 25, and 70 for the dry clutch cover. Sprocket cover takes M6x14. I also picked up M8x25, 30, and 40 & M10x40 for the caliper mounts and calipers themselves, handlebar risers, triple clamp pinch bolts, rotors... I have maybe $70 invested and that's overkill...could probably do 5-6 Monsters fender to fender plus and have enough M6 hardware left over for another ten, lol.

Thanks OND! I wish I'd followed your Dremel advice sooner...basically I was just scoring the aluminum, then needing a coarser pad to correct, then doing it again...so the Dremel didn't work. I'm going to give it another oven cleaner bath then continue sanding. I was trying to achieve a brushed look, that's what you see on the left hand side here:

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But I couldn't get a nice crosshatch, it just looked like a scribbly mess. The right side is after lots and lots of wet sanding.

Rather than clearcoat, I may attempt a home anodize with the vinegar or lemon juice plus battery method floating around the webz.

Or just clear them...all damn day messing with aluminum. My formerly black Oberon turn signals were something I wanted to salvage but they were scuffed to hell. I'm kinda diggin the raw alloy theme.

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I've developed an extremely unhealthy obsession with this bracket. Been messing with it since 9am.

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The bolt hole looks dirty.  [roll]

It's polish residue, stuff turns a nasty gray. I gotta go get a set of nylon brush attachments for me (knock off) Dremel

Looks good though. Use gloves and try to clean as much as humanly possible beforehand if doing any clear over it. It's probably not as bad as clear over steel, but powder is a pregnant dog to remove.

Looking good [thumbsup] 

Two Words 

Nevr-Dull

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I hate that stuff!! >:(

Wear gloves and keep away from open flame Polished all the aluminium on my first bike a 305 Superhawk back in '70
 [thumbsup]

No experience with it. You like it better than Mothers, Dbran?


OND, why do ya hate it?


Thanks Howie!

I like it because of the chemistry does not require as much effort as mothers

Because first permanent duty job assignment in The A.F. was to polish a T-33 with gobs of that stuff. Tired, dirty, but proud at end of day looking at the gleam. Then, on the next day, after the plane sat out all night, I was shown the same plane in a decidedly tarnished condition and was asked why I hadn't waxed it after the polishing. Wasn't any point in mentioning to the Sgt. that I had not been told that the AlClad skin started oxidizing immediately after polishing and that a protective coating of wax was necessary. Spent the 2nd day polishing it again and then waxing it. One good bit of knowledge after that lesson was that Glass Wax would protect the polished skin. Glass Wax, the pink stuff that is hard to find now.

True, the chemistry of it (solvent) dissolves some of the oxidization and therefore requires less elbow grease. But it is messy, dries out easily if not stored correctly, and supplies of it in the stores may not have much shelf life remaining. I am an amateur machinist and if I need to polish an Al part I usually use Mothers/Meguiars/Simichrome, usually in that order. I also use the same stuff, but with a powered buffer and foam wheel for stainless. Others may have their preferred products. I have slso found other products I liked better/as well but they were not consistently available. The three I mentioned are easy to find.

Finally got some engine parts back from powder coating; mirror black cases and "bengal silver" side covers.

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Mmm. Fresh!

Who did you use?

"Bonehead Performance". A lot of guys didn't wanna touch the heads and barrels but this guy was very confidence inspiring.  Good price too. Turnaround was forrreeevver but that's better than dudes who aren't busy which raises suspicion imo.

Finally got my S&P hoop from Italy:

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Spent an hour polishing it. :)

And originally my Carrozzeria wheels were silver. ..which I later regretted...

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So I had em hard anodized by Anodizing Specialists in Cleveland OH:

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Much better. I really hated the silver and don't know what I was thinking.

Lol, love this seat-of-your-pants build, please take that as a compliment. Do what you want, how you want.

Ha, of course. :) I just can't wait to build it...

Build it!?!
Heck, I just enjoy looking at the exotic parts you are collecting.  [thumbsup]

Those parts are gorgeous.
That wheel looks great in black. I prefer black or gold wheels generally. That hoop is exquisite. Not thinking of anodizing it too? I guess you want to show off it's form.

haha...maybe I should hang it all up in shadow boxes around the house with accent spot lights. Italian bike parts really are like museum pieces in a way. ;)

That was a another tough choice, I had the option of black for this from the beginning. I felt like, what was once one of the uglier parts of the gen1 Monsters is now one of the best, and the silver would pop out a bit more.

So far the color layout is: silver frame, anodized black forks, black tank, black wheels, silver hoop, and I have 2 swingarms; one black powdercoated  and one silver. With the colors mentioned I think the black swingarm in back with blacked forks up front would be best, but the silver one is another NOS score from Ebay so that's a tough one.

You're right, the silver hoop goes with the frame.
It's a tough choice on the swing arm. Have you done a mock up?

Yes. The black is better, but I WANT to like the silver more. It's tough to bin a NOS part that had been patiently sitting in a box since 1998.

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It's likely gonna be the black. If the SA is silver, the hoop should've been black.

Only one solution then, get the NOS swingarm freshly painted black.

hahaha...

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Interesting ^^^.

Kind of a role-reversal of colors from the original M900's. 

Yeah, I see a lot of silver case-black covers-black jugs-silver heads....this one is the exact opposite; black cases-silver covers-silver jugs-black heads.

Most people do the covers in black, and I rarely ever see black cases. This way is a little more unique, and there's perfect contrast and separation everywhere. The cases will stand out better from out of the silver frame which will have cohesion with the silver covers, with the big black heads poppin out 'atcha along with the tank, and the black forks and black swingarm driving the point across.  [evil] I do realize I'm not being daring at all...there are very few colors that are guaranteed to look sweet on a bike like black and silver.

Now I need to decide between the silver Tall Boys or black Cycle Cat clip ons.

I'm considering using my dremel to polish the fins on the heads...anyone have any experience with this? I really don't wanna screw up my fresh PC.

De-anodized one of the bits that made it over from the old bike...my Oberon turn signals...

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The effect will be striking.
Love this build.

I've not done it. I would just be concerned not to cause chipping around the edges since it's PC. I would think it's easier to do that with paint, being a little more "plastique". The Painter and others might chip in. You could ask in the paint tips section.

If you're crafty, you can take the brake bracket and cut off the arm and make it a free-floating type.  You need to get a couple of rose joints and a rod and attach it to the motor to steady it.

Parts are looking cool Buck  [thumbsup]

There was a rare "S" version of the M900 that had this setup, along with the alloy suspension linkage the 851/888's had. And an alloy swingarm of course. I regret not getting an alloy swingarm.  :( I actually toyed with the idea of doing all of that.

Thanks for the encouragement y'all. My engine tech just told me "several more weeks" for him to finish the motor. :( guess I'll be buying more stuff in the meantime,  hehe.

It's looking super sharp... following...

Didn't your M900 come w/ an alum swingarm?   My '98 did, and w/ adj forks.

What years were the early M900 S models? Mine appears to have come w/ S specs except no CF or Ohlins. I've seen a 2000 M900S w/ Ohlins.

Really enjoying reading about Buck's plans and doings.

I am jealous to see how well some people can coordinate and integrate design, colors, and textures. I can make and assemble things but am lost when it comes to making the entire package come out as a coordinated and harmonious design. No doubt in my mind, Buck's bike will be a winner.....and lighten his wallet along the way.  ;)  But, if you spend it, you never have to wonder where it went.  [thumbsup]

Ah, cmon man it's silver and black..it's the design equivalent of odd and even numbers. But thanks. :)

Silas I never had an M900. My last bike started out life as an M750 and ended up with a transplanted 900ss engine. This bike has a NOS 2000 M600 frame and the engine is another 900ss. I think the S model 900's with the floating rear brake were 00-01.

Found your new seat and mirrors!  [laugh]

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14171055500_a4e1ca99d6_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nAfn67)Bucks new seat (https://flic.kr/p/nAfn67) by scoober11031 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5507/14170994438_d780f55eab_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nAf3Wj)and mirrors (https://flic.kr/p/nAf3Wj) by scoober11031 (https://www.flickr.com/people//), on Flickr

I would need the appropriate riding gear then;

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 [laugh]

Here ya go:

http://retrobikegear.com/jphelmet-ft005-open-face-helmet--white-wcheckered-f005.html (http://retrobikegear.com/jphelmet-ft005-open-face-helmet--white-wcheckered-f005.html)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H0JE7XA/ref=asc_df_B00H0JE7XA3164689?tag=thefind0231378-20&creative=395261&creativeASIN=B00H0JE7XA&linkCode=asn (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H0JE7XA/ref=asc_df_B00H0JE7XA3164689?tag=thefind0231378-20&creative=395261&creativeASIN=B00H0JE7XA&linkCode=asn)

 [laugh] [laugh]

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Damn that is nice mate. Looking forward to some assembly pics of this beasty. All the bits accruing are just teasing the crap out of us!  ;D

went up against this ugly basti'd...

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Talked dirty to it the whole time

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so much better

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tackled the tach swap...this wasn't frivolous money, I had a NOS dash from an S4 with an ECU controlled tach, I needed to do this to even use it

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went in without a fight. Swapped the indicator lights for red LED's while I was in there

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Cleaned up my precious...she's still so purdy...can't wait to put her on when Speedog finishes putting the Matris carts in my forks.

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Bought this today...it's a Mikuni DF62-702, the dimensions are the same as OE and the flow rate is similar.

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But it has 2 outlets...I'm going to use a Y connector like this

(http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/productimages/OG/633014276877552429yconnct.jpg)

and hopefully all will be well? I dig that it matches the OE one 'cept for being black. If it works out I'll be somewhat of a useful pioneer for something other than things to NOT do around here. :P

Fixed it for ya.  :P

haha, gotcha. Those Italians sure aren't in a hurry.

Shiiiit. You ever been there? Itals start working at like 10 then take a siesta fer like 2 hrs then mosey on back to work with a buzz for a couple more hours to then go back to the cafe after "work"(at least Florence was like this before the euro).

Florence was still like that in 07/08 when I lived there

and the rest of Italy

The Italian solution: Pirelli rubber on Carrozzeria forged aluminum

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Beautiful wheels.

Carrozzeria sent me the wrong front wheel!! I didn't notice until now that I have 5 rotor mounting points instead of 6.

And I already ordered my front axle...for an S2R800, which is forks I already have and the wheel I was supposed to get...

Does anyone know if 1100/796/S4R front wheels are even compatible with the 25 mm S2R 800 forks?? :(

5-bolt wheels are set up for a separate axle spacer on both ends.
Really, they're rings that run on seals in the wheels as well.
So the axle is different, and has an additional spacer on the right side, and a different spacer on the left side.

The S2R800 axle will work with the S2R800 forks.

The unknown at the moment is what configuration of spacers the Carrozzeria wheel is set up for.
It doesn't have the additional seals, well, at least on the one side in the pics.

What brake rotors do you have?

The rotors I have will not work. And it sounds to me as if my front speedometer won't work, nor will the S2R800 axle I just ordered.

By the way thanks for that info Speeddog. You've already told me enough to know that I won't be using this wheel.

I have the same model wheels on Edgar. Best bang for the buck wheels IMO. And they're purdy.

 [laugh]

What did I miss?

Quick update on the wheel mishap;

Carrozzeria has accepted responsibility and have arranged a UPS pickup at their expense, and apparently will be expediting the correct wheel. Even with the understanding that it has been anodized. So big ups to them, pending receipt of the new wheel.

The sales rep really over complicated the sale of this wheel set by over analyzing it. Since the forks I'm using are are Marzocchi from an S2R, rebuilt with new cartridges, it was constantly stressed how "custom" the wheel set was...it isn't. Everything about the dimensions of non adjustable Marz. Are identical to the non adjustable Showas; axle, caliper mounts and all. It's just a pair of wheels for a 99+ DSS Monster...nothing oddball about it. That would have saved me quite the headache.

I just hope the anodizing on the replacement is as nice as what I paid for. Hard coat black anodizing is amazing.

Yippee, more NOS stuff, and a bizzare tail chop bracket from TPO + more Ti;

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Really it's the NOS stuff that tickles me the most. I'm hoping the bike has the "new bike smell" when it's done;

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I wouldn't mind more info on the kickstand.  My OEM one on my 2001 M600 is soooo flimsy, and has me worried.

The whole assembly was $88 from Valtermotousa on ebay. I bought it for the perch, I'm using a billet kickstand from SSR

hopefully you are not flipping the bike around, using the stand as a pivot.

That's funny but I can think of 2 people on this forum whose side stands have spontaneously snapped, sooo..maybe it's not an unreasonable fear Joshua has.

Wait, so I could swap an SSR side stand onto my OEM perch?  Not to highjack your thread, but here is a picture of mine.

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk215/joshuajcrouch/IMG_20140428_171905891_HDR_zpsf26d537d.jpg)


Never done that.  The thing just seems flimsy putting it on its side stand.

Oh and you're not jacking anything Joshua, no worries. All I mounted a tail light on an otherwise empty frame yesterday. Nothings happening in this thread till I have an engine and 2 wheels. :)

Sweet!  Now I am on a hunt for one.  I noticed that its 1" longer.  Are you concerned about how your bike will lean with a longer side stand?

No, I needed that extra since I raised the overall height with risers in the back and a 170 tire upfront. The stand is perfect.

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Good on you for finally finding some. [thumbsup]

it's not the stand that one should worry about when flipping it.... it's what the stand is attached to.

There's been a few threads on broken cases ay? :o

I was talking about snapped side stands...I dunno what you guys are going on about :)

A broken stand is bad enough, bike falls over and gets damaged. There have been broken engine cases where the stand bolts to the motor. Rare, but would ruin your day. I've not seen one myself.

Damn that makes me nervous, my engine stand bolts to the kickstand mount and I'm building my bike that way. All of you nervous nellies knock this talk off right now!

 [laugh]

It's only when a hi load is put on the side stand. Say like transporting in the pick up with the bike strapped down on its side stand, or pivoting a bike around on it. When the ute hits a big bump, bang! The case cracks. There is some conjecture that the new thinner cases are more susceptible to it.

The engine stands have the load spread over 4 to 6 bolt holes, not a whole bikeweight  on two on one side. Not worried about that. Like I've said, I've not seen it. I just don't see enough Ducatis to come across it.

Must be horrible when it happens.

Not as bad as a cracked case at the motor mount.

Every time a mechanic unfamiliar with Ducs has seen my bike he can't believe it's 2 10mm bolts holding that engine in, with the engine serving as a stressed member for the swingarm to boot. It still strikes me as crazy sometimes.

I've repaired a fair number of those stand bolt holes, usually TimeSerts.
A couple welded up and TimeSerted.

An 1198 customer of mine, someone backed into his bike, knocked it over the hard way, against the stand.
Broke the cases, bike totaled out.

New cases are thinner, but supposedly stronger material.

Nearly every bike that comes in on a flatbed is cranked down really tight onto the sidestand.
I try to educate the owners and flatbed drivers that it's not a good idea.

This is the first bike I have ever owned that did not get spun 180 on it's kickstand.  While it was a neat trick I think I may owe this forum a debt of gratitude for having posts up clearly saying not to do it.

Might have saved my bike by now as I used to think nothing of using the side stand for a 180 spin out of a parking spot.....

I took a left turn with my kickstand down on my old 95 900ss. It br
oke the case but not a hole in it.  I had an alum. plate made to connect the kickstand to another engine hole.
I kept it up right but it was scary. 
Needless to say, I haven't made that mod to any future Ducatis I've had.  Flip up kickstand, ok in my book.

Wondering what people with carb smarts think...

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No Keihin FCR-40's?

No, I just used what I had sitting around as a prop. I'm wondering if anyone has any "theory" to offer. Good, bad, or indifferent.

The gold sorta grew on me...but everything looks nice when it's new.

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Well the topless one will have more surface area which is good.
Topless one looks better but might have some folks staring.
Not sure if there would be more turbulence from the freedom the topless one will have.
Also, not sure about Ohio, but in NYS topless is legal.

I thought NYC was more progressive than that.

Hrrm, turbulence. I wish I was handy, I'd make little carbon fiber "shrouds" for in front of my pods.

You're going to lose a few horse power up top from the pods, but you probably won't notice it.

If you are determined to use pods, I would use the newer, topless pods on your 100% build and the more used pods on the 750. Just on new Vs old thing. ;D However for the sake of data you could compare both back to back on the 750 with the same jetting and report back. The open top pods should flow more air. Maybe only a dyno and gas sniffer will show anything, I don't know.

Oh it's noticeable, even for someone as slow as me. I really despise the bulky airbox though, and I have never seen anyone really determined to max out the potential of the pods. Mark Sutton is who recommended these to me but never really elaborated on it. I may spend the cash to have him tune the bike when it's finally done.

Well it would just be silly to drop all this coin and not have it tuned.

Yep.

Nick got my stanchions ano'd BLACK and Matris carts installed;

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I need to paint the bottoms black to match.

And after 3 months of waiting, the virtually unobtanium STM reservoirs in black.

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I think they're the best looking ones I've seen, not too blingy and purposeful .

Thanks to Koko's advice to be mindful of the superior flow rate of the OE pentagon pump I went with this, I'll use a Y fitting since a 2 outlet pump was the only high flow option from Mikuni. (Wish I had split FCRs...this would be perfect for that.


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When buying Mikuni vacuum pumps be wary of knock offs; there are a ton out there of poor quality and you don't save a significant amount of money.

Black forks is one of the things I need to do. Looks sweet.  [thumbsup]

The pump looks good in satin black. Should help hide it.

Doesn't fit :(

The extra outlet fouling something, or bigger pump body (looks the same size as oem)?

The bracket holes are spaced out too far, I was hoping it would be a direct swap. I can secure but it won't look like a nice clean OE part.

Dremmel the holes into ovals and use wide washers.

 Or oval washers!

BIG props to #Carrozzeria for making me whole. :)

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Any solution for the fuel pump?

I think I can grind out the holes like Memper suggested. Kinda set that aside for now.

Bad news from my engine tech...pretty pissed about the delay but it is what it is...so I'm taking the heads back from him and sending them to Ducshop for porting and rebuilding to console myself...needed a silver lining.

And finally unwrapped my PC'ed goods...exceeded all expectations...the swingarm has gone from my least favorite part of the bike to one of the sexiest...it looks dripping wet...HOT! I about popped a boner.

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DP fender looks great too...pretty much settles my inner debate between the black or bare aluminum;

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Headlight ring PC'ed as well...such a tough finish even I couldn't fk it up while I was struggling to get it in the carbon bucket with the Trucklite;

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So, now that the engine is getting delayed again, I need to do more performance related mods to kill the time....so heads will get shipped off for porting, and I'm considering "swiss cheesing" the primary gears ala Dub Luv...adding an SBK light oil pump...already have the Nichols flywheel...hrrmm...any suggestions?

Put everything else together  ;D

Do you have the exhaust yet?

Haha I'm going to, as soon as I get my forks back from Speeddog. Then roll it around the garage making vroom noses.

I planned on reusing my RoadRacing exhaust. ..but now I kinda want MIVV cans...will make way better power than the RR.

Yes, I am bored, and wish I could really put my bike together so for now I can just pretend with what I have..

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You can almost imagine what the front end will look like!

Does the last pic look squashed, or is that just my monitor? Photobucket edits have an odd time delay.

Any ceramic coating or polishing on the RR cans?

I painted them and they look like crap...and they'll probably get crappier when they're fired up. I will likely have the cans ceramic coated, it's funny you should ask. I have black wrap for the pipes...but should probably ceramic coat those as well. My only concern is this caveat from BHP:

http://boneheadperformance.com/ceramic-coating/ceramic-coating-break-in-procedure/ (http://boneheadperformance.com/ceramic-coating/ceramic-coating-break-in-procedure/)

I like exhaust wrap...just not sure I like it for *this* bike...the problem is I did a VERY Mickey Mouse job of modifying the RR exhaust to suit my 900, used a sleeve and very poorly done tack welds. The wrap hides that; you can see the subtle bulge in this old photo.

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If I keep the RR exhaust, it would look marvelous to ceramikote everything, but it would behoove me to have the exhaust professionally welded first.

All image hosting is blocked by my works servers.  This thread is killing me  [bang] [bang]

haha, you're not missing much but thanks. :) In fact, since the tech I hired to assemble my engine has now told me it could be WINTER before it's done, I have lost all faith in his competency...and now need a new one. Mark Sutton is willing to do it but he's BIG $$$$...my other options are Matt Carr @ Ducati Indianapolis who has a glowing reputation, European Cycle Service or FBF.

So now that the original guy has cost me 3 months  [bang]  [bang] [bang]  I'm back at square one. :( I'm open to referrals....

Go with Matt. I've seen his work. Dudes an EPIC engine builder. Well worth the $$. All of those guys there are top notch.

Good to hear, thanks. They're about 6 hours from me, not a big deal. Would be a good excuse to drive out to CA, work, and pick up my motor otw back.

A better look at the cases, covers, and heads.

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Even my new Ricks starter is a looker;

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On the road now...need to earn more cash to keep throwing it at this bike...

Love fresh motor paint. [thumbsup]

Ooh la la!

You should see how it's all gonna look with the silver barrels. Bow-chikka-bow-wowww! My wife is gonna be reeeal jealous. And she should be.

 [laugh]

Looks great B N!  [thumbsup] Cant wait to see the finished result :)

 [beer]

I always use a bottle brush on the inside of the exhaust pipes on bikes like yours.  Keeps me man bits from getting dirty......   ;D

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Nick (Speeddog) installed the cartridges and brokered the anodizing. He also went a step further and did a really nice paint job on the caliper mounts/bottoms. The whole package was top notch, dude hit it out of the ballpark! Can not recommend enough!!!  [beer] [drink]

Is it too much black? Maybe this Motowheels steering stem nut will provide some contrast;

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Freaking awesome!  Those look incredible, can't wait to hear how it rides.  Do you have an estimated time of completion?  Hopefully it will be before he end of the summer.  If not your gonna spend an entire winter spending even more cash lol.   [thumbsup]

Thanks dude!!! The engine is in the hands of my guy now, fella named Chris Birkle of "Racing Sport Services" who Silas emphatically recommended. It'll be shimmed and ported and he said 6 weeks at the High end. Then I can begin building. I'm going to head west for an endless summer this year, no OH winter for me! Recommend some good roads along the PCH and I'll give you a full breakdown of the Matris setup. :)  [thumbsup]

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Do one better,  take you down some of those roads.

 [thumbsup]  [beer] I'll be bumming around SoCal from late October (if the bike is done) until - ?.

You probably meant to say Nick...

I don't why I keep doing that. Damn Mods with single syllable N names...that I have starkly different rapport with hehe.

It's because I'm old and cranky...

and Nick isn't as old...or cranky. :-*

Did the red LED mod in the nos cluster;

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The coolant idiot light that gives away that this is an S4 dash is bothering me. Just seems tacky. Luckily the "plate" from the correct 600/750 dash has a part # and it's only $20. Since that's the last thing making this cluster completely correct since the tach is a DP mechanical one for a carbed bike I've gone ahead and ordered it.

I adore the RR exhaust and I'm somewhat committed to it, but it is going to need some serious overhauling to be suitable for this bike. Drilled out the rivets and pulled this giant turd out:

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The whole thing needs gutted and re-done. There's like 3 chambers of baffling all wrapped up in some cruddy steel wool. All that is going in the trash in favor of a straight perforated tube wrapped with some fiberglass. There's some posts on the "other" board detailing this a long with much improved flow and a better exhaust note. And I have a local metal guy making some new end caps out of aluminum, and all will be ceramic coated. So this piece of poo will be made worthy.

Hmmm...maybe MH900 exhaust tips/end caps?

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Same diameter?

And yes to gutting it. :)

I don't know yet, I've messaged the seller.

I'm trying to wrap my brain around the concepts of exhaust scavenging and the need (or lack of) for some kind of crossover within. I guess RR must have had a reason for this odd design, but all of the anecdotal forum info I come across says this exhaust is not good for power (which I can attest to) and it needs to be "gutted" for best results. "Best" meaning what tho? I always felt like this thing did a nice job on my 750 at the low and mid range so I don't want to sacrifice any of that grunt chasing more peak power. I also don't mind a loud exhaust obviously, but as loud as this thing is already I can't even imagine having nothing inside. I'm thinking of straight perforated tubes with a fiberglass packing wrapped around it, and new tips like the ones pictured with a spark arrestor grill.

Hopefully some exhaust gurus will chime in?

I've found scavenging VERY important, but the RR exhaust has it.
But cant say how good it is.

I had that exhaust on my bike for a while and found that it didn't have much clearence.. I could grind it down in a school zone!   ;D

This is one of the posts that inspired me to work on the exhaust;

Diggin this carbon bucket so much I may sell some plasma and get the matching brackets.


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Got impatient and put the front end together...

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Experienced some drama...my speedometer drive is not a suitable spacer for this wheel, but the provided one from Carrozzeria worked. On one hand I'm annoyed but on the other, I guess it's time to ditch the idea of an OE dash (more money wasted  [bang] ) and get the Trailtech Voyager I decided I REALLY want. :D


(http://www.trailtech.net/media/content/voyager-header/025-TM3.jpg)


GPS...speedometer...tachometer...and way more. The perfect James Bond dash.

http://www.trailtech.net/digital-gauges/voyager-moto-gps (http://www.trailtech.net/digital-gauges/voyager-moto-gps)

niiice!  [thumbsup]

Where'd you get the headlight bucket?

It's a Motowheels bucket, guy was selling it new on eBay for some reason, nabbed it for $80. I guess he didn't like it!

make the beast with two backs that's delicious.

Check out the features of this thing. It's geared toward off road riders but I think it'd be great for anyone who has one swiss army bike for commuting, adventuring, canyon carving cafe hopping etc. I'd use the crap out of it. And it looks fantastic. Way more fitting for this build than the clunky analog clocks. That billet protector comes in clear, black and red too. :)

No, the contrast is good. Be careful not to get too matchy matchy.

I'm thinking about coating my Pantah valve covers red.

I just meant that with the bucket and the mounts in CF it might look too matchy matchy. I think the contrast between the CF bucket and the steel mounts makes the headlight stand out more.

I originally thought that as well, then I saw them together on a Motowheels project bike and thought it looked superb. If you look up their "custom LED headlight" you'll see what I mean. In any case I found a new pair of CF brackets on ebay I was gonna nab for cheap but I snoozed and missed out on sniping em.  [bang]

   I just took this gorgeous NOS oil cooler...

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And did this to it:

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I feel kinda bad but it had to be black.

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Don't feel bad. It was meant to be black.

I'm waiting until something on my bike breaks and I can degrease mine and do the same thing.

I'm loving that billet hoop. How do the dimensions on that one compare to the original piece ? After a while on mine I noticed my header pipe rubbing the hoop. Easy fix though. That's the only thing that's stopped me from getting one of those.

Grubby; you want to know the difference in width, not added height, right?

If it's clearance for your exhaust, 8.79 mm at the widest point, and the same additional amount of depth. Where that "boxiness" above the rose/heim joints begins is the difference.

Used engine paint that claimed to have ceramic in it, seemed like a good choice for an aluminum oil cooler. I've read that baking it an a 150 deg oven for an hour or so then letting it remain untouched until cooled down would yield good results;

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I'm pretty happy with how it turned out! the speechless expression on my woman's face when she opened the oven was fun too :P. The oven curing seemed to make it significantly glossier, and much tougher too!

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Seeing the billet hoop on the freshly PC swingarm in photos made me realize how inappropriate the old zinc plated rod ends were, so I've remedied this with some new stainless ends:

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That black/stainless combo is so clean and crisp.

not wanting to make a stupid comment, but wouldn't a paint with ceramic in it be more of an insulator?

Just going by what the can says;

"Dupli-Color® Engine Enamel contains Ceramic Resins for maximum heat dissipation" whatever that means.

I'll keep an eye on the oil and engine temp tho, thanks for reminding me.

i was curious, but obviously wrong.  interesting.

Not necessarily wrong, It's not like it'll be good for cooling...just hoping it doesn't hinder it any more than a negligible amount. I didn't coat the fins heavily, just a light dusting.

I was just thinking the same as Brad about the ceramic, and you about those rose joints. Much cleaner all stainless!

Buffing rose joints on a Saturday night! woot

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Thats' gold right there!
I'll be curious how these filters differ from the RU 1750's I have.

Those are what I'm replacing. These have about 30% more filter area and considerably more volume. I'd be curious how they compare on the same bike with the same mods.

Yes, & it'll take 2 minutes to swap back & find out !   

Every day that a part arrives in the mail is a good day.

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Porn.

One of the nice things about all the extra time on my hands waiting for the engine, is the little details I think up to pass it. Chopped the unneeded ignitor brackets (Ignitech) off my coil bracket with an angle grinder and didn't lose any body parts... :P

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Then filed, sanded, and swiss cheesed it a little to lighten it (thanks for the idea Koko)

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Then sprayed it red :D

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But I fked around and touched it while the paint was wet, so now I'll strip it and swiss cheese it some more before re-doing.

If it doesn't look like it'll snap just looking at it, you didn't swiss cheese enough  ;D

 [laugh]

Mainly I just got lazy...my drill sucks and I was putting all my body weight into each hole.

Take that guard off and try harder!  [laugh]

With the Exactfit coils I really went to town with the drill Swiss cheesing the bracket, but with the hand grenade Dynas I just cut the ears off it.

Imma hit it hard tomorrow! I'll try not to drill a hole in my foot, can't give Scoober the satisfaction  [laugh]

 ;D

sounds like you need to sharpen your drill bit...

Sex.

Were did you buy these filters?

Wiktor

Cant wait to see this bike finished  [thumbsup]

I ordered them from advanceautoparts.com., they are RX4040-1. Same I.D as the RU1750's but with added filter area on top and bigger overall. They have the best price by far if you use coupon code TRT41 it's 40$ off $100.

Long story short, I didn't have to pay for these, I had an extremely minor/almost non issue with my original set that I contacted Chris about and to my shock he replaced them with one of his V2 sets. I insisted on paying and he and Candice refused my money. That dude should never have to pay for a  [drink], ever.  [bow_down]

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I also did the RIT dye treatment to my mudguard clips, was pretty impressed with how well it worked it looks OE. Treated that little front fairing/cover whatevertheFkitscalled thingy that mounts behind the rectifier as well.

good story...  [thumbsup]

as a side note, I ordered them filters! :)  cant have you having all the fun!!  ;D

Me too! Filters on tha way :D

Sooooo....what are you gonna do with your original gauges?  I happen to be needing a new bezel to replace mine with a cracked speedo glass  ;) ;) ;)

Hiya Jumpt

I've already sold my nos guages, however I do have a NOS tachometer and housing, it's from a 2001 S4 but the housing, bezel, and glass should work for any Duc that has that type of dash.

Cool, you'll probably experience them well before I do, so be sure to report the ass dyno results!

Swiss cheesed the bracket a little more...was too chicken to go much further but it's still better! My OCD is telling me to have this powder coated instead of my spray job, I think I have issues...

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Also ordered Ti fork pinch bolts and aluminum caliper mount bolts on the advice of Pro-Bolt. Those guys have a ton of very pretty aluminum alloy nuts and bolts. A good alternative to costly Ti for light duty fasteners. I am usually loathe to buy bolt kits but I am very tempted by one of their full engine kits for only $100 bones....

(http://www.probolt-usa.com/media/catalog/product/cache/4/image/265x265/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/T/E/TEMPLATEALLOYENGINER.jpg)

You might want to take a look at the Pro-Bolt page listing the characteristics of the materials they use and compare the shear modulus specifications of their aluminum compared to SS and/or Ti and decide if the difference is acceptable to you.

I will typically only replace bolts that rely on clamping strength as opposed to shear, and that's most of them. Some obvious exceptions are the upper shock pivot, and even that one is probably relegated to mostly clamping duty with the actual shock and pivot/hoop bearing the actual load.

Even the rotor bolts I'd feel safe running stainless (and I do). I can't even imagine putting enough stress to shear off a single one of those, who is even still controlling their bike at that point? Not to mention how often do you hear about something critical failing because of a sheared bolt aside from the head and engine mount bolts...

Not meaning the SS ones. I had in mind the Al caliper mount application you mentioned. Shear loads are primary in that instance.

I also use SS bolts but have been switching to Ti incrementally as I work on the bike.

Although I am biased against Al bolts in just about every application for several reasons, I will shut up about them now.  ;D

Just for giggles I Googled https://duckduckgo.com/?q=motorcycle+sheared+bolt to see what would come up. Probably a lot of over-torqued instances done by hammer and tong mechanics with gorilla grips, but there might be a few of interest in there.

Edit: Okay, I read a few of them and see that there is vast misunderstanding of bolt failures and that a large percentage of failures due to torsional overloads are mischaracterized a sheared bolts. Which brings up the old argument to use the correct torque procedures. Still was interesting reading.

The caliper mounts are an instance where that proprietory Brembo 10x1.0 is really a pain in the ass. My options were the crappy plated ones or Ti. Stupid.

Alloy caliper mount bolts?  Did I read that right? I'm using my phone.
Go Ti or oem. Oem cost very little I found, but the plating does appear thin. I noticed they went from a gold to silver zinc. Dont know if it will last better or worse.

I was mistaken, what I purchased was stainless M10X1.25X25...Pro-Bolt doesn't even sell an M10 aluminum socket cap screw. But looking at the tensile strength out of curiosity, even of the aluminum alo bolts, it's difficult to imagine exerting enough braking force even to shear those off? if a tensile strength of 570 mpa means 730psi before the bolt would deform, and the shear strength is 330MPa (47.9 x 10.3psi) then over 480 pounds of pressure would have to be applied directly at the point where it would ultimately break (shear) in half? Am I reading this correctly? If so, 2 calipers sharing braking duties with whatever load ultimately ends up transferring to each one of 4 screws...not that I'd take any chances, but it seems pretty unlikely that a screw would shear in half, no?

I honestly wouldnt know, except I wouldnt sleep well on the alloy ones. I just think of how hard its possible to brake with the rear in the air with the bikes mass multiplied by its speed and leverage kind of thing. I dont know the equation, but my gut says no to alloy bolts for that role.

yeah, no way would I use ally brake calliper (or rotor) bolts...
stainless are fine though, been using them for years

Buck, PM sent.

The mechanical properties claimed by Pro-Bolt for their aluminum fasteners (7075-T6) are shear strength and ultimate tensile strength roughly equal to  18-8 or 316.

In a perfect world, it'd be fine.

But.

7075-T6 is a fairly brittle material, which is the case for most high-strength alloys of any material.
So it doesn't stretch much before it breaks.
The amount it stretches before it breaks, the 'elongation', is about the same as the highest strength metric alloy-steel fasteners (Grade 10.9, 12.9).

And it's ultimate strength is about the same as the aforementioned SS fasteners, and the typical bottom-of-the-barrel 6.8 fasteners that you're likely to get at 'big-box' stores, Home Depot and the like.
But it's only about half the strength of the 10.9 and 12.9 fasteners.

So it's about as strong as the low grade steel or Stainless, but it's brittle like the high strength alloy steels.

That, combined with the poor corrosion resistance of 7075-T6, makes them a poor choice for mission-critical fasteners.

Various locations like engine sidecovers, cam covers, valve covers, bodywork, airbox, electrical components...where the failure of a single bolt isn't going to throw you down on the pavement... go for it.

But brake calipers, where you've only got two bolts, and if one breaks, you're make the beast with two backsed.
Or triple clamp bolts, clipon bolts, rearset bolts, master cylinder bolts.....
You're better off with a steel or stainless fastener.

If you're racing with someone else's budget, and you've got pro wrenches that replace fasteners often and torque 'em right.
Then , roll the dice.
But it's racing, and shit does break every so often.

Putting it another way... you can indiscriminately ride bareback, but it's not even a safe short-term plan, let alone a long-term one.

Are the oem zinc or cad plated? The dealer said zinc.

Pro-Bolt sure does have nice stainless...wowz. Now I have to polish all the others.  [bang]

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Pretty! [drool]

Exhaust is back from the ceramic coaters 😃

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F ugly chain guides:

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Scrubbed and boiled in RIT dye for 20 mins:

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I like that!   [thumbsup]

what's RIT dye?

Hey Monsta Geoff it's clothing dye. There's a few threads on here 'bout it. The amount of dye some of them tell you to use it outrageous tho. I've dyed just about every piece of plastic on my bike now, some parts take to it better than others. The mud guard clips and now these chain runners turned out the best. One bottle or pack + a pot of boiling water is all you need and the dye is reusable several times over. Don't use your wife's favorite pit tho! ;)

Looks better than the pic shows, just like it's a factory part. :)

Here's how the mud guard/ fender clips turned out:

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Or you could go this route:

 http://www.chuckbrazeau.com/ducati/fendermounts.html (http://www.chuckbrazeau.com/ducati/fendermounts.html)

Lots of beautiful parts going on this bike.   [Dolph]   [thumbsup]  Why not replace the huge OEM handlebar switches?   [popcorn]

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I like that!   [thumbsup]

what's RIT dye?
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I do have the right hand kill switch from a Panigale, similar to Kopfjäger's here:

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But you're right about the left switch...when I found a NOS one it made perfect sense at the time, and being fresh and new it certainly helps, but I do feel a bit of regret...it really is BIG.

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/6/3/3/5/7/6/webimg/594638691_tp.jpg)

Any suggestions? Problem is if I get something else it would have to look ok with the Panigale switch else I'd be looking at replacing both. The matching left switch looks fantastic but it won't work, uses latching relays and I don't have the brain power to figure it out.

Really being inspired by this built. How hard was it to wire up a Panigale switch to a Monster? The connecting points look different.

The panigale switch is cool, but still super wide and bulky.. If I ever changed switches, it'd be for something slimmer so I have more space on my controls.

These are slick but crazy overpriced (harley crowd).http://www.viciouscycleworks.us/khxc/ccp0-catshow/micros.html (http://www.viciouscycleworks.us/khxc/ccp0-catshow/micros.html)

I got some more stuff back from powder coating but this time I used a local company and the results were pretty meh. The stuff he coated black was "acceptable" but my expectations were high because of how good Bonehead Performance was. Kinda bumpy here and there. But the main problem was he screwed up the gas cap flange and the Bevel valve covers, so I asked him to just blast em for me, and he only charged me $50 for the belly pan + brackets, swingarm end caps,  brake hose guide, and some other junk.

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 The belly pan is gonna look sweet with the matching fender..

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Here you can see where a buddy of mine cut out the "license plate" light section of the Competition Werkes bracket and rewelded it as I have an all in one tail light.

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 The end caps I'm pretty stoked on...they look slick with the black swingarm and stainless button head screws fixing them to the slider blocks. I'll use small serrated stainless washers when I assemble everything and hope they don't loosen up! Or get the Lightech M8×90 full thread flange nuts...

 I was a bit bummed I didn't get back some nice Ducati (Red Baron) red valve covers and since I'm impatient decided to have a go at spray painting them...the Rustoleum silver high heat paint looked to be a very good match for the "Bengal Silver" powder on my barrels. I'm actually pretty stoked at how they came out and am glad I didn't end up with red!

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  The rattle can instructions told me to bake them 3 times so I hope this works out...

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  Having this klownhole of a coater screw up the flange was the real kick to the nuts...I used the same engine paint as I used on the oil cooler 'cept I laid it on thick and cured it at 200 degrees for an hour then 400 degrees for a half hour. It looks pretty crappy but I'm hoping I can buff it out...the can claims it's resistant to solvents...I'm pretty skeptical espec since it's a GAS cap flange but like I say I'm impatient...

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All cooled down...I'm happy with 'em. :)

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If you ever get invited to Bucks place for a baked dinner you best eat before you go!  [laugh]

 enough  [drink]  [shot]  and you'll be fine :P

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That's a lot of moto-porn in a small picture.  [beer]


His missus is gonna clock him with a frying pan one of these days.  [cheeky]

Those, Motogadget (I have one as the starter button on my Bandit) and Pingel all make small but expensive switches.
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I'm sure there are others.

I think Stu used the Pingel switches on Spidey's grey Monster.  The Pingel switches are thinner than the Motogadget switches.

I did.  Bike needed 4 switches to do it all and they were $125 each...  So, uh, yeah...

Does anyone know the name and address of whoever engineered that rubber seal between the gas cap flange and tank?   >:(

Put the flange in just a tiny bit shy of 'all the way'.

Then you can persuade the gasket in.

Then finish installing the flange.

I was able to get it 98% with that advice, thanks SD. At first I was trying to go at an offset, tightening down one set screw at a time but that wasn't going to work. I had to have it seated evenly all the way around where each screw could tighten up against the rim to hold it in place then coax it on. There is one little "wrinkle"...maybe later I'll get anal enough to fix it and have another go but not right now.

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These switches look good on the internets... but I've never seen them in person.
http://www.highwaydirtbikes.com/HDB_Shop/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=catshow&ref=switch_mounts&sid=2cx5345827ca5192g7jb84b96357840s (http://www.highwaydirtbikes.com/HDB_Shop/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=catshow&ref=switch_mounts&sid=2cx5345827ca5192g7jb84b96357840s)

Not an exhaust guru but the dyno runs on my M900/FCRs with the RR vs Galasetti 2/1 back you up. A few more HP/Ft/lbs low and midrange and a few less on top. As I generally ride between 3500-6,000K rpm I like the RR.



Have you measured the RR cans?  They're 3". I found out the hard way. :cry.
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=68912.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=68912.0)
Lots of Harley related baffles/end caps online. Looking to fab a new setup. If I can lose a few db and not compromise back pressure, I'll be ecstatic.

This is where I think I'm going to go with mine:

http://www.vanceandhines.com/download/D189IN.pdf (http://www.vanceandhines.com/download/D189IN.pdf)

The end cap/baffle/glass pack like this V&H. Too bad it's 3.375" instead of 3".

Unless, of course, you want to sell me your end caps and baffles.

Fwiw, mine had the baffles taken out and it was just the perf pipe and steel wool wrapping. Yes, it's loud.

According to my crappy caliper, our exhaust is 3.19" OD and 2.9" ID. I had actually bought these from Summit racing and was optimistic:

(http://static.speedwaymotors.com/RS/SR/Product/85/31179493025_L_174d1a57.jpg)

"Dynatech Torq tips" they're billet and very clean looking, but too small. Supposedly meant for Harley 3" exhausts, but instead of coming flush with the outside, they slide all the way in and are flush with the inside. Didn't look right.

Now I wish I'd snapped up the MH900 tips that were on eBay, but they're gone now.

The ones in the link you posted, are you looking to buy the whole piece, end caps and baffles?

FK Rod ends installed- I used Ti flange and Bumax 88 stainless M10 nuts. Lighter, stronger, and way better looking than the old plated junk.

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/20140909_141635_zpswvxduwhv.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/20140909_141635_zpswvxduwhv.jpg.html)

Question for Monsta: were you able to find replacement "special screws" and sleeve bearings that secure the rod ends to the swingarm? they seem to be some kind of unobtanium same size thread shoulder screw. The sleeve bearings are no biggie but I'd like to replace the "special screw" with Ti or stainless.

I was just going to buy the end cap, baffle, and "wrap" until I talked to V&H and they told me the ID of that exhaust is 3 3/8th" so it won't fit.

There's a whole lot of like stuff on J&P cycles, but your news about a "3" Harley" endcap being too small is a blow to morale. I assumed if would fit brilliantly.


Are you interested in selling me your end caps and baffles?  (I tried to PM last night from Tapatalk but it doesn't appear it went through)

I may also see if the Evolutione end caps are available from Ducati

Hey Dlearl476, double check your inbox and lemme know, I wrote a reply before I went to bed last night but maybe it didn't go through.

According to my fabricator friend who cut and rewelded my headers, that us one of the most unique exhausts he's ever seen. Apparently there is no off the shelf pipe that size, RR fabbed up something proprietory!  Very unusual.  He had to build a device to hold everything and taper/turn down the connecting piece. You can see where it's slightly thicker in this pic:

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/1410277617_zpsijo8yoo_edit_1410291522464_zps3rcqg0ws.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/1410277617_zpsijo8yoo_edit_1410291522464_zps3rcqg0ws.jpg.html)

Exhaust guys or ladies, can ya help me out?


Here I sit with my freshly cored and coated RR system, and as it's completely empty inside I need to do something about that.

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/20140911_151055_zpsrqcgc4z8.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/20140911_151055_zpsrqcgc4z8.jpg.html)

It's the only pic I have but ya get the idea...I'm just wondering, of the different types of baffles pictured;

Short:

(http://www.westendmotorsports.com/images/v21299.jpg)

Long (but with fiberglass packed to the muffler walls):

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7179/6906055613_be263d5ca3.jpg)

Long and narrow with a "bandage" type wrap;

http://blog.dlwelch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Baffles-e.jpg (http://blog.dlwelch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Baffles-e.jpg)

A 2 chambered baffle:

(http://www.cs.xu.edu/~ryanr/misc/kerker_baffle/DSCF0009.jpg)

Tapered from fat to thin?

(http://www.thumpertalk.com/uploads/monthly_05_2014/post-136680-0-25663400-1399190914.jpg)

What the heck is this?

(http://img.jpcycles.com/zoom/632-359_A.jpg)

Then there's shorty disc style silencers...

(http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/productimages/OG/0000-voodoo-speakeasy-adjustable-baffle-mcss.jpg)

Something like this?

(http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/productimages/OG/0000-voodoo-replacement-core-mcss.jpg)

I'm not trying to over think this...it's the opposite...I just want something simple that will tone down the deafening roar a bit, and have a good over all performance effect, preferably a balance between low/mid range benefit and top end...just a good all around/neutral type of choice.

Just throw a long perf stainless tube and wrap it with stainless or fiberglass or both. A few of those shorter ones seem more like db killers.

(http://static.speedwaymotors.com/RS/SR/Product/0/91013984_L_1614bc66.JPG)

Damn comedians around here... [clap]

No, still using the standard one's.
But now that you have pointed it out, I might have to go and machine some up!!   [bang]

Make some for me and I'll $ pay ya! $

It's such a proud moment when I think of details Monsta missed... :D

hahaha
rest assured that your learning me a few things in this thread!   [thumbsup]

Exciting news right here... :P

I wanted a horn.

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(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/2014-09-13%2013.25.13_zps5e7aemcb.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/2014-09-13%2013.25.13_zps5e7aemcb.jpg.html)

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/2014-09-13%2013.26.24_zpsasge1don.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/2014-09-13%2013.26.24_zpsasge1don.jpg.html)

Fairly small and not an eye sore.  Well now it isn't:

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/2014-09-13%2013.34.00_zpsmm8iqykk.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/2014-09-13%2013.34.00_zpsmm8iqykk.jpg.html)

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/2014-09-13%2013.38.25_zps5c6k4vdu.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/2014-09-13%2013.38.25_zps5c6k4vdu.jpg.html)

Almost a full POUND lighter than OE!

Between the fiberglass wrap and the large-holed perf tube people mention above (2nd pic you posted w/the Kerker can), you'll need to wrap the perf tube with a very fine stainless steel mesh.  Otherwise (ask me how I know this), the fiberglass mesh will vacate itself from the muffler in just north of no time at all.

Don't ask me where to find it as I didn't get a chance to re-pack the mufflers on a custom I had built.  The customer just opted for someone else to build another set of pipes.

Can someone please explain an Norwegian dude what scavenging is?

The effect of the exhaust pulse helping the intake process during the period of valve opening overlap. 

On multiple cylinder engines it can also refer to one cylinder affecting another in a similar fashion based on exhaust design.

Thx Dirty Duc  [thumbsup]

yeah, as an extra to Dirty Duc..
Its when the gas flowing from one cylinders exhaust helps suck a fresh charge of air/fuel into another cylinder when its inlet and exhaust valve's are open briefly at the same time...
 

Thanks for the heads up Stu!

Something like, one of these options?

http://www.mcmaster.com/#stainless-steel-mesh/=tro2hn (http://www.mcmaster.com/#stainless-steel-mesh/=tro2hn)

Yes.  I'm unsure of which mesh to suggest, but I know I didn't use anything and fiberglass 'bits' were EVERYWHERE...  Until all the fiberglass packing was gone.  :-\

Always thought it was more like http://steelwooldirect.com/muffler-packing/ (http://steelwooldirect.com/muffler-packing/) than a mesh.

That's what the RR had off the bat, and thanks for that link because now that's what I'll use to repack it. The primary exception I (and others) have with the exhaust is the way it routes the gases out with it's suffocating multi chambered design, not what it's packed with. And I actually really like the tone, even tho I seem to be in the minority there. I honestly wouldn't mind if it stayed the same, a little quieter, or even a little louder.

Found a NOS fuse box cover.... :D

(This is why this thread is almost 20 pages long...because I have no life, lol.)

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 (http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/20140919_152823-1_zpsyegnqyh8.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/20140919_152823-1_zpsyegnqyh8.jpg.html)

M5 titanium button head screws to reinstall it? Kidding...sort of.

Any day now on that engine...

Is a frogs arse water tight?

 ;D

(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTA2NFgxNjAw/$T2eC16VHJF0E9nmFRoprBQ2QjVE4rQ~~60_3.JPG)

http://m.ebay.com/itm/251204206548?nav=SEARCH (http://m.ebay.com/itm/251204206548?nav=SEARCH)

:D

Only an hour an a half left dude!  [laugh]

That's the same seller I got my axle pinch bolts from. Really good prices very fast ship from CN and really tasty Ti. I recommend.

Never mind, this is the guy:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/111444823005?nav=SEARCH (http://m.ebay.com/itm/111444823005?nav=SEARCH)

We berieve it is.

Ti for fairing bolts??

What's the advantage over regular aluminum? Not a strength point and the alum ones are very light.

It's a bit of a running joke. I'm not familiar with the location of the fuse box on Buck's bike, is it just a bracket holding the fuse panel and nothing else?

Yep I'm just clownin,  yo. ;)

Don't lie to yourself, Buck!  :P

Is anyone familiar with Speedhut gauges? I still haven't sorted out what dash I wanna go with and a GPS speedometer would be super slick. They can customize the face in multiple ways as well as add a Ducati logo so it could wind up being a really clean install.

http://www.speedhut.com/gauge/GR4-DUALGPS-ST-01T/1/Dual-Gauge---120mph-GPS-speedometer---8K-Tachometer-(w--turn-signal-and-high-beam) (http://www.speedhut.com/gauge/GR4-DUALGPS-ST-01T/1/Dual-Gauge---120mph-GPS-speedometer---8K-Tachometer-(w--turn-signal-and-high-beam))

Here's one a dude had customized with a Yamaha logo:

(http://blog.weshill.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/20120924-165414.jpg)

The gauge matched the timing lights on the salt... They can customize the speed range, too.

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?v=timeline&filter=1&id=174331669251802

Stock head as received by Chris:

(https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-0/10252067_883261831692112_4650564373094795385_n.jpg?oh=affabf966a22d7d254abc13ab8dc8b07&oe=54BCC54C&__gda__=1422552208_11b7b5be0911294dec5bed9df209d762)

Being prepped for over size valves:

(https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/10606055_883261868358775_8745451043810956444_n.jpg?oh=155827e92c041b42c920d63b4cb29ce1&oe=54B346A1&__gda__=1425579545_9f526cea2b9df0c9762bb7031f89cb8d)

Stock intake and exhaust ports:

(https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-0/1794648_883261931692102_6854013992567688800_n.jpg?oh=9035968e9d54603fd8d4fc6478cdfaf7&oe=54B109EA&__gda__=1420670138_adf0429d8b2501e6090ca598bfaa6465)

(https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-0/10606482_883261968358765_5076339947931815874_n.jpg?oh=2e1a6fcba4ff4331b8c1cdfec568bf54&oe=54B0836F&__gda__=1421540019_11c2a97a8a194f7cf3e39790c4ba645e)

Some porting and a multi angle valve job:

(https://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/10678688_883262035025425_8969934830521182917_n.jpg?oh=3f69e42524019179ab47ea276e5ec00e&oe=54AE4F90&__gda__=1420944890_f657b64e5ad186cb00bcc145b3b44d88)

Exhaust port:

(https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/10423760_883262131692082_7436960600805418961_n.jpg?oh=127b2b0b136907c9200ee2d3da4b8678&oe=54B50D66&__gda__=1420575756_0b0ba289a4206af506a544d16f23b121)

Intake:

(https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-0/1653300_883262161692079_197416716266515243_n.jpg?oh=76e45e578ba526d294a53416e94ed66a&oe=54BFDBCA&__gda__=1420912511_0a2a8a84f8203a0d4231b69d7f91accf)


 [coffee]

Looks cute.

What size valves?

44/39 from KW I believe.

Hey BN,
How did you find this shop?
What about them led you to send your motor there?  
And are they doing just larger valve job and porting to the heads?
Thanks,

The before and after shots really show just how bad the stock ports can be on the old 900's.

Hey

He was recommended to me by a person on this forum who I trust, and I liked what I heard when I spoke to him. His credentials are also pretty impressive, if a little dated. But these motors are pretty dated too... ;) any other questions you have I'll answer via PM.


You ain't kidding...asthmatic!

Nothing wrong with an old school approach to an old school motor. [thumbsup] Staying with the oem cams? He working the manifolds too?

Yes he insisted I send him the manifolds for porting actually..seemed to feel it was worth it.

Stock carby SS cams. I think they're a good choice with the long manifolds based on what I've read.

How's it look?

Pretty flash! :D

the pics are great!
I like that you have a back-light!

looks like he's done a good job...

I finally got baffles...going to go with this interesting setup from a company called "Car Chemistry"...The discs are a perfect press fit and I'll rivet them or maybe use stainless screws to secure them, and pack with steel wool. Will probably let the core protrude from mufflers, I still can't seem to find suitable end caps.

(http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server4200/l55tu/products/803/images/468/large_9_products_inserts_2DI03L__27001.1405423663.1280.1280.gif?c=2)

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Time for an update. [popcorn]

Not much to report till I have my engine...


I successfully bled my front brakes...the old fashioned way because the Mityvac I bought specifically for this purpose was useless and it took me 2 days of cursing to realize it..

That's all I got :)

Got a bunch of material for DIY ground and power cables.

The OE starter circuit (pictured right) really is a sad joke that ANYONE can one-up...

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/20141025_171654_zpszvjblpcv.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/20141025_171654_zpszvjblpcv.jpg.html)

Did you solder or just crimp the new one?

Soldering a crimp wire make it more stiff.  The wire is more likely to brake  at  the wire/ terminal juction.

Soldering cam be used where there a risk for the crimp terminal  to come loose bit it's not usually recomended

Not recomended for battery terminals ... [coffee]  [thumbsup]

I believe someone on this board also stated that in applications with high amounts of vibration, crimping was preferred, and that it was a standard for marine electrical applications for that precise reason. Brittle joints.

From what I understand solder has a fraction of the conductivity of copper, so I tried to pack the lugs as tightly as possible with wire and did the best "DIY crimp" I could with...what I had. ;) I wouldn't brag about my method...but I'm pretty confident it ain't coming loose...and that it will sufficiently show up what Ducati felt was sufficient.

I hadn't thought of what DG100 and Thorn14 pointed about but that makes perfect sense.

Also...I'm not gonna slag the dude, and I've certainly no right to, but I studied those $120 kits intensely...the fancy, ultra special wire he uses is car audio cable from a company called "Amp King ", it's run of the mill 4 gauge amp wire that can be had just north of a buck/ft and doesn't seem to have particularly heat or abrasion resistant jacketing, and the lugs just look like run of the mill tinned copper lugs. With the right crimping tool and good quality welding cable *anyone* can build a kit of equal quality for about $10 in materials.

A copper wire is a copper wire. The only concern is that it has to be oil/eat resistant...

I bougth one of these  kits a couple years ago ..  ;D yes I'm guilty

Ok here the trick go to your local specialized nerdy eletronic store [bow_down]

1x  24"   4awg size automotive wire 5$
1x  16"   4 awg size auomotive wire 5$
4  battery terminals  2$

Ask your girlfriend to come whit you... tell her to go see the guy behind the conter usually at the back of the store.

Ask he if he could help crimp the wire and the terminals becose you dont have the specielized criming tool to do it
 
Most stores will do it

Girlfriend= free
no girlfriend=  5$
 ;D

Total cost  around 20$ + that diner you've promes to your gf a  while ago   [roll]

 [wine]

You can get by with solder if you drill a tiny hole in the side of the lug and feed just enough in to make it stick. Done it on my car stereos for years.

Wire is not wire though. For this application it has to be oxygen free copper, not aluminum clad copper like they sell in the car stereo kits at walmart. And the finer the strands the better. It's more bendy and there is less loss per length.

You're saying it *has* to be oxy free for an A/V application, right?

Seems to me that Motolectric uses the phrase "oxygen free" as a marketing shtick...oxygen free is "better" wire in the sense that less oxygen = more copper and more copper = less resistance, but if 4 AWG welding cable does the job of being your starter circuit just as well, I don't really see an advantage to going with their oxygen free amp wire at over 10x the price and without the added benefit of the ultra tough abrasion and heat resistance of the welding cables insulation.

There's a huuuuge thread on Ducati.ms about the Motolectric cables that almost lured me into buying one of their kits until I realized I was being seduced by the hyperbole of it all. What he kept going back to was the video proving the kit was vastly superior to the OE wiring, which was true...but when challenged as to why his was better than any other aftermarket or home made solution that used superior quality material than the OE stuff, he had to rename marine grade heat shrink; "dual wall mil spec shielding with hot melt sealant" to get his point across. It was all BS. Clever BS, but BS none the less.

I that the degree talking? 
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]

Since I am lazy and I like the quality and every little thing you need in the package convenience I would consider buying Motoelectric cables.   Yep, a lot of BS going on there, particularly oxygen free copper.  Regular copper?  about 2% oxygen.  Oxygen free?  about .5% oxygen.  Better conductor?  Yes.  Will that reduction of .00000whatever voltage drop help you start the bike?  Doubtful.  More corrosion resistant?  Yes.  How many centuries are we worried about

I got some more crap powder coated. The finned valve covers to match the barrels and engine covers, fuel cap flange, a coil bracket I chopped and lightened, rear caliper hanger, and Oberon turn signals. Oh and my alloy swingarm which came out great! But I'm most excited about the turn signals...I love these little guys but the black anodizing scratches if ya look at it cross eyed. All this stuff looks dripping wet and I bet I could shave with my swingarm....

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/2014-11-24%2014.33.32_zpswrih45wi.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/2014-11-24%2014.33.32_zpswrih45wi.jpg.html)

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/2014-11-24%2014.33.32_zpswrih45wi.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/2014-11-24%2014.33.32_zpswrih45wi.jpg.html)

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/20141124_143021_zpssocj1rlf.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/20141124_143021_zpssocj1rlf.jpg.html)

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/20141124_141337_zpstfiqcwpz.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/20141124_141337_zpstfiqcwpz.jpg.html)

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/2014-11-24%2014.42.57_zpsbmy6ftbu.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/2014-11-24%2014.42.57_zpsbmy6ftbu.jpg.html)

 

Very nice. A fine effort on the coil bracket too [thumbsup].
A most anticipated build.

I just...need...this...damn engine which is waiting on ONE ridiculously hard to find part...

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g234/247prophet/10409623_902659183085710_7733839150641636164_n_zpsbaf2a2ca.jpg~original) (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/247prophet/media/10409623_902659183085710_7733839150641636164_n_zpsbaf2a2ca.jpg.html)

Which would be...?

The suspense is killing me!

Flux capacitor

http://www.monsterparts.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/CI-axle_large.jpg (http://www.monsterparts.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/CI-axle_large.jpg)


Invest to keep that swingarm tasty.

Already have em, got from Cody @ Corsair  [thumbsup]

spill the beans...
what part?
I may have it!   ;)

You better take some freakin hi res pics of this puppy once it's built! I wanna be able to perv on all the minute details you've gone full-Rudemouthsky  on [bacon]

No, what was said specifically was to NOT use aluminum clad copper. Use SO cord, use welding lead, use industial structure grounding cable, but for god's sakes don't use aluminum clad cable.

I love that motor. It could be art in some gearhead gallery somewhere. Can't wait to see it done.

A few people have asked about my IMA triple clamps...well I just wanted to post a heads up that they are for sale in the classifieds along with brand new Speedymoto and Cycle Cat clip ons...I've decided to go with an IMA setup that doesn't utilize the risers. They are in perfect condition...

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/engine_zps9e110920.jpg) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/engine_zps9e110920.jpg.html)

I thought the belts were on the right side ;)

i think he's conditioning the engine for wheelies!  [Dolph]

Just got that it was rotated and not a mirror image. Too much whiskey.

That pic drives me crazy. I can't wait to take a proper one - in the frame.

Forgive my ignorance... with the SS vavle cover will the oil cooler sit too low?

That's actually a Monster oc bracket, just installed incorrectly.  :)

I've read anecdotal tales of people running SS coolers and brackets on their Monsters with mixed results, but when the results weren't good it's just that the oc got slightly more beat up from road debris, nothing catastrophic. I do think the low slung coolers on the SS900'S look good.

Finally done....

(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af202/johnnyblaze19761/engine4_zps8459fcee.gif) (http://s1008.photobucket.com/user/johnnyblaze19761/media/engine4_zps8459fcee.gif.html)

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Sweet!  [thumbsup]

CLEAN engine build.  Love the paint detail.

Want to make the 'DUCATI' script """pop""" on the cam end covers?  Try putting some black paint in the background.  I've got a pic somewhere of that on a build I did...

Not true  :D

Keep up the good work and entertainment  [thumbsup]

 :D

 [laugh]

fit the breather valve before you put it in the chassis.

Looks great mate, I'm itching to see it in the bike complimented with all the other mods!

 [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

Beautiful work  [thumbsup]

Thanks ya'll but I gotta take better photos. My guy is a great mechanic/shitty photographer. Can't wait till it's in the frame.

I know there was talk about aftermarket switches but all the truly nice ones were BIG $$$, and none of em seemed particularly functional. I actually dig how this bike is a mix of restoration/custom build so I got all my NOS switches now, they even have a bit of that fresh, rubbery/plasticky "new bike smell"...would be cool if my bike had that smell....

I have a bit of an OCD issue so I had to pick up new OE relays cuz the auto parts store ones don't fit the rubber holder quite right. The "special screw" that acts as a pivot/holder for the oil cooler was impossible to find in stainless, it is one of the truly "special" screws...usually they are some flavor of shoulder bolt, well nut etc. So I got that too.

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It's odd how packages of little bits like this arriving in the mail tickle me the most. The look on my girls face as I set everything up to photograph it while stopping to smell some of the parts here and there was pretty amusing.  [laugh]

Rudemouthsky: Smell that? You smell that?
DMF: What?
Rudemouthsky: NewOldStock, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.
[kneels]
Rudemouthsky: I love the smell of NOS in the morning. You know, one time we trawled eBay, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink old part. The smell, you know that fresh plastic smell, the whole bike. Smelled like....
[sniffing, pondering]
Rudemouthsky: victory. Someday this 944SS mod's gonna end...

baaahahahaha  [laugh]  [beer]

 [laugh] [clap]

 [popcorn]

It's almost tax season again, time for me to go on the road almost full time so I'm taking a long break from the board now to focus on making lots of $$$$. If anyone would like to stay in touch:

elamovs@gmail.com


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Wait a minute...its winter...you owe us M944 build pics now, ya tease.

Don't send us over to d-.ms looking.

DMF taxes require pictures.

All the parts are still just that...a pile of parts. I won't have the engine in my hot little hands for another month or so when I can get to Atlanta. But I'll leave what is possibly the sexist thing I have ever seen in my life...IMA billet. Arrived today :) (and a new gas cap base for the Ducabike gas cap I had a change of heart about selling. )

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 Billet ejector switch :P

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 The clip ons just have me speechless. Works of art, plain and simple.

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Oh Lordy!

This is pure machined sex! [drool] [drool]

Ok I couldn't stand looking at em in boxes so I spent the day supposedly "Xmas shopping".... ;)

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Sorry bout the crappy pics, wish you guys could see it in real life! Ok I gotta run for real this time...cya

Beautiful just beautiful [thumbsup]

Thx!
Silver frame looks great also

 [thumbsup]

Your bike will end up in the Kopfjager/Monsta category.  [drool]

Not with Chinese rotors and tail light it won't  [laugh].
That's ridiculous anyway, Monsta has more talent in his big toe than I have altogether. And Kopfjäger's bike is just plain absurd.

I know I'll have the Monster I want tho. :)

My headlight U bracket ain't going to work with these IMA clipons. :( that's disappointing because I actually really like the U and think it's much cleaner than fork brackets. Has anyone ever encountered this with classic, forward mounted clipons? It's really not even close to working but I've searched, and not seen this issue pop up.

I guess I'll go with the CNC Racing ones, they will allow me to retain my carbon fiber brackets and are probably the tiniest of anything out there. Unless someone has another idea?

I have the CNC racing brackets, they are fiddly to get set right but work fine once done. Definitely try to get a color match on the forks, as they stick out otherwise.

Do they protrude out about the same as OE? One thing I don't like about a lot of brackets is the headlight sticks out too far, looks silly. But the CNCR piece utilizes the OE ears so I'm assuming it's about the same.

I think I'll need 50mm uppers and 54 lowers. Another pointless gripe I have is in re: to lowering...don't see the point. The "correct" height is when the top of the bucket matches the top of the tank...and the OE arrangement pretty much nails that.

'Tis a guy in the classifieds selling a new set of them for full price...which I guess is fair but I offered him a ransom of REALLY nice stuff in trade and ever since he's been blowing me off. But for full price I'd rather just get em from a dealer.

If anything it is more tucked in, but I'm fairly sure it's about the same distance as there was barely any clearance for my HID retrofit behind the bucket.

Measure carefully as depending on where the brackets fall you may have a different diameter on the forks. I lowered mine but they should work fine in the stock height.

... So you won't be needing that purdy little U-bracket? ;D

Haha, yeah so I guess it's available. Freshly powder coated black with coated black brackets.

I'd actually gotten this from a Monster that had only 1,046 miles along with wiring harnesses and other stuff so especially now with the PC it's like a new bracket.

Wish I could use it...the clamps on these IMA clipons are bizarre. And the pinch bolts are back behind the steering stem in the most p.i.t.a spot imaginable. But I fekn love the posture and the look so they're not going anywhere. Oh and they were $350....so maybe just a bit too much invested, lol.

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Mate, despite your humble assessment, your bike will be worthy ;).
It's a good example of Partial Rudemouthsky and not Full Rudemouthsky, which is more achievable for most of us.  ;D

what forks are those ? I've never seen those type of caps before.

They were non adjustable Marzocchi's, but I had them gutted, anodized black, and rebuilt with Matris F12 cartridges by Speeddog @ Valley Desmo Service. Got the cartridges from a former DMF sponsor.

I plan to list every part and every vendor at the finale of this build. Motowheels and Ca-Cycleworks were key players.

hahaha I just bumble around and talk myself up!
Looks like I'll have to pick my game up but, this bike will be epic! :)

I was looking at the Matris cartridge for a semi affordable fork upgrade what made you go for them?

Hiya Will

As with everything else, I spent an absurd amount of time scouring forums, translating Italian, reading as many anecdotal tales as I could...one of the forum members, "Monstermash" uses and swears by them, as does Jason @ Dept of Suspension, he has recommended them over Ohlins in the past. The internals are exceptionally well made; the body, cartridge cylinder, pumping rod and pistons are all machined from 7075 billet and hard anodized. It's just a gorgeous product and I can't wait to see how this bike rides between the Bitubo shock in the rear and the Matris setup upfront.

Almost all of my parts were purchased from DMF sponsors. Bellissimoto was a sponsor at the time when I purchased the Carrozzeria wheels, Matris cartridges, Bitubo shock, STM reservoirs and Brembo RCS masters. California Cycleworks provided the Keihin FCR41 kit, Exactfit coils, belts, lightweight sprockets, and JE 94mm pistons. Motowheels provided the carbon headlight bucket, CNC fabrication battery box, rear caliper & master cylinder, billet steering stem nut, and Nichols flywheel. Monsterparts provided the Ducabike slave cylinder, gas cap, and frame plugs.

In most cases their prices were either the best, or were close enough that the personal service more than made up for the difference. There are some parts however that a significant amount of cash can be saved buying elsewhere, and in those cases I'll always be candid with my fellow hard working mod junkies.  [thumbsup]

Blimey you've pumped some cash into this build  :o

As I said, I was looking at the matris cartridge but just couldn't find the confidence in them, I think you've just changed that.

Ohlins was always a front runner but is it really needed for a road bike and something different adds personality.

I'm really enjoying this build

Thank you! :)

And btw, feel free to get your own IMA clipons...i was being tongue in cheek when I jokingly told you not to. But keep in mind they will interfere with your U bracket.

I don't think any of our current sponsors deal with Matris anymore. If you'd like a recommendation I'd say you should talk to PJ or Paige @ PJ's parts. But I don't think you're in the USA...so it's a moot point.

If you decide you want to contact Patrick about a set of those clip ons lemme know and I'll PM you his contact info.

Ha thanks, I thought as much!

The headlight I have is bottom mounted from the two bolt holes where the u bracket fixes to the bottom triple so I've done away with the u bracket all together. I'm still undecided about triple clamps as I was looking at taking forks from a 999 which are larger diameter. But now the matris is an option thing might change!

Thanks for the info, I'll let you know what happens

In the mean time..... More pics!  [popcorn]

 [thumbsup]

 [popcorn]

This came along at an excellent price and I decided my M944 deserved it. 😀 anyone want a brand new clear Moto dynamic knock off fo' cheap?


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 [thumbsup]

There will be pictures of what looks like an actual motorcycle soon...  ;D

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hahaha. surprised you haven't got that engine in a baby capsule!! 

That's a good thing. [thumbsup]

Dafuq?

My new alloy swingarm end caps are a completely diff shade of gold. It doesn't look right. Is this common? Anyone ever seen this? Inconceivable and unacceptable.

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I've seen a 94 and 95 with the same. Don't know why.

This picture doesn't even illustrate the difference properly. They are WAY different. One on right looks good and the left one sucks. The anodizing on that one is also all blotchy and blown out like an amateur tattoo.

One of mine is more blotchy. They are different parts for sure, L and R. It's annoying. The more faded one got blotchy on mine.

Don't forget carb rubbers! Those are done. Mine gave up the ghost at 26k/14 years old & cost $40 each new to replace.

I take back my; "pictures of what looks like a...soon" comment. It's stupid cold in OH, I attempted to dick with the bike in my unheated garage and lasted all of 20 minutes. I'm going back to work.

AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hey, did you know you have a Ducati?

:-)

I've had bikes with different shades of red on different fairing panels.  Not by much, but enough to notice. 

All on the mid 90s bikes.  My 600ss had slightly different reds on the two side panels.

Finally finished my chromoly and carbon fiber oil cooler bracket. It's def not in the realm of awesome as Monsta's but I'm happy enough with it.

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The plain cap screws are just temporary of course.

looks ok...   [thumbsup]
you make that? gunna paint it?

I drew it up and a buddy cut and welded it. I'm gonna powder coat the steel.

That looks bad ass. I dig it. But, if you hold it up by the valve cover does it have much flex ? That's the only thing that bothers me about CF in an application like that. It's only as strong as the resin that bonds the fibers. After too much flex for too long, it'll just be a floppy piece of carbon cloth.

Hmmm...there isn't really any flex in the CF. And where those 3 button head screws are mounting the steel to the CF is 1/8th foam rubber for additional vibration damping on top of what the 2 sandwich mounts provide. But you have my attention with that comment for sure...I think I'm going to add 2 sleeve bearings/top hat bushings along with rubber grommets where the CF mounts to the valve cover for extra peace of mind. I don't like how I can't properly torque those 2 screws the way it is right now anyway and it should solve that problem. I'm actually liking this bracket less and less the more I look at it and and type about it lol...just may have to go back to the drawing board on this one. 😕

I gotta say...this particular area of the build is really beginning to be a frustrating and absurd amount of time and $$$. Ducati Performance made a set of finned billet valve covers about 14 years ago for the M600 and 750, and one of the kits came with an oil cooler bracket. Would be nice if I could just find that.

Find two and send me one. Thanks.

Looks good and different from everything else I've seen. Why not?

you mean this? (clicky)

(https://www.ducatiparts-online.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/Screen%20shot%202011-08-09%20at%2010.45.42.jpg) (http://www.ducatiparts-online.com/forum/topic/237-web-shop-ducati-monster-performance-valve-cover-kit/)

or in black and cheap cheap!

https://www.ducatiparts-online.com/content/ducati-performance-valve-cover-kit-monster-600 (https://www.ducatiparts-online.com/content/ducati-performance-valve-cover-kit-monster-600)

Neither of those look like they can be bought...they are just there to tease...like that German site filled with NOS Roadracing parts  [drool]

Remember that the stiffness of the lines will also provide a bit support. I like what you have made and I think it will hold up just fine.

just read threw all of this thread. Very awsome dude. epic build. awsome attention to detail.


looking forward to seeing it done. :)


Jb

I also am looking forward to seeing it done.  It will save me a few clicks a day when it is.

^welcome back [thumbsup]

Read his post again ;)

Get off the road and back in the shed!! ;D ;D ;D

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So shiney!!! And the end is so near. Awesome work mate!

Mint!

Nope, it's horrible. You should sell it to me and start all over.

 [bacon]  [bacon]  [bacon]  [bacon]  [bacon]  [bacon]
 [beer]
 [beer]
 [beer]

That's pretty bad ass, what tail light is that ?

wow.


I only wish there was a non plastic option for the oem tank latch. Never liked that thing...

(yes, I'm trying to make you open your wallet again)

The later aluminum latches fit...

I like those Brombo masters too.

No hand grenade decal?  Seriously, lookin good [thumbsup]

Heh, I actually chose that latch because it was NOS, I wanted as many new parts as possible, and I honestly felt it looked better than the metal ones at the time. I don't like how the metal ones are almost always covered in hairline scratches but I hadn't thought of something as easy as simply polishing it [roll]. I do have an extra, I think I'll polish it up and compare the 2 again.

Still quite a bit of work to do as you can see, and since I've been back I'm trying to be a better husband and Dad which means less time on the moto. RH rearsets/rear brake/bleed, cut/install/align chain (fked up my screw type master link and am awaiting a new one), finish wiring everything up and do my best to clean up this hideous harness (should have gotten an M-Unit 😠) and lastly, and most importantly, the fuel plumbing and carb tuning. Hoping the recommendations Koko gave me will get me in the ballpark enough to ride and not have to obsess over it too much for now. The Speedhut dash and IMA triple along with a purty square of carbon fiber are at my machinist buddies place getting a nice bracket fabricated, should be ready next week. He's also turning down a beautiful pair of NOS billet exhaust end caps from a Termi  MH900 system to fit my Roadracing exhaust.

Not many ppl responded when I posted a photo of my custom Speedhut dash, and while it may look a bit "meh" in photos...I can assure you it is absolutely PERFECT for this bike...can't wait to see it mounted...you will agree. 😊

It make the beast with two backsing SNOWED here in Cleveland the last 2 days which is absurd even for our standards...but it actually makes me feel better about my bike still not being ready.

Oh and the tail light is a Vizi-Tec Hsi, and the master cylinders are genuine Brembo, NOT Brombo  [laugh]. The light is another thing I'm anxious about...can't wait to test it, and with the big bulky external power supply it comes with currently in an awkward state under the seat I need to figure out a better mounting solution. Anyone else have a VT and care to share how they set it up? StopInTime?

Also: honest feedback about the Pirelli sponsor decals plz. :) they are genuine and a nice quality vinyl for what it's worth but I can't decide if I think they're tacky for this bike or not. Radical always used them on their builds which always looked good to me and is where I got the idea. So are they good/bad/or neutral?

IMO, ditch the decal.  The decals on your old bike worked, not so much on this shiny, classy build.

wow

Agreed! Decal looks shit/cheap on this polish build. Ditch it for sure...

Wow again!!  [clap]

As for the decal, You must have liked it or you would not have considered it. Keep it, your opinion is the only one that matters....except mine.  ;)

bugger me!!    [thumbsup]  [thumbsup]

year ditch the pirelli sticker...  cheapens it!


I think you should have used the Cagiva font on the tank...  that was only used on about 3  years of monsters of which yours is one! An exclusive club!

Well thats my opinion... and everyone is entitled to my opinion!    ;D

Billet end caps before and after being turned down in a lathe for my Roadracing exhaust:

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Oh, I don't have any problem when it comes to insecurity over my own opinions and tastes ;D. But the decal is something I was truly on the fence over so I thought I'd kick it out there. Same thing with the brake hose choice I need to make since I've decided I can't live with these sillymake the beast with two backs too-long ones. Go bold with red or gold, or safe with black/clear/or smoke/titanium. Just fun to get another opinion, especially with the amount of talent on this board.

Good luck  [laugh]  Next, you're going to say "it's done"?  [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]



My driver box lives with the regulator and Scorpio alarm under the seat in an unholy mess of strips and wire. Too ugly to photograph.


The area between hoop and shock needs rearsets and maybe a small hugger, in order to not be emptier than the wheel/seat area.

The exhaust will probably be sweet  [thumbsup]

No yellow sticker, please.

Black tank latch, please.

 [popcorn]

Can't wait for the vid.  [clap]

Gotta say, I love the look with no dash (even though you are putting one on later). Also the matching gold gas cap and swing arm caps is a nice touch.

Good work man! I love it.

Ditch the sticker. Too many nice parts for such tomfoolery.

Sometime's when things look like shit, its better to highlight them rather than hide them....

Simply awesome  [clap]

So clean, spot on, can't wait to see the finished result  [bow_down]

Interesting. What do you mean exactly, Monsta?

I will +1 Monsta for his design observation, but it's fine line between highlight and disturb.

Maybe an example could be brake lines sticking out... good with a little bling, but too much with red... unless red accents are repeated elsewhere.

Another example - I just had to find a way to hold wires away from the vertical cylinder, left side. Zip tie looked worse than a rubber strap (as used other places on the bike) even though the rubber strap is much wider.

Polish?  I thought he was American

Haha. He's close tho. I am a Slavic Jew.

Stopintime got exactly what I meant...  and yeah, brake lines are a perfect example.
you could say master cylinder reservoir's  and engine breathers are the same...

But I don't find reservoirs or brake lines to be unappealing to the eye. I actually wish I'd gone with the plastic pee cups. They sorta grew on me. My STM reservoirs could be an example of over doing the being on what is supposed to be a simple functional part.

Have you seen the new pee cups? Smoked, shiny see through plastic, but traditional shape  [thumbsup]

Yep, I think those were available in Europe before here in the U.S. Not sure if they're available at all here yet but they're pretty cool. Would look nice and classy with a set of billet Oberon lids. Anyone wanna buy my STM reservoirs? :P j/k...I hunted those bad boys for months before landing a set in black.

I think they are factory parts on the M1200....  maybe other bikes....

I'm in no particular rush right now as my machinist still has my exhaust and dash, and something a little interesting dawned on me while I was fiddling around the garage. I have absolutely no idea how much time I have in this build, how I'd estimate it if I had to do it all over with all the parts in boxes in front of me. Most days I go in the garage, turn on my mp3 player, and dick around for anywhere from 2-9 hours and a good chunk of that is zoning out, walking around the bike, staring at it..looking for lost tools, taking something apart I'd already assembled to either re-do it or get it out of the way of something else I need to do..running out to buy a tool I don't have, etc. And some things like routing the loom and fuel lines and rejetting the carbs I am purposely deliberate and can make 2 days of it, just not being in a hurry and wanting it to be perfect. I wouldn't be surprised if I had well over 100 hours in this thing. And the confidence I now have, starting with a bare frame, engine, and boxes of parts halfway up the wall and 2 dozen bins full of stainless hardware is priceless. Used to be I'd want to call a friend or pay someone any time something went wrong no matter how simple and now I feel like I could strip the thing down to the motor and reassemble on the side of the road. It's a pretty cool feeling.

All I did today was wire up the TPO kickstand bypass switch and make clamps for the vacuum and fuel hoses with my Clamptite  (fantastic tool btw). Now the bike is ready to start and idle as it should have come from the factory; in neutral on the sidestand, and cut off if put in gear. (Been riding over 20 years and I still take off with the side stand down.  [roll] )

Time adds up when you're trying to get something just right and it takes 3 or 4 tries of little variations to get something just right.

Its great to know your bike like the back of your hand.

Progress....

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Installing the exhaust was possibly the most miserable experience yet. My fingers and knuckles are destroyed and on top of it all I realized too late I'd forgotten my exhaust gaskets. And now my kickstand doesn't fit properly. I sure as hell hope those gaskets aren't mandatory because I do NOT want to do that again. :(

My carbon dash bracket turned out awesome :)

Yes is did. Good on ya for that one, matches the headlight bucket nicely. That sprocket cover is sweet too, simple.

I don't know about your header, but I did the same with my spark header and it was leak city.

I put together my 750 exhaust with no gaskets and it was fine. Maybe I'll be able to kinda slide the headers back and stick em in there. I'm telling you this exhaust was a straight up mothermake the beast with two backser to install and I don't wanna start over. It sucked bad.

Nope, stands out way too much. Your build though. We already discussed that headlight.  ;)

I really dig the speedo/tach, that thing is bad ass.

Mark

Thanks dude  [thumbsup].

I do still love the look of the classic headlight, but this TL grows on me more and more every day. Especially how it plays with my Vizi-Tec HSi. Can't wait to shoot a vid and take a proper photoshoot of the finished bike. And ride the damn thing.

How does that dash look from the side?

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I'll take better pics tomorrow. It looks fantastic from every angle

Mate lookin good! Had some catchup reading to do and she's rollin........beautiful!

I was just wondering if from the side one can see all the guts of the speedo or if there is a cap or a housing that attaches to the carbon plate.

I'd like to see it a little higher, further back, tilted towards the rider and in a carbon bucket  8)

Gotcha. There isn't anything that actually hides it, and the carbon bracket is just a flat piece with a hole. I'll snap a pic that shows it tho, IMO it's very low profile and non offensive. The entire dash us very thin and has a nice looking spin lock ring.

 With this setup I can see the way it's mounted makes sense, but if the tach was the main element I would want it looking me right in the face, like it is on my DB5R.

As low as my clip ons are, this actually does work very well. And I could have had the bracket angled but this really does work perfect and hides the wiring and brake hose clutter as well. Full spread of good pics to come...

Impossible to know that till you put it through its paces at speed, and please tell me you rubber mounted the 'dashboard '

Who the fuq called it a dash board lol

Dash, dash bracket, dashboard, mismo. Glad you rubber mounted it, would vibrate like a pregnant dog if not.

sleeve bearings and grommets, nothing fancy. I flogged the fuq out of my 750 over Cleveland potholes and throughout the Ohio Valley twisties with the OE dash bolted directly to the triple with no issues, but whatev.

Good deal

Yo Memper

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Haven't hooked it up or cleaned the wiring up but what do you think? Once it's properly connected a thick piece of black heatshrink and a zip tie should look the business.

Im rendered speechless, "looks fantastic from every angle" Let me get back to you on that.  :P

The snarl of wires obviously isn't going to remain like that. I'm happy with it, especially since not too many people are going to be on their knees looking up at it.

I'm gonna likely get banned pretty soon for taking your incessant baiting. But it's going to be worth it. For now though, gtfo my thread. I'd rather finish the bike before you get me booted. Thx.

Some "guy" just PM'd me to say I can't take "constructive" criticism. Because I'm sure that's what it was, lol. The bike isn't finished but I'll eat some crow for now, posting that crappy looking pic. Being the first time I've ever really built anything and all, and not paying someone else to build my entire bike like the guy doing the "constructive" criticising, I certainly have a lot to learn and improve on.

A PM is just that...personal.

We don't want to hear about it.

I see it this way...

You're building a bike that, so far, looks/sounds like it belongs 'up there' with some of the finest.

Such a project will attract a lot of attention and ditto opinions.

Willingly or not, setting the bar so high might make us, the spectators, think it's our privilege to voice anything...

I'm sorry if I went too far - I'm impressed and want the end result to be 'perfect'  8) According to me, of course  ;D

 I wish there was a "like" button we could just click on. I think to OP is doing a great job!

Well that's too flattering, Lars . And that's what I'd consider "constructive criticism"; i.e a critique that contains a suggestion, in the spirit of improvement, non oppositional, well reasoned...Etc. I have zero problem with any of that and I actually appreciate it.

But no one should be expected to accept being insulted. Biting my make the beast with two backsing tongue HARD so I can finish this thread.

I think the dash looks good. I thought it was going to be bulky. 

Its like a  modern take on a Vincent imo. A feature, but more subtle.

This is a build I can relate to alot. It involves doing it yourself, making mistakes, and at times fumbling through until its done right, and learning alot on the way.

Aspects that aren't to my taste dont draw a critique. Different strokes for different blokes.

In other news...it's alive.  [evil]

https://youtu.be/ZSkeAPZ_3bY (https://youtu.be/ZSkeAPZ_3bY)

www.youtu.be/ZSkeAPZ_3bY (http://)

Ooops...having some technical difficulty trying to change it to a "public" video  [roll]

Tease

It should work now  ;D

https://youtu.be/ZSkeAPZ_3bY (https://youtu.be/ZSkeAPZ_3bY)

http://youtu.be/ZSkeAPZ_3bY (http://youtu.be/ZSkeAPZ_3bY)

Sound freaking awesome!

Those pipes are my fav they are stunning

Excellent build so far, defiantly up with the best

 [thumbsup]
 [clap]
 [drool]

Aw shucks, thanks dudes! But remember I love the constructive criticism and it's an honor to receive it from such a talented lot, so don't get me wrong. My only beef in this life is with hypocrites and frauds  :-*.  Most of this crap just bolted on and I spent months neglecting my family to earn the cash to buy it... no pride in that. I have good taste that's about it :P (and a hacksaw for the tail chop). Very cool and humbling that I've put something together a several of you like, still lots of work to be done. This dash is obviously a bigger challenge than I thought and I'm sure my carbs need tweaked...

Glad its running. That loom threw a curved ball for sure.
Any FCR tweaking will probably be needle position and idle mixture.

Yea!  Great job!

This is a great write up if you haven't already seen it:
http://www.factorypro.com/tech/tech_tuning_procedures/tuning_FCR_Burns,Pat.html (http://www.factorypro.com/tech/tech_tuning_procedures/tuning_FCR_Burns,Pat.html)

Burns is the man.

badass.
[thumbsup]

sounds a lot different w/ the road racing exhaust.

Curious, why do you call it a M944SS (the SS part?)  Call it whatever ya want, its yours. Least its not a woman's name  :)   

Glad it worked out w/ Chris Birkle/ Hippie @ Racing Sport Services (RSS) in Braselton, Ga. His work rocks.

 [popcorn]
Ridden it yet?

No....I'm close tho. Spent the last 2 days scrambling around having a wheel spacer made. Also just closed on a new house and got the keys a week ago...I had a pretty long "honey do list" that she thinks I've been working on instead of the bike (lol) but that's caught up to me so I've had to work long days on the house. It's coming...hours/days now.

good work mate...
look forward to seeing the finished product.    [thumbsup]

The most important part of the build has arrived.

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Mah stacks arrived. :D these suckers should flow some! Just gotta send em off to my anodizer to be made RED

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should powdercoat them black with the intake runners. just sayin  [bacon]

Im going to paint the intakes matte black and have the stacks anodized either black or red. Don't wanna coat em, just seems like a bad idea to change the shape given how much time and money went into engineering these with a flow bench and whatnot. I'm not even sure if an acid bath to remove the orange would result in etching = undesirable effects.

I've forgotten, what's your air situation again? Air box? Pods?

Im going to have those v stacks machined down to about 90mm (the flanges) and fit some tapered pod filters. They're over 100 mm and don't quite fit right now.

(http://www.knfilters.com/images/l/RU-2990.jpg)

Something like this is kinda intriguing too, with a dual flange. Would almost be like a 4 sided open air box..

(http://www.knfilters.com/images/l/RD-3200.JPG)

I'd considered getting one out of a summit racing catalog that was a dual one but had the taper like the first one. Decided the airbox must be like that for a reason so decided to buy a guitar instead of all that stuff.

Lol, but you see the obvious inconsistencies with that logic! But you are correct I think...airbox plus v stacks is almost certainly the best option at least for the carby bikes. Koko pointed out something tho; all of the aftermarket induction kits like Beast, MW etc use tapered filters, as does this from Cosentino. Maybe with their flow benches they've determined this calms and funnels the turbulent air most effectively. In my case I need to do something custom because they just won't fit otherwise. I also want to achieve a personal goal of getting pods to work and excel on a carbed Monster. Hopefully these stacks are the ticket.

do you know who makes one like this for the FCRs?

You'd have to measure the hole spacing and troll the K&N site...there are a couple that may work but the height was an issue with my stacks.

I've done that years back.  Even asked them to make one.

Seems a lower fatter one would work well

  ? Running? Pics?

He's no longer here.

that's why I haven't been able to locate him then . . .

What do you mean? He left the DMF?

Went over to the dark side. :(

And the dark side is.............?

The other place. I'll leave it at that and speak of this matter no more.

Just thought I would share, I keep in touch with Eli in real life, and he thought some of you folks would like to see how it turned out.

the bike is complete...and it runs really great. I think he is pretty happy with the way it turned out also.

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enjoy.

thanks

Jb

Nice work Eli

Pass on my regards  [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

I also keep in touch with Eli. We have swapped several parts. Great guy IMO.

Beautiful Monster too!

r8

Awesome build! This guy was my main inspiration for my own build its a shame I can't swap notes with him now  [thumbsdown] send my congratulations on his lovely project!